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Re: CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2020, 05:08:10 pm »
You have consistently said there was no evidence of cheating

I haven't said that, but no hard evidence has been shown... and don't you think if Trump's legal team had some it would be presented? There were clearly anomalies... without a doubt, they should be investigated, and if fraud is found, perpetrators should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and votes should be thrown out if they're fraudulent. But i've seen no hard evidence so far, and neither has the courts from what I've seen.

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Re: CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2020, 05:09:41 pm »
All that needs to be done is enough doubt generated for 31 Biden electors be withheld. GA is 16. 15 more to go.

There is plenty of evidence - the question s/b is there enough courage.

You don't get it.

You have to prove intentional fraud ACROSS states to have enough to overturn the election.


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« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2020, 05:12:19 pm »
You don't get it.

You have to prove intentional fraud ACROSS states to have enough to overturn the election.


State legislatures have to have proof of fraud across states to withhold their own electors?

I guess I don't get it.
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Re: CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2020, 05:15:48 pm »
No, I have said all the way along that there was cheating, and i did indeed back the idea of massive organized cheating - but it has to be proven. ALL of it proven and connected.

*JUST GEORGIA* Say you prove is all the way up to the state elections board. Say you prove collusion all the way up. How many electors does Georgia own? Are they alone enough to overturn the election?

No, they are not. So precinct captains and workers may go to jail... Hell even the election board and administration might go to jail... And hooray for that. But it ain't enough to over turn the election.

To say *JUST GEORGIA* is presenting just another version of "not enough to matter."  One would have to ignore the other states where solid evidence of fraud is being revealed.

Doesn't require running the table, but I think there will be enough states with irreparable ballot fraud.
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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2020, 05:18:44 pm »

State legislatures have to have proof of fraud across states to withhold their own electors?

I guess I don't get it.

Sure they can. But getting multiple states to do that at once is an insane hail mary.
Hell, getting the Scotus to call it is hail-mary enough.
Your talking about overturning three to five state elections. That's the very hard way, and you might as well shoot at the moon.

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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2020, 05:21:43 pm »
I'm just going to wait to see what happens.

I have no control of the situation and where this goes could be anywhere.

Just one major breach and the rest may follow.

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Re: CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2020, 05:21:56 pm »
I haven't said that, but no hard evidence has been shown... and don't you think if Trump's legal team had some it would be presented? There were clearly anomalies... without a doubt, they should be investigated, and if fraud is found, perpetrators should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, and votes should be thrown out if they're fraudulent. But i've seen no hard evidence so far, and neither has the courts from what I've seen.

All you are doing in this post is proving that you will never see "hard evidence" because you refuse to look.  The longer you cover your eyes and stop up your ears, the more obvious it becomes you just want the Bad Orange Man out, even if means a total socialist takeover of the country.

A 21st Century version of "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2020, 05:23:28 pm »
To say *JUST GEORGIA* is presenting just another version of "not enough to matter."  One would have to ignore the other states where solid evidence of fraud is being revealed.

Doesn't require running the table, but I think there will be enough states with irreparable ballot fraud.

Until you can prove intentional collusion across state lines you cannot prove enough to overturn the election. Each states stands alone. Each state without enough to overturn the election. You have to prove it across enough jurisdictions to tie them TOGETHER to get enough electors in play to overturn.

Not Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
But Georgia AND Michigan AND Pennsylvania... Together.

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Re: CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2020, 05:29:39 pm »
Until you can prove intentional collusion across state lines you cannot prove enough to overturn the election. Each states stands alone. Each state without enough to overturn the election. You have to prove it across enough jurisdictions to tie them TOGETHER to get enough electors in play to overturn.

Not Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
But Georgia AND Michigan AND Pennsylvania... Together.

Why is collusion among more than one state necessary?  It's quite possible the only collusion is a shared desire to get Bad Orange Man out of the White House by any means necessary.  It appears the goalposts are mobile. 
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« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2020, 05:32:34 pm »
Why is collusion among more than one state necessary?  It's quite possible the only collusion is a shared desire to get Bad Orange Man out of the White House by any means necessary.  It appears the goalposts are mobile.

There is circumstantial evidence of a conspiracy among states. Timing, methods and statistical patterns of fraud in the key states are very similar.

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« Reply #60 on: December 04, 2020, 05:34:12 pm »
Why is collusion among more than one state necessary?  It's quite possible the only collusion is a shared desire to get Bad Orange Man out of the White House by any means necessary.  It appears the goalposts are mobile.

Just one fraud wall breached with serious charges filed may get some seriously running for the exits.

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« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2020, 05:38:52 pm »
All you are doing in this post is proving that you will never see "hard evidence" because you refuse to look.  The longer you cover your eyes and stop up your ears, the more obvious it becomes you just want the Bad Orange Man out, even if means a total socialist takeover of the country.

A 21st Century version of "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."

 :shrug:

Anyway, it's not up to me, it's up to the legal system and state legislatures. IMO Trump's chances are about 1%, to  pick a good even number

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« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2020, 05:39:41 pm »
Why is collusion among more than one state necessary?  It's quite possible the only collusion is a shared desire to get Bad Orange Man out of the White House by any means necessary.  It appears the goalposts are mobile.

Interior to a state (which is its own sovereign self) prosecutions and convictions will ensue... And ballots will be negated as they try to fix it for themselves. The remedy within each state is to nullify their own election, which tosses that state to its legislatures to select electors - Which has nothing at all to do with the other respective states... So the electors are remedied and it is not enough to overturn the election. Unless you can pull that off in 3 to 5 states (or something like that), which is a crazy long play.

Tie enough states together in collusion, like Dominion does... Those state elections all being under the control of a single entity... That being the case, ALL the states effected by the fraud are tied together, which is certainly enough electors to overthrow the election... Which puts it in the scotus, the entire election being nullified, and all states respectively fall back to their legislatures on the order of the SCOTUS to pick their electors. And the physical election goes forward one way or another.


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Re: CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2020, 05:39:52 pm »
Just one fraud wall breached with serious charges filed may get some seriously running for the exits.

One of the fraudsters in the Fulton County scheme on video has been identified.  Probably the biggest fraudster...the black "woman with the blond braids."  She's the one that ordered everybody out of the room because of the pipe leak, and has been captured on the video pulling pre-positioned suitcases full of ballots from under the tables.
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« Reply #64 on: December 04, 2020, 05:41:14 pm »
:shrug:

Anyway, it's not up to me, it's up to the legal system and state legislatures. IMO Trump's chances are about 1%, to  pick a good even number

That correlates to the 99% chance you will declare Trump cheated to win if he pulls it out.   :shrug:
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Re: CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
« Reply #65 on: December 04, 2020, 05:42:00 pm »
Interior to a state (which is its own sovereign self) prosecutions and convictions will ensue... And ballots will be negated as they try to fix it for themselves. The remedy within each state is to nullify their own election, which tosses that state to its legislatures to select electors - Which has nothing at all to do with the other respective states... So the electors are remedied and it is not enough to overturn the election. Unless you can pull that off in 3 to 5 states (or something like that), which is a crazy long play.

Tie enough states together in collusion, like Dominion does... Those state elections all being under the control of a single entity... That being the case, ALL the states effected by the fraud are tied together, which is certainly enough electors to overthrow the election... Which puts it in the scotus, the entire election being nullified, and all states respectively fall back to their legislatures on the order of the SCOTUS to pick their electors. And the physical election goes forward one way or another.

I don't think we really disagree on what it's going to take.  :beer:
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« Reply #66 on: December 04, 2020, 05:43:54 pm »
Just one fraud wall breached with serious charges filed may get some seriously running for the exits.

It's too bad the Dominion thing looks to be vaporware... That would have been such a neat play.

Without it, it's a hat trick, and a near impossibility.

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« Reply #67 on: December 04, 2020, 05:44:42 pm »
Yeah what happened to the Kracken?

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« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2020, 05:46:31 pm »
That correlates to the 99% chance you will declare Trump cheated to win if he pulls it out.   :shrug:

No it'll mean that he convinced enough judges, and lawmakers that there was fraud and it was enough to give him the presidency. But that will piss the other side off something pretty awful, so I doubt you'd hear what I say.

Anyway the certification date is in 4 days right? Clock is ticking...

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« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2020, 05:49:36 pm »
I don't think we really disagree on what it's going to take.  :beer:

If you're somewhere around 'act of God', then yeah. This is a long, long stretch. And I really don't think folks get it.

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« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2020, 05:53:20 pm »
Yeah what happened to the Kracken?

Consensus around here seems that was given up on, maybe a week ago. Plenty of widespread examples of fraud, but like a dripping faucet...  can they all be proven cumulatively that Biden stole it?  Doubtful at this point.
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« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2020, 05:54:39 pm »
No it'll mean that he convinced enough judges, and lawmakers that there was fraud and it was enough to give him the presidency. But that will piss the other side off something pretty awful, so I doubt you'd hear what I say.

Anyway the certification date is in 4 days right? Clock is ticking...

Yes, it is.  The "Safe Harbor" date is rapidly approaching. 
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« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2020, 06:00:12 pm »
Yeah what happened to the Kracken?

Pining for the fjords, it seems.   :shrug: :whistle:

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Re: CIA Director Gina Haspel Arrested For Treason
« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2020, 10:24:41 pm »
CIA: Director Haspel 'Is Alive and Well'

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cia-central-intelligence-agency-gina-haspel-conspiracy/2020/12/04/id/1000092/

That people buy into that sort of crap on nothing but rumor is an embarrassment.