Are the people ready to rise?

[skeeter]

OMG, Roamer.  You're starting to sound like an autistic political savant. Look around you.  Where the hell are your pristine conservatives in the fight raging right now? The sanctity of the legal vote --- the most important root of our Constitutional Republic --- is being demolished before their very eyes and every political conservative in Washington is silent or playing with zoom.  Not one of them is lifting a polished fingernail to stop this, and yet you think they're going to battle states and individuals to wean them from the federal teat.   

You've been lied to, Roamer;  conservative politician is an oxymoron.  I suggest you come up a new plan to save this nation from the Marxist tsunami about to hit our shores because your conservative saviors will have headed for the hills.

Conservative is a mindset, a way of looking at life, it is not a political party. I don't need my politicians to be conservative, although I would prefer it.

My one and only DEMAND is they be loyal to America and the Constitution. We can always hammer the details out.

Its the damn voters who need to be conservative.

[libertybele]

Conservative is a mindset, a way of looking at life, it is not a political party. I don't need my politicians to be conservative, although I would prefer it.

My one and only DEMAND is they be loyal to America and the Constitution. We can always hammer the details out.

Its the damn voters who need to be conservative.

Agreed. Conservatism is following and adhering to the very principles upon which this country was founded and the most important document ever created; The U.S. Constitution.

Voters should have voted for conservatism rather than the "R" next to the candidates name -- easy enough these days to do a little research.  Unfortunately there just weren't enough true conservatives actually winning and getting on the ballot. Those in the country club made sure of it.

[skeeter]

Agreed. Conservatism is following and adhering to the very principles upon which this country was founded and the most important document ever created; The U.S. Constitution.

Voters should have voted for conservatism rather than the "R" next to the candidates name -- easy enough these days to do a little research.  Unfortunately there just weren't enough true conservatives actually winning and getting on the ballot. Those in the country club made sure of it.

Politicians are blank paper the voters write on. They don't lead; they never have. They follow.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Conservative is a mindset, a way of looking at life, it is not a political party. I don't need my politicians to be conservative, although I would prefer it.

My one and only DEMAND is they be loyal to America and the Constitution. We can always hammer the details out.

Its the damn voters who need to be conservative.

Don't blame the voters @skeeter  74+ million Americans did vote for America and the Constitution and won the electoral college in a landslide.  How's this turning out?

Now the coup plotters are laughing at us salivating at the thought of what comes next and conservative leaders are hiding from us, in tacit surrender to the plotters. 

If the Marxists (and this is what they are ... they are not "liberals") are able to steal the Presidency, stealing a couple of senate seats will be done with one hand tied behind their backs. No one will prevent it.  We who voted for America and the Constitution are alone, Skeeter.  Fundamentally and profoundly politically abandoned.

Come January our defeat will be so total, so irreversible it will take a decade for us to fully grasp its scope.

[Restored]

Ain't nobody gonna do squat. A certain segment of the population is looking forward to a President with Dementia.

[libertybele]

Ain't nobody gonna do squat. A certain segment of the population is looking forward to a President with Dementia.

Actually, that's not the segment of the population that needs to do something.

[Cyber Liberty]

Lockdown - The Dark Side of History. Are we Doomed to Repeat it?


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Santayana once said those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.  The Corollary:  Those who learned from History are still doomed to repeat it because we're dragged to Hell by stupid people who can't or won't learn.

[Victoria33]

 

[roamer_1]

OMG, Roamer.  You're starting to sound like an autistic political savant. Look around you.  Where the hell are your pristine conservatives in the fight raging right now? The sanctity of the legal vote --- the most important root of our Constitutional Republic --- is being demolished before their very eyes and every political conservative in Washington is silent or playing with zoom.  Not one of them is lifting a polished fingernail to stop this, and yet you think they're going to battle states and individuals to wean them from the federal teat.   

You've been lied to, Roamer;  conservative politician is an oxymoron.  I suggest you come up a new plan to save this nation from the Marxist tsunami about to hit our shores because your conservative saviors will have headed for the hills.

@Right_in_Virginia

Now RiV, honestly tell me which of the Conservatives have not been sullied by your movement... And now you want their help?  Might have done well to think that through...

[roamer_1]

Politicians are blank paper the voters write on. They don't lead; they never have. They follow.

That is why one looks for statesmen and leaves politicians behind.

[skeeter]

Don't blame the voters @skeeter  74+ million Americans did vote for America and the Constitution and won the electoral college in a landslide.  How's this turning out?

Now the coup plotters are laughing at us salivating at the thought of what comes next and conservative leaders are hiding from us, in tacit surrender to the plotters. 

If the Marxists (and this is what they are ... they are not "liberals") are able to steal the Presidency, stealing a couple of senate seats will be done with one hand tied behind their backs. No one will prevent it.  We who voted for America and the Constitution are alone, Skeeter.  Fundamentally and profoundly politically abandoned.

Come January our defeat will be so total, so irreversible it will take a decade for us to fully grasp its scope.

30 years ago Biden campaign would’ve barely registered, the election would’ve been a 50 state sweep.

The electorate has changed - a large percentage is more dependent, more hateful, more ignorant than ever. The 74 million you mention are the remnant of what we used to look like as a people, when our differences weren’t like night and day.

You are right about what’s coming. Short of a miracle we are in for some really hard times and those cheering Biden are totally oblivious to what they’ve brought on.

[libertybele]

30 years ago Biden campaign would’ve barely registered, the election would’ve been a 50 state sweep.

The electorate has changed - a large percentage is more dependent, more hateful, more ignorant than ever. The 74 million you mention are the remnant of what we used to look like.

You are right about what’s coming. Short of a miracle we are in for some really hard times and those cheering Biden are totally oblivious to what they’ve brought on.

That's what is so troubling...that so many voted for Biden (enough at least for them to steal the election). I would hope that the Independents did research and it wasn't just an anti-Trump vote.  Ignorance and hatred, yes, I agree; and that has been orchestrated by the leftists for years.

If you haven't gotten a chance to see "Hillary's America" by Dinesh D'Souza it is very much worth watching and he absolutely predicted very accurately what is happening right now to our country in that movie. 


www.youtube.com/watch?v=98DfrVjxCQg

[skeeter]

That is why one looks for statesmen and leaves politicians behind.

I dont want to be led by a ‘statesman’. I want my elected representative to honor my/our will.

[Cyber Liberty]

That is why one looks for statesmen and leaves politicians behind.

A wag's definition of "Statesman":  A dead Politician.   

[Wingnut]

Lucy.  Good lord.

[roamer_1]

I dont want to be led by a ‘statesman’. I want my elected representative to honor my/our will.

That is what a statesman would do - more or less... Providing that you knew the cut of his jib when electing him. His beliefs would drive him, not fame or fortune, or fickle popularity... His orthodoxy to his cause rendering him immune to such things.

[Smokin Joe]

Don't blame the voters @skeeter  74+ million Americans did vote for America and the Constitution and won the electoral college in a landslide.  How's this turning out?

Now the coup plotters are laughing at us salivating at the thought of what comes next and conservative leaders are hiding from us, in tacit surrender to the plotters. 

If the Marxists (and this is what they are ... they are not "liberals") are able to steal the Presidency, stealing a couple of senate seats will be done with one hand tied behind their backs. No one will prevent it.  We who voted for America and the Constitution are alone, Skeeter.  Fundamentally and profoundly politically abandoned.

Come January our defeat will be so total, so irreversible it will take a decade for us to fully grasp its scope.

It will never matter how many vote for Conservative values if their vote is only counted as 7/16 of the total.

[skeeter]

That is what a statesman would do - more or less... Providing that you knew the cut of his jib when electing him. His beliefs would drive him, not fame or fortune, or fickle popularity... His orthodoxy to his cause rendering him immune to such things.

This is my point - I want MY beliefs to drive him. He’s a representative, not a messiah.

[roamer_1]

This is my point - I want MY beliefs to drive him. He’s a representative, not a messiah.

If you beliefs align with his, then what's the difference? One would think that is why you would vote *FOR* him... 

[LegalAmerican]

Whatever... 4 years and not a damn thing has changed... All gone the minute his EOs are overturned.
In the mean time, Big.gov got bigger and deeper and wider.

The only difference is if you trust the Global Marxists to run things out of the UN, or the 3rd-way socialists to run things out of international boardrooms through corporate cronyism disguised as capitalism... Both sides the very same with regard to liberty.

Now, if there was a party offering budgetary restraint, bowing to federalism and the sovereignty of the various states, and favoring in everything the dismantling of the federal behemoth... Now THAT would be a significant difference.

And I ain't got no train. Just a pickup, a horse, and a dog. If you want to join, talk to the dog. 

Not totally true.  See my list.  POTUS  has removed some agencies. Streamlined regulations.  REMOVED 2, for ever one put into action.  Things haven't gone YOUR way, so you want to throw out the baby, with the bath water. 

[LegalAmerican]

We HAVE a statesman.  TAKES NO PAY, none of the other TRUMPS either.  This is volunteer work for, we the people, and America.
LOVE OF AMERICA. 
Certainly not for fame or  fortune.  TRUMP is already a household word.  TRUMP TOWER. In fact, POTUS TRUMP has lost billions, with all the hate and boycott directed at him.  I don't know what ROAMER wants.  J.C. , BEING OUR PRESIDENT? 

[LegalAmerican]

This is my point - I want MY beliefs to drive him. He’s a representative, not a messiah.

And, THAT is what we have.  DEMON-RATS won't allow that.  MEDIA NEGATIVE 24/7 , with slander & lies.  ALL LEFT MARXIST  PROPAGANDA.

[LegalAmerican]

Santayana once said those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.  The Corollary:  Those who learned from History are still doomed to repeat it because we're dragged to Hell by stupid people who can't or won't learn.

BINGO. Guess who those are?   

[skeeter]

If you beliefs align with his, then what's the difference? One would think that is why you would vote *FOR* him... 

I don’t care if he’s a statesman. I don’t care if he behaves like a petulant child and cusses and tweets. I want him to represent me. If he says he will and follows through that is all I ask.

[sneakypete]

I don’t care if he’s a statesman. I don’t care if he behaves like a petulant child and cusses and tweets. I want him to represent me. If he says he will and follows through that is all I ask.

@skeeter

Such a simple concept,it's almost impossible to believe some people are so simple-minded they put "style" above "performance",isn't it?

Yet it is these "Leftist fellow travelers" that made this possible. Without them and their support of the RINO's and their "moderate" Dim pals,it would have never happened.