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Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« on: November 21, 2020, 10:37:16 pm »
Huge win for the Trump Team!

https://theamericanconservatives.net/latest-scoop-pennsylvania-house-approves-audit-for-2020-election/

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What is to be reported for each county and the state overall?

• For both absentee and mail-in ballots, the number of applications received, the number that were approved by the county board of elections, and the number returned by voters that were subsequently canvassed.

• The number of qualified voters who used provisional ballots.

• The number of applications for absentee ballots from people who were not registered to vote, but subsequently did submit a voter registration application in time for the election — and the same information concerning mail-in ballots.

• For each county, the date and time that the county board of elections began pre-canvassing absentee ballots and mail-in ballots.
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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 11:45:32 pm »
A step in the right direction, but...
- time is not on our side
- will "observers" from our side be present during the audit?
- can the PA house (alone) order such an audit?

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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2020, 12:44:25 am »
Of course, they approved it because they have already intermingled the bad with the good, so what happens if they find 20,000 illegal votes?  Somebody gets a sternly worded letter in their permanent file, and the bogus count stands because it's too late to see who the votes were for.
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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2020, 01:17:14 am »
Huge win for the Trump Team!
https://theamericanconservatives.net/latest-scoop-pennsylvania-house-approves-audit-for-2020-election/
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Note: I will use the term, mail ballot(s), for all mail ballots, instead of absentee, mail-in.
There are already some numbers to be compared to the numbers this audit presents

What is to be reported for each county and the state overall?
• For both absentee and mail-in ballots, the number of applications received, the number that were approved by the county board of elections, and the number returned by voters that were subsequently canvassed.

Number of applications they got - the county still has these paper applications.  Before a ballot was sent, the name/address on the application was checked to determine if this person was a legal voter and qualified for a mail ballot.

When a mail ballot comes into the courthouse, the county clerk or election's administrator, marks on the master voting list that the person has voted by mail.  That master list will be at the polling place so if this person comes in and wants to vote, the list shows the person has already voted. 

The above numbers should be the same as the audit numbers.

• The number of qualified voters who used provisional ballots.

These are paper ballots used at a polling place if the voter's name is not on that voter precinct list, and the voter insists on voting there anyway.  There are not many of these ballots and most will be rejected. The county still has these ballots.

• The number of applications for absentee ballots from people who were not registered to vote, but subsequently did submit a voter registration application in time for the election — and the same information concerning mail-in ballots.

No big deal with this - the county still has the applications and registration information.

• For each county, the date and time that the county board of elections began pre-canvassing absentee ballots and mail-in ballots.

This is simple.  There is a date set to begin evaluating mail ballots.

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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 01:43:34 am »
Huge win for the Trump Team!
https://theamericanconservatives.net/latest-scoop-pennsylvania-house-approves-audit-for-2020-election/
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Note: I will use the term, mail ballot(s), for all mail ballots, instead of absentee, mail-in.
There are already some numbers to be compared to the numbers this audit presents

What is to be reported for each county and the state overall?
• For both absentee and mail-in ballots, the number of applications received, the number that were approved by the county board of elections, and the number returned by voters that were subsequently canvassed.

Number of applications they got - the county still has these paper applications.  Before a ballot was sent, the name/address on the application was checked to determine if this person was a legal voter and qualified for a mail ballot.

When a mail ballot comes into the courthouse, the county clerk or election's administrator, marks on the master voting list that the person has voted by mail.  That master list will be at the polling place so if this person comes in and wants to vote, the list shows the person has already voted. 

The above numbers should be the same as the audit numbers.

• The number of qualified voters who used provisional ballots.

These are paper ballots used at a polling place if the voter's name is not on that voter precinct list, and the voter insists on voting there anyway.  There are not many of these ballots and most will be rejected. The county still has these ballots.

• The number of applications for absentee ballots from people who were not registered to vote, but subsequently did submit a voter registration application in time for the election — and the same information concerning mail-in ballots.

No big deal with this - the county still has the applications and registration information.

• For each county, the date and time that the county board of elections began pre-canvassing absentee ballots and mail-in ballots.

This is simple.  There is a date set to begin evaluating mail ballots.

You make good points, but it's irrelevant because the corrupt PA Dem machine ignored orders to keep ballots in question segregated.  Even if they say they can see massive fraud, it changes nothing because the only alternative to accepting the bogus result is to throw the entire election out, and the GOP in PA hasn't got the balls to name the electors themselves, or even if they do the lily-livered GOPe populating the legislature will vote for Biteme to "heal the nation."
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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2020, 02:05:46 am »
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Guess I have to go to Pennsylvania and speak to the governor.
Bob can take me as he was born and grew up in Wilkes-Barre, Penn.
I have been there twice.
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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2020, 02:11:41 am »
@Cyber Liberty

Guess I have to go to Pennsylvania and speak to the governor.
Bob can take me as he was born and grew up in Wilkes-Barre, Penn.
I have been there twice.

The Governor has no control over elections and how the Legislature would vote if ordered to do so by the SCOTUS, who will do what bureaucrats do when forcing an unappetizing decision:  Make it a choice between two lousy alternatives.  SCOTUS may say the vote tally is hopelessly messed up, so either the Legislature seats a slate, or they lose all their Electoral College votes.
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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 02:25:27 am »
The Governor has no control over elections and how the Legislature would vote if ordered to do so by the SCOTUS, who will do what bureaucrats do when forcing an unappetizing decision:  Make it a choice between two lousy alternatives.  SCOTUS may say the vote tally is hopelessly messed up, so either the Legislature seats a slate, or they lose all their Electoral College votes.

I would still speak to the governor as he is the top "Executive".  Would get the lay of the land from him and get to the people in the middle of this and get it "fixed".  I'll check  Penn. law.

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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2020, 02:40:39 am »
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PENNSYLVANIA GUIDANCE CONCERNING POLL WATCHERS AND AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVES

https://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElections/OtherServicesEvents/Documents/Poll%20Watcher%20Guidance%20Final%2010-6-2020.pdf

From the sworn Affidavits filed by lots people working the election at various stages, many of those laws were not observed.  At all.  We already know they ignored Alito's order from the SCOTUS to segregate and not count ballots received after the 8PM, 11/3 deadline for voting.  They don't care, they think (possibly with good reason) they won't get punished for it.

This outlaw behavior occurs in all walks of life, and all endeavors.  It's revolting and makes us want to barricade ourselves in our Castle and shut them all out.  It's fortuitous we got the retirement house when we did.
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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2020, 02:55:49 am »
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AS OF YESTERDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2020:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pennsylvania-governor-confident-of-biden-win-as-house-republicans-call-for-election-audit/ar-BB1bdMFb?ocid=uxbndlbing

Consider the rest in "quotes":

Pennsylvania Governor Confident of Biden Win as House Republicans Call for Election Audit

Pennsylvania's House of Representatives voted to allow an audit of the presidential election results to be performed by a state committee on Friday. Some Democrats have criticized the audit and expressed the opinion that President-elect Joe Biden will be ultimately be declared the election winner.

Sponsored by House Republicans, the audit is expected to be conducted by the Legislative Budget and Finance Committee and completed by February. Election results in Pennsylvania have been challenged by the legal team of President Donald Trump, who has alleged without evidence that widespread voting fraud contributed to a projected Biden victory. Trump has yet to concede to Biden and has claimed several times that he is the true winner of the election.

According to the text of House Resolution 1100, the audit is necessary because "Pennsylvania citizens have questioned the process by which the 2020 general election has been conducted, regardless of which candidate or party may prevail."

The document alleges that a "litany of inconsistencies" occurred during the election because of decisions made by federal and state courts including prohibiting signature requirements for mail-in voting and "counties not following the United States Supreme Court ruling requiring ballots received after election day to be segregated."

Resolution sponsor, Republican Representative Jesse Topper said the audit was "about our process moving forward and through these unprecedented times we conducted in a global pandemic. We made changes to the election law," according to WFMZ.

In a Thursday statement, Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf described the audit as "unnecessary and duplicative," noting that the Legislative Budget Finance Committee tasked with completing the audit has "no expertise or role in election administration."

"Instead of the House Republicans interfering in an existing and trustworthy audit process, especially when they were on the ballot, they should allow the non-partisan experts to do their job," Wolf wrote. "That is the best way to ensure the public can have faith in the audit results."

Newsweek reached out to the Pennsylvania Democratic Party for comment.

Pennsylvania is expected to certify its ballots on Monday. Trump's campaign has filed suit to prevent the certification from occurring in order to investigate claims of election manipulation. During a Thursday press conference, Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani alleged that 682,770 ballots "were cast, put in, and they weren't inspected which renders them ballots that are null and void, cannot be counted, have to be removed from the vote." Giuliani presented no clear evidence to back up his allegations.

Pennsylvania Lieutenant Governor John Fetterman told CNN's Erin Burnett on Friday that regardless of how Trump attempts to alter the results of Pennsylvania's election, the "facts are on our side."

"The bottom line is Biden is the President-Elect, and he's up over 83,000 votes," Fetterman said. "Again, unless there's some enchanted little village of 90,000 Trump voters that we may have missed over the last two weeks since the election, you know, this is ball game in Pennsylvania. And, again, it's ball game and we have a president-elect, Joe Biden."

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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2020, 04:11:42 am »
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LOOK!  JUDGE DID IT TODAY!

Judge dismisses Trump camp's Pennsylvania lawsuit in scathing ruling

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/527042-judge-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-in-pennsylvania

HERE IS PART OF IT, REST IN QUOTES:

A federal judge on Saturday dismissed the Trump campaign's lawsuit in Pennsylvania seeking to invalidate millions of votes, issuing a scathing opinion saying that the state can move forward with certifying its election results.

U.S. Middle District Judge Matthew Brann ruled that the campaign presented “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations" that were "unsupported by evidence."

"In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more," the judge wrote.

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Re: Pennsylvania House Approves Full Audit of 2020 Election Vote
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2020, 04:30:08 am »
-- 1.  The Judge threw it out because Trump failed to prove fraud.  Trump's team was not alleging fraud, so it's a non-sequitur. 
-- 2.  It's an Obama Judge.  He only appointed devoted lefties, there was zero balance in that bunch. 
-- 3.  He cited a case that the SCOTUS deadlocked on, 4-4 in October after Notorious Fair Lady kicked the bucket.  The case was out of the 3rd Circuit.  That created no Supreme Court precedent, so the SCOTUS (with ACB) has a clean slate to work with.

Thank goodness this fool of a Judge ruled quickly.  More time for the appeals to work their way to SCOTUS.  And thank goodness Trump stuck to his guns to get Barrett on the bench, preventing another deadlock on a potentially liberal Circuit decision  to ignore the Constitution, as they routinely do.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 04:31:06 am by Cyber Liberty »
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