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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2020, 01:08:25 am »
The link reports a Federal Judge dismissing a lawsuit because allegations of fraud were not credible.  My understanding, which stands to be corrected, is that the "Trump Campaign lawsuit" in PA does not allege fraud, it alleges unequal (hence unconstitutional) treatment of votes.  I believe Rudy Giuliani has already pointed out that multiple lawsuits brought by plaintiffs not connected to the Trump campaign have been dismissed and, inaccurately, reported by the media as legal defeats for Trump.  It is not clear to me that this reported dismissal is the end of the line in PA.

As is normal for Obama Judges, this one will twist any argument into the one he can find against Trump.  No claim of fraud was made, and yet he threw it out because there's no fraud.  That's John Roberts level spinning.  We'll be seeing this all the way to the SCOTUS.  And to the doomsayers, there is time to do it.
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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2020, 01:15:36 am »
This story identifies the Judge as a "long-time Republican," but Wiki says he was an O'Bastard appointment.  How does this make any sense??

Liberals running under the Republican umbrella...or shifting parties??
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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2020, 01:53:48 am »
Liberals running under the Republican umbrella...or shifting parties??

Or was a far-leftie who acted as a Republican because being a Rat in his hometown couldn't be elected dog catcher.  Either way, I think O'Bastard would never appoint a Judge who didn't to the leftist line.
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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2020, 04:09:20 am »
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PA Case Update

Ok, some good news in the ruling:

-Judge Brann, either out of mass stupidity or deliberate genius, cited the Bognet v. Boockvar PA SC decision for his grounds of dismissal.

-SCOTUS deadlocked 4-4 to overturn Bognet in Oct.

THAT tees up SCOTUS.

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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2020, 03:17:19 pm »
'Without merit': Judge dismisses Trump campaign lawsuit in Pennsylvania
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter & Zachary Halaschak, Breaking News Reporter |
 | November 21, 2020 07:25 PM
 | Updated Nov 21, 2020, 08:33 PM

The Trump campaign’s lawsuit seeking to block the certification of Pennsylvania’s election was dismissed with prejudice by a federal court judge on Saturday.

U.S. Middle District of Pennsylvania Judge Matthew Brann made the decision after days of motions filed on both sides and after hearing oral arguments on Tuesday from President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who took over the case last week.

In a scathing critique of the legal basis for the case, Brann wrote that Trump’s lawyers “ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters” but “this Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated.”

“One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens,” Brann ruled. “That has not happened.”

The judge, an Obama appointee unanimously confirmed by the Senate in 2012, said that the plaintiffs offered “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations.”

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/without-merit-judge-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-in-pennsylvania
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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2020, 03:28:24 pm »
Trump Lawyers: Pennsylvania Lawsuit Dismissal Moves Us Closer to Supreme Court

President Donald Trump’s campaign lawyers said Saturday they would file an appeal to the Third Circuit court after a federal judge dismissed a lawsuit to challenge the results of the election in Pennsylvania.

Trump 2020 attorneys former Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis said in a statement:

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Today’s decision turns out to help us in our strategy to get expeditiously to the U.S. Supreme Court. Although we fully disagree with this opinion, we’re thankful to the Obama-appointed judge for making this anticipated decision quickly, rather than simply trying to run out the clock.

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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2020, 07:01:06 pm »
This story identifies the Judge as a "long-time Republican," but Wiki says he was an O'Bastard appointment.  How does this make any sense??

Susan Collins is a life-long Republican, too.   :shrug:

In any case, I think the overarching expectation is that this will end up in the SCOTUS, so every lower court decision - whether for or against - is just another step down that path. 
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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2020, 07:48:50 pm »
'Without merit': Judge dismisses Trump campaign lawsuit in Pennsylvania
by Jerry Dunleavy, Justice Department Reporter & Zachary Halaschak, Breaking News Reporter |
 | November 21, 2020 07:25 PM
 | Updated Nov 21, 2020, 08:33 PM

The Trump campaign’s lawsuit seeking to block the certification of Pennsylvania’s election was dismissed with prejudice by a federal court judge on Saturday.

U.S. Middle District of Pennsylvania Judge Matthew Brann made the decision after days of motions filed on both sides and after hearing oral arguments on Tuesday from President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who took over the case last week.

In a scathing critique of the legal basis for the case, Brann wrote that Trump’s lawyers “ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters” but “this Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated.”

“One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens,” Brann ruled. “That has not happened.”

The judge, an Obama appointee unanimously confirmed by the Senate in 2012, said that the plaintiffs offered “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations.”

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/without-merit-judge-dismisses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-in-pennsylvania
The judge assumes (without evidence) that those seven million voters even exist, or that they, themselves, should they exist, cast those ballots. In an assertion of fraud, the matter contested includes the existence of the very voters the judge claims are being disenfranchised.
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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2020, 07:54:18 pm »
The judge assumes (without evidence) that those seven million voters even exist, or that they, themselves, should they exist, cast those ballots. In an assertion of fraud, the matter contested includes the existence of the very voters the judge claims are being disenfranchised.
And, as usual, no mention of the 7 million legal voters disenfranchised were the judge to assume wrongly.

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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2020, 10:29:48 pm »
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NEW: @TeamTrump has filed the notice of appeal in our federal case out of Pennsylvania.



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« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2020, 11:20:42 pm »
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NEW: @TeamTrump has filed the notice of appeal in our federal case out of Pennsylvania.



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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2020, 06:10:34 pm »
Appeals Court Grants Expedited Review of Trump Campaign’s Pennsylvania Lawsuit
https://trulytimes.com/appeals-court-grants-expedited-review-of-trump-campaigns-pennsylvania-lawsuit.html
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« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2020, 06:23:53 pm »
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According to the order, Trump’s “motion for emergency expedited review is granted at the direction of the court.”

Their brief now needs to be filed by 4 p.m. on Monday, Nov. 23, and more have to be filed by 4 p.m. on Tuesday. “The court will advise if oral argument desired,” it said.

Pennsylvania’s 67 counties are scheduled to certify their election results by the end of Monday before sending them to state election officials.

Last week, a math professor who specializes in analytic number theory wrote in a sworn affidavit that he flagged up to 100,000 ballots in Pennsylvania of potential fraud.

“I estimate that the number of ballots that were either requested by someone other than the registered Republican or requested and returned but not counted range from 89,397 to 98,801,” Miller said in the sworn statement (pdf), according to Just The News.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/appeals-court-grants-expedited-review-of-trump-campaigns-pennsylvania-lawsuit_3590208.html

Declaration of Mathematics Professor, Steven J Miller, PhDhttps://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/Miller_DeclarationAndAnalyisPA_GOP_BallotRequestData_2020_Final.pdf

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Re: Pennsylvania: Legal Updates
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2020, 01:16:06 am »
Pennsylvania Legislative Committee Shuts Down Election Audit Request

Joshua Caplan 23 Nov 2020

Pennsylvania state lawmakers on Monday turned down a formal call for the 2020 election to undergo an audit as President Donald Trump continues to challenge the key battleground state’s election results.

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A bipartisan, bicameral legislative service agency on Monday, in a rare move, rejected a request from the House of Representatives to conduct a statistical-level review of the conduct of 2020 general election. The Legislative Budget & Finance Committee officers voted 2-1 against performing the “risk-limiting” audit that was ordered by House Resolution 1100. That resolution, sponsored by Rep. Jesse Topper, R-Bedford County, passed the House on Thursday by a 112-90 vote, with all Republican members and three Democrats supporting it. […] Sen. Jim Brewster and Rep. Jake Wheatley, both Allegheny County Democrats, voted against taking on the audit. Sen. Bob Mensch, R-Montgomery County, favored the committee accept the assignment. Rep. Steve Barrar, R-Delaware County, who is retiring from the House at the end of this month, didn’t participate in the Zoom meeting.

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« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2020, 01:26:41 am »
Pennsylvania Legislative Committee Shuts Down Election Audit Request

Joshua Caplan 23 Nov 2020

Pennsylvania state lawmakers on Monday turned down a formal call for the 2020 election to undergo an audit as President Donald Trump continues to challenge the key battleground state’s election results.

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THIS is a state legislature we're depending on to repair the broken election?  I am, for real, laughing my azz off.
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« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2020, 04:26:05 pm »
Pennsylvania certifies election results for Biden
The certification comes after President Trump pursued various legal challenges in the state.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/pennsylvania-certifies-election-results-biden-n1248804?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
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« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2020, 10:21:23 pm »
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  NEW: PENNSYLVANIA, ARIZONA, MICHIGAN LEGISLATURES TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON 2020 ELECTION

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« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2020, 02:38:10 pm »
Pennsylvania State Senate Plans Meeting to Air Complaints of Voter Fraud

The Pennsylvania State Senate Majority Policy Committee plans to meet Wednesday in Gettysburg to air complaints of voter fraud to the public.

“Over the past few weeks, I have heard from thousands of Pennsylvanians regarding issues experienced at the polls, irregularities with the mail-in voting system, and concerns whether their vote was counted,” State Sen. David Argall, R-Mahanoy City said in a statement. “We need to correct these issues to restore faith in our republic.”

The meeting will take place on Wednesday, November 25 at 12:30 p.m. at the Wyndham Hotel in Gettysburg.

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Pennsylvania State Senate Plans Meeting to Air Complaints of Voter Fraud

The Pennsylvania State Senate Majority Policy Committee plans to meet Wednesday in Gettysburg to air complaints of voter fraud to the public.

“Over the past few weeks, I have heard from thousands of Pennsylvanians regarding issues experienced at the polls, irregularities with the mail-in voting system, and concerns whether their vote was counted,” State Sen. David Argall, R-Mahanoy City said in a statement. “We need to correct these issues to restore faith in our republic.”

The meeting will take place on Wednesday, November 25 at 12:30 p.m. at the Wyndham Hotel in Gettysburg.

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I hope that isn't like so many meetings I have been to where when it was over, they said we heard the testimony or comments of X number of people, and then ignored them all to do what we wanted to do in the first place. 9999hair out0000
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« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2020, 03:09:17 pm »
I hope that isn't like so many meetings I have been to where when it was over, they said we heard the testimony or comments of X number of people, and then ignored them all to do what we wanted to do in the first place. 9999hair out0000

I expect this to be the result of this Kabuki Theatre.
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« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2020, 03:22:07 pm »
I expect this to be the result of this Kabuki Theatre.
I think the real question here, is one of how many elected officials owe their jobs to fraud, no matter which side of the aisle they are on. I don't think an honest assessment of that situation would make us happy at all.

And by fraud I don't just mean the lying media acting as propaganda organs to affect how people voted, but actual tampering with, switching, destroying, 'weighing' votes, and stuffing ballot boxes through all the various means ("harvesting", multiple votes, created votes, duplicate ballots, dead voter ballots, stolen ballots, etc.). I believe all of these methods were used, and even multiple methods in the same districts to make it harder to expose the fraud.

Remember, the refuge and first line of defense of these scoundrels has been to perform illegal acts so outrageous that attempts to expose them are dismissed as "conspiracy theory" because to the average LIV or honest person, they sound incredulous.
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« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2020, 04:33:41 pm »
Trump cancels plans to attend Pennsylvania GOP event on election

President Trump canceled plans on Wednesday to attend an event orchestrated by Pennsylvania Republicans to highlight allegations of election irregularities.

Trump was expected to join Rudy Giuliani and other legal representatives affiliated with his campaign at the event at a hotel in Gettysburg, but it was scrapped at the last moment. The trip was never officially on Trump's schedule, but multiple news outlets reported he planned to make an appearance.

The cancellation came shortly after a campaign adviser, Boris Epshteyn, shared that he had tested positive for coronavirus. Epshteyn was at a news conference last week alongside Giuliani and Jenna Ellis, who were both planning to make the trip to Gettysburg.
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The Republican Party of Pennsylvania had announced the event would take place at a Gettysburg hotel rather than the state capitol building. Some in the party have pushed allegations of fraud in the vote in the state, but there is no evidence of widespread irregularities.

Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf (D) on Monday formally signed off on the state's certification declaring Joe Biden as the winner.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/527531-trump-cancels-plans-to-attend-pennsylvania-gop-event-on-election
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