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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2020, 06:07:51 pm »
That's what I thought... And now we're going to see kick the can, followed by hot potato, followed by... nothing.

Nope!  In the absence of a full audit, the documents remain unsigned and there is no certification.
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2020, 06:08:32 pm »
In other words, No audit no certification!

I hope you're right. But I doubt you are. The weight is off the originators. Now comes the razzle-dazzle, where that weight will fall on no one.

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« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2020, 06:12:27 pm »
Guys, relax. They certified with audit conditions attached.

The two Rs on the committee have not signed the certification @Weird Tolkienish Figure

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« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2020, 06:14:51 pm »
The way I understand/read it... they conditioned that certification with a required audit.   Then and only then would they sign off on the certification.

Does anyone here know exactly which scenario is the correct one?

According to the President the two Republicans have not signed the certification papers @XenaLee   He's tweeted twice this morning about this.  They're waiting for a full audit.

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« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2020, 06:16:58 pm »
Something like that... but it is literally kicking the can.

Actually, it's literally holding the line.

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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2020, 06:23:38 pm »
Actually, it's literally holding the line.

Like I said, I hope that's true.

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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2020, 06:24:03 pm »
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Well that is excellent news. Source plz?

See my previous post.

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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2020, 06:30:25 pm »
According to the President the two Republicans have not signed the certification papers @XenaLee   He's tweeted twice this morning about this.  They're waiting for a full audit.

Which is exactly how I understood the situation to be.   And which also means that anyone trying to present this as an automatic defeat for Trump/win for Biden is being misleading, at best....

and is outright lying, at worst.

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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2020, 09:27:09 pm »
Guys, relax. They certified with audit conditions attached.

You forgot this:  :sarc:
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #59 on: November 19, 2020, 12:53:31 am »
I think it ought to be obvious to all here by now:
After the failure of Republicans to stand up to what happened in Wayne County last night, there's not much chance of Mr. Trump reversing his fortune and winning.

I wish I didn't have to say that.
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2020, 01:01:58 am »
I'd write 'em a check, pronto.

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« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2020, 01:03:50 am »
For $7.9 million, Trump could conduct his own recount.
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« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2020, 01:08:05 am »
Take it out of the war on terror budget.
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2020, 01:13:40 am »
I think it ought to be obvious to all here by now:
After the failure of Republicans to stand up to what happened in Wayne County last night, there's not much chance of Mr. Trump reversing his fortune and winning.

I wish I didn't have to say that.
But I call 'em as I see 'em.
And that's what I see comin' down the pike.

I'd like to know what more could have been done.  All Republicans refused to certify last night.  Maybe they should have taken the Rats out back and beaten them like they were Corn Pop.
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« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2020, 01:15:09 am »
I'd like to know what more could have been done.  All Republicans refused to certify last night.  Maybe they should have taken the Rats out back and beaten them like they were Corn Pop.

Works for me.
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2020, 01:16:02 am »
Take it out of the war on terror budget.

Take it out of the Subsidize DC budget.
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2020, 01:19:40 am »
Works for me.

That would make a fortune on Pay Per View.
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2020, 01:48:56 am »
The rules (stop laughing!) say that if the vote difference is outside of certain limits, the candidate can still request one if they pay for it even if they get charged an exorbitant rate. 
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2020, 01:51:35 am »
SHell out the money and pick your own people to do the recount instead of the ones who stuffed the boxes. Let them watch.
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2020, 02:06:26 am »
Trump is paying $3 million for Dane and Milwaukee Counties.  After the fact, Dems are now trying to change the rules for recounts.

https://wiseye.org/2020/11/18/wisconsin-elections-commission-special-teleconference-meeting-13/
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« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2020, 02:14:56 am »
That would make a fortune on Pay Per View.
Enough to pay for a real recount/audit.
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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2020, 02:15:09 am »
American Military News by  Liz George  November 18, 2020

President Donald Trump’s campaign filed a recount petition with the Wisconsin Elections Commission in two counties Wednesday, alleging illegally changed absentee ballots, illegally issued absentee ballots, and illegal advice from government officials that allowed Voter ID laws to be avoided.

According to a press release from Trump’s re-election campaign, Milwaukee and Dane counties were chosen because “they are the locations with the worst irregularities.” The estimated cost of the recount is around $3 million, and the Trump campaign said it transferred that amount to the state.

The release alleged that the Wisconsin Elections Commission told Wisconsin municipal clerks to modify incomplete absentee ballots, directly contradicting Wisconsin law.

“Clerks were instructed that they could rely on their own ‘personal knowledge,’ or unspecified ‘lists or databases at his or her disposal’ to add in missing information on returned absentee ballots,” the release stated. “Under Wisconsin law, incomplete absentee ballots may not be counted.”

Trump’s campaign went on to claim clerks across the state of Wisconsin distributed absentee ballots to voters without an application, violating absentee voting safeguards.

More: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/11/trump-campaign-files-for-recount-in-2-wisconsin-counties-foots-3m-bill/

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BREAKING: WI Elections Commission, after seeing President Trump’s recount petition and objections, is trying to change the recount manual at an emergency meeting tonight at 6 pm to make objections harder to make. This must be stopped.— Andrew Hitt (@AndrewHittGOP) November 18, 2020