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Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« on: November 18, 2020, 01:03:16 am »
HUGE! Elections Security Expert Finds Wisconsin Results a COMPLETE FRAUD — Current Machines Do Not Have Capability to Count the Mass Dumps for Biden in Reported Time Period (VIDEO)
By Jim Hoft
Published November 17, 2020 at 6:31pm



Russ Ramsland, of the Allied Security Operations Group, joined Lou Dobbs on Tuesday night to discuss the Wisconsin presidential election.

Ramsland confirmed the vote was fraudulent and he has proof!

The election was stolen!

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    Russ Ramsland: We have been out looking mostly at Michigan. We are beginning on turning our sights on Pennsylvania and Georgia. The things you find in Michigan are amazing. There are over 3,000 precincts where the presidential votes cast compared to the estimated voters from the SOS (Secretary of State) is 99% all the way up to 350%. Those kind of numbers don’t exist in the real world. So where did all those votes come from? And looking at that, we’ve gone back and looked at some of these huge vote dumps that were mostly Biden’s. We call them spikes. We’ve gone back and traced the spikes. We’ve seen where they were cast, primarily in four counties. We looked at how long it took to cast those votes. And we looked at the equipment that exists at all of those locations by serial number. And the fact of the matter is we can’t see any physical way possible for some of those votes to have been in those kind of numbers because they just don’t have the equipment that can produce it in that timing.

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Re: Wisconsin: Legal Updates
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 01:12:47 am »
You mean to tell me that one voting machine can't handle 6,000 voters casting votes in a 3 minute period?
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 01:18:01 am »
I wonder if SCOTUS will be moved by this overwhelming preponderance of evidence.

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2020, 01:27:31 am »
The Guinness Book of World Records should be notified.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2020, 01:31:53 am »
Oh, that's a very neat argument.

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2020, 01:32:39 am »
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2020, 01:36:45 am »
Oh, that's a very neat argument.

I really hope you are being serious.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2020, 01:39:24 am »
I really hope you are being serious.

Why wouldn't I be being serious?

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2020, 01:41:55 am »
Never mind.  I should not have suspected sarcasm from you.  My mistake.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2020, 01:46:35 am »
skeeter wrote:
"I wonder if SCOTUS will be moved by this overwhelming preponderance of evidence."

Even if they were... what kind of "judicial relief" can they order?

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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2020, 01:51:53 am »
skeeter wrote:
"I wonder if SCOTUS will be moved by this overwhelming preponderance of evidence."

Even if they were... what kind of "judicial relief" can they order?
after what happened in Michigan today I'm beginning to think it is possible more counties will refuse to certify results.

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2020, 02:05:41 am »
Never mind.  I should not have suspected sarcasm from you.  My mistake.

 :silly: Alright. I guess I deserved that.  :beer:

But yes, I was being serious.

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2020, 05:12:31 am »
Oh, that's a very neat argument.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2020, 07:24:18 am »
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Roamer, a reflection.
The paranoia on parade has reached crescendo levels for some;
requiring medical attention!!!

I am a step off of that @Absalom ... But I surely see it. To read through these threads you would think that every precinct everywhere is full of cheating Democrats, which is probably part of what offends @Victoria33 so much. By and large I think that our elections and their officials and workers try hard to uphold the standard one would expect.

But I am willing to entertain claims of malfeasance - Even massive fraud - But as one might suppose, proof is required. I think there will always be some cheating. That is unavoidable.

This particular instance is more along the lines of what I would expect as endemic - A small precinct overtaken by partisans, who try to shovel truckloads of fraudulent ballots through... That they did their work so very well winds up being their undoing, when the number of ballots they supposedly processed  out-does their literal and mechanical means.

They have certainly cheated an order of magnitude above their capacity to process... And that is a hard argument to deny. That brings a chuckle... Maybe even a chortle... When they get hoisted upon their own petard. As they damn well should.


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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2020, 01:20:43 pm »
...To read through these threads you would think that every precinct everywhere is full of cheating Democrats,...



Nope! Just a few precincts in Philly, Pittsburg, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Detroit, Chicago, and Las Vegas.  But there is likely a lot in other places as well.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2020, 01:36:43 pm »
You mean to tell me that one voting machine can't handle 6,000 voters casting votes in a 3 minute period?

I wonder what the average time is to mark a ballot? Depending on the Propositions,etc, if I read through them, more than three minutes.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2020, 01:38:03 pm »
Oh, that's a very neat argument.

It really is.  And it should be a fairly simple thing to prove.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2020, 02:00:02 pm »
I think there will always be some cheating. That is unavoidable.

The primary reason for that is because cheating is never punished.  In the risk-reward equation, risk is non-existent.  And most posters here are really pissed off about it.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, and this time around the wheel is a bit louder than usual.  It will be nearly impossible to overturn the perennial fraud in Wayne County.  Sure, they had more votes logged there than they have eligible voters.  But that is true every election.  But looking at the neighboring suburban counties, it is clear that Wayne-County-style ballot stuffing has been introduced.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2020, 02:04:39 pm »
It really is.  And it should be a fairly simple thing to prove.

Nonsense.  Just because 6,000 consecutive voters were able to cast votes for Joe Biden in a 3 min period on one voting machine without a single vote for Trump being cast, that doesn't prove anything.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2020, 02:05:30 pm »
Nonsense.  Just because 6,000 consecutive voters were able to cast votes for Joe Biden in a 3 min period without a single vote for Trump being cast, that doesn't prove anything.

And I'm sure it happens all the time.

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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2020, 02:10:21 pm »
Election headlines that start with "HUGE!" are usually the exact opposite IMO.

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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2020, 02:11:52 pm »
Election headlines that start with "HUGE!" are usually the exact opposite IMO.

I generally would agree with you @Weird Tolkienish Figure but not in this particular case.
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2020, 03:17:28 pm »
Wisconsin Refuses to Initiate Statewide Recount Unless Trump Campaign Hands Over $7.9 Million
 By Ryan Ledendecker
Published November 18, 2020 at 5:49am

Among countless other litigation-related decisions surrounding the outcome of the 2020 election, President Donald Trump is now forced to weigh whether or not he’s willing to spend vast amounts of money for official recounts in states that he lost by narrow margins to former Vice President Joe Biden.

According to the Daily Wire, one of those states is Wisconsin, where Trump lost to Biden by a narrow six-tenths of a point. Because of the thin margins, Trump is entitled to request an official state recount, but only if he’s willing to shell out a whopping $7.9 million to cover the costs of such a herculean effort.

The Wisconsin Elections Commission broke the news to the president this week, informing him that recounts are provided free of charge if the margin between winning and losing falls at 0.25 percent or less. Anything higher than that margin requires the person requesting the recount to fork out the money to cover it.

Adding to the president’s decision is the fact that the WEC informed Trump and his legal team that they only have until close of business this Wednesday to order the recount. If Trump’s team moves forward with it, the state would be forced to act quickly and finish the recount by December 1.

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2020, 03:36:38 pm »
"It will be nearly impossible to overturn the perennial fraud in Wayne County.  Sure, they had more votes logged there than they have eligible voters.  But that is true every election.  But looking at the neighboring suburban counties, it is clear that Wayne-County-style ballot stuffing has been introduced."
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Guys, TV this morning, Wednesday, says Wayne County has certified their results.
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2020, 03:40:47 pm »
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Guys, TV this morning, Wednesday, says Wayne County has certified their results.

Yes, they did it last night.  I believe somebody has a Zoom video where somebody threatened the County Recorder's children.  But, that's OK because we've had a whole summer of approved rioters beating the Shineola out of people.  We're supposed to be used to violent lawbreakers.
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