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ARS Technica by Jon Brodkin - 11/12/2020

"Link stability is a little rough," but Netflix works great, one user says.

When SpaceX opened the Starlink public beta last month, the company told users to expect "brief periods of no connectivity at all" over the first few months. It's one of the reasons that SpaceX calls this testing period the "Better Than Nothing" beta.

Early reports from Starlink beta testers confirm that users are suffering from this problem to some extent. But Starlink's overall performance has wowed beta testers, many of whom previously had no access to modern broadband speeds.

"Link stability is a little rough," Reddit user Exodatum wrote on the Starlink subreddit yesterday. "We're getting jumps bad enough to disconnect us from connection-sensitive servers every 5-10 minutes, but things like Netflix are working perfectly. We watched Airplane! as an inaugural stream and it was fabulous." (Buffering deployed by Netflix and other streaming services can keep videos running when there are brief Internet problems.)

Exodatum placed the Starlink satellite dish/user terminal on a picnic table outside the house. Bad weather may be having an effect on the service. "There is heavy snow in our area, and dense overcast for the most part with a few breaks today," Exodatum wrote, adding that upload speeds have varied from 10Mbps to 30Mbps and download speeds from 15Mbps to 120Mbps.

More: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/11/spacex-starlink-has-some-hiccups-as-expected-but-users-are-impressed/

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Re: SpaceX Starlink has some hiccups as expected, but users are impressed
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2020, 06:45:21 pm »
ARS Technica by Jon Brodkin - 11/12/2020

"Link stability is a little rough," but Netflix works great, one user says.

When SpaceX opened the Starlink public beta last month, the company told users to expect "brief periods of no connectivity at all" over the first few months. It's one of the reasons that SpaceX calls this testing period the "Better Than Nothing" beta.

Early reports from Starlink beta testers confirm that users are suffering from this problem to some extent. But Starlink's overall performance has wowed beta testers, many of whom previously had no access to modern broadband speeds.

"Link stability is a little rough," Reddit user Exodatum wrote on the Starlink subreddit yesterday. "We're getting jumps bad enough to disconnect us from connection-sensitive servers every 5-10 minutes, but things like Netflix are working perfectly. We watched Airplane! as an inaugural stream and it was fabulous." (Buffering deployed by Netflix and other streaming services can keep videos running when there are brief Internet problems.)

Exodatum placed the Starlink satellite dish/user terminal on a picnic table outside the house. Bad weather may be having an effect on the service. "There is heavy snow in our area, and dense overcast for the most part with a few breaks today," Exodatum wrote, adding that upload speeds have varied from 10Mbps to 30Mbps and download speeds from 15Mbps to 120Mbps.

More: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/11/spacex-starlink-has-some-hiccups-as-expected-but-users-are-impressed/

What are the upload and download speeds. 
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Re: SpaceX Starlink has some hiccups as expected, but users are impressed
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2020, 07:04:07 pm »
What are the upload and download speeds.

In the "Beta" or the final product?  My posting that you quoted showed a beta speed that Exodatum found was: "upload speeds have varied from 10Mbps to 30Mbps and download speeds from 15Mbps to 120Mbps"

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Re: SpaceX Starlink has some hiccups as expected, but users are impressed
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2020, 07:33:16 pm »
In the "Beta" or the final product?  My posting that you quoted showed a beta speed that Exodatum found was: "upload speeds have varied from 10Mbps to 30Mbps and download speeds from 15Mbps to 120Mbps"
I am getting 86 to 103 MBs download speeds with Comcast cable.  They claim to have better plans up to 300MBs if you pay more.  Space X even mentioning 15MBs indicates a total failure, unless you live in the jungle with no cable
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Re: SpaceX Starlink has some hiccups as expected, but users are impressed
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2020, 07:45:45 pm »
I am getting 86 to 103 MBs download speeds with Comcast cable.  They claim to have better plans up to 300MBs if you pay more.  Space X even mentioning 15MBs indicates a total failure, unless you live in the jungle with no cable

You got your bits and bytes all mixed up. 15Mb not 15MB. And there are quite a bunch of internet jungle bunnies with no cable and HughesNet is their only option.

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Re: SpaceX Starlink has some hiccups as expected, but users are impressed
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2020, 07:51:28 pm »
You got your bits and bytes all mixed up. 15Mb not 15MB. And there are quite a bunch of internet jungle bunnies with no cable and HughesNet is their only option.
Nothing is mixed up 15Mbps will not sell in the USA unless cable is not possible.  And do not let them tell you that the hardware is beta because the hardware is satellites that are not upgradeable
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Re: SpaceX Starlink has some hiccups as expected, but users are impressed
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2020, 08:16:50 pm »
Nothing is mixed up 15Mbps will not sell in the USA unless cable is not possible.  And do not let them tell you that the hardware is beta because the hardware is satellites that are not upgradeable

Not upgradeable?  What software system these days are not upgradeable?

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SpaceX Details Testing Conditions, Latency Figures For Starlink

https://wccftech.com/spacex-starlink-tests-software-update-speed-double/

The presentation shows that either at the start of October or in late September, SpaceX installed key software upgrades for Starlink. These upgrades, according to the company, resulted and will result in the internet service's download speeds improving by "2.5 times" prior to previous values -  a gain nearly mirrored by Speedtest's data.

If you aren't impressed with the performance, by all means, stay with your cable. Personally I pulled the plug on cable back in the 80's. I'm currently on 1Gb Fiber.

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2020, 10:32:10 pm »
Not upgradeable?  What software system these days are not upgradeable?

If you aren't impressed with the performance, by all means, stay with your cable. Personally I pulled the plug on cable back in the 80's. I'm currently on 1Gb Fiber.
Satellites are not software they are hardware, upgrading means replacing.  15Mbps is a telephone speed and it's already obsolete, unless the user lives in a West Virginia shed with their Mom.

Fiber optic is bullshit dude, unless you have fiber optic all the way to the source, which seldom happens.  Most have no clue
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Re: SpaceX Starlink has some hiccups as expected, but users are impressed
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2020, 11:09:46 pm »
Just tested 2 minutes ago and got 712Mbps or so (comcast xfinity cable).