Top evangelical Trump ally calls for Christians to accept Biden as president-elect

[Absalom]

Wow, it took you a whole weak to come in and gloat about it?

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Hmm........weak, eh?
Just can't resist calling attention to yourself.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

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Assuming you can count & read, Trump is behind Biden by 5,000,000 votes and it's increasing.
Pretentious lecturing won't change reality tomorrow, the day after or on Jan 20!!!

You must not be American if you believe our system of government is the President is selected that way instead of how many votes received in the Electoral College.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

You must not be American if you believe our system of government is the President is selected that way instead of how many votes received in the Electoral College.

You're right, but Trump is still behind in that arena by about 200K votes (to overturn elector results) last I checked.

Trump has about a 1% chance to overturn the election IMO.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

You're right, but Trump is still behind in that arena by about 200K votes (to overturn elector results) last I checked.

Trump has about a 1% chance to overturn the election IMO.

Are you certifying the votes tabulated so far as legal?

All I have seen so far is some states that went for Trump, some that went for Biden, and a number where spurious counts have been tabulated that must be resolved.

Stop getting on the leftist media bandwagon claiming Trump has been voted out of office.

The votes that count are legitimate votes, and that remains to be seen how many votes tabulated so far are actually legitimate.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Are you certifying the votes tabulated so far as legal?

No I'm saying the courts are highly unlikely to overturn election results, and therefor highly unlikely to side with Trump. They may find some fraud, but they'll just throw out the fraudulent ballots. I just read that recounts have only altered elections disputed by a few hundred.

[catfish1957]

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Hmm........weak, eh?
Just can't resist calling attention to yourself.

Wow...  the last retort arrow in your quiver is highlighting  auto/correct or typos.  You've deemed yourself irrelevant.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

No I'm saying the courts are highly unlikely to overturn election results, and therefor highly unlikely to side with Trump. They may find some fraud, but they'll just throw out the fraudulent ballots. I just read that recounts have only altered elections disputed by a few hundred.

Of course a court will not overturn election results.  Why would they be asked to do that?

This is not what would be asked of them.

They would be asked whether election was undertaken in a legal manner, such as which votes were counted or whether they were cast or counted in conformance with the Constitution.

If they agree the election was not conducted as per Constitution, the recourse they would deem would be to eliminate those votes not in conformance with the Constitution or to hold a new election.

[berdie]

I don't trust the media on EITHER SIDE of anything. I think there is corruption of course. But the only corruption that matters is the corruption you can prove.  And that is done in a courtroom, not in the scandal sheets. All the rest of it is tub-thumping.

I agree @roamer_1 . Especially about the media...on both sides. It's probably always been that way, but far more open and pronounced. The advent of 24/7 news only exacerbated it. Everybody had to be first to report...accurate or not. I would like to see crawls used for every report that state "This is an opinion" since few people take the time to discern the difference between news and opinion.

A few years ago, I started playing a new game. If I hear a report that sounds remotely accurate I keep track of it. If it actually becomes a fact I'm more inclined to trust the reporter in the future. I call it "The News In Arrears".

[roamer_1]

I agree @roamer_1 . Especially about the media...on both sides. It's probably always been that way, but far more open and pronounced. The advent of 24/7 news only exacerbated it. Everybody had to be first to report...accurate or not. I would like to see crawls used for every report that state "This is an opinion" since few people take the time to discern the difference between news and opinion.

A few years ago, I started playing a new game. If I hear a report that sounds remotely accurate I keep track of it. If it actually becomes a fact I'm more inclined to trust the reporter in the future. I call it "The News In Arrears".

@berdie

I have largely rejected all of it. What little I get I get aggregated here in half hour perusals... I am still likely to listen to long form news and commentary shows... Shapiro is a favorite. Tim Pool, a disaffected Democrat also seems to try to vet his work. But the main thing is, these and other sources are not 240char blurbs, but rather full reports with complicated story lines, given the time it takes to flesh them out a bit. Still get some OANN first thing in the morning... The rest of the time, whatever comes in at the top of the hour on HANK FM, which I find unsettling as I wait for the country music to come back on.

But on the whole, a pox on all of it. I don't see no sense in getting all jacked up over something that is wholly out of my control, and entirely without a tangible reward. especially when I have no dog in the hunt in the first place.

I have a quarter elk to saw up and get in the smoke, and then into the freezer (some dang how)... THAT's something I can control, and a thing that will heap up a nice reward for my time. Another couple flats of apples to process and can up for pie filling, with the remainder getting dried as apple chips. Now there's something I can DO with an actual result.

Way easier on my belly, and way easier on my mind. 

[berdie]

@berdie

I have largely rejected all of it. What little I get I get aggregated here in half hour perusals... I am still likely to listen to long form news and commentary shows... Shapiro is a favorite. Tim Pool, a disaffected Democrat also seems to try to vet his work. But the main thing is, these and other sources are not 240char blurbs, but rather full reports with complicated story lines, given the time it takes to flesh them out a bit. Still get some OANN first thing in the morning... The rest of the time, whatever comes in at the top of the hour on HANK FM, which I find unsettling as I wait for the country music to come back on.

But on the whole, a pox on all of it. I don't see no sense in getting all jacked up over something that is wholly out of my control, and entirely without a tangible reward. especially when I have no dog in the hunt in the first place.

I have a quarter elk to saw up and get in the smoke, and then into the freezer (some dang how)... THAT's something I can control, and a thing that will heap up a nice reward for my time. Another couple flats of apples to process and can up for pie filling, with the remainder getting dried as apple chips. Now there's something I can DO with an actual result.

Way easier on my belly, and way easier on my mind. 

 

[DB]

@berdie

I have largely rejected all of it. What little I get I get aggregated here in half hour perusals... I am still likely to listen to long form news and commentary shows... Shapiro is a favorite. Tim Pool, a disaffected Democrat also seems to try to vet his work. But the main thing is, these and other sources are not 240char blurbs, but rather full reports with complicated story lines, given the time it takes to flesh them out a bit. Still get some OANN first thing in the morning... The rest of the time, whatever comes in at the top of the hour on HANK FM, which I find unsettling as I wait for the country music to come back on.

But on the whole, a pox on all of it. I don't see no sense in getting all jacked up over something that is wholly out of my control, and entirely without a tangible reward. especially when I have no dog in the hunt in the first place.

I have a quarter elk to saw up and get in the smoke, and then into the freezer (some dang how)... THAT's something I can control, and a thing that will heap up a nice reward for my time. Another couple flats of apples to process and can up for pie filling, with the remainder getting dried as apple chips. Now there's something I can DO with an actual result.

Way easier on my belly, and way easier on my mind. 

Come on man!

(bad joke)

I do believe you'd enjoy "President elect" Biden with all his certainty suddenly denied the Presidency. The let down would be epic. The left came unhinged the last time around this would take it to a whole new level. I'd like to see that...

[christian]

From what i saw today, Pennsylvania is undergoing some major voting corrections.  The States have LAWS that decide issues and how elections are done.  PA is an excellent example of the very laws that HAD to be followed were egregiously broken by democrats.  Amazing how democrat locksteppers can tell you how the election had/has to be conducted in conflict with elections laws of said state.  The State can step in and remedy,and failing that, WE HAVE A SUPREME COURT FOR A REASON !  Liberals believe the sacred lie/and-or deceit over comes all law.  they are about see reality slap them in the face.  When democrats tell you what can't be overturned, remember their confidence is in their lieing.

[DB]

From what i saw today, Pennsylvania is undergoing some major voting corrections.  The States have LAWS that decide issues and how elections are done.  PA is an excellent example of the very laws that HAD to be followed were egregiously broken by democrats.  Amazing how democrat locksteppers can tell you how the election had/has to be conducted in conflict with elections laws of said state.  The State can step in and remedy,and failing that, WE HAVE A SUPREME COURT FOR A REASON !  Liberals believe the sacred lie/and-or deceit over comes all law.  they are about see reality slap them in the face.  When democrats tell you what can't be overturned, remember their confidence is in their lieing.

In short, lefties believe the ends justify the means. Their cause is so righteous that pesky things like laws don't apply to them. All for the greater good and all.

[roamer_1]

Come on man!

(bad joke)

I do believe you'd enjoy "President elect" Biden with all his certainty suddenly denied the Presidency. The let down would be epic. The left came unhinged the last time around this would take it to a whole new level. I'd like to see that...

LOL! 

Yes, of course! I do love liberal tears! But now, only to a point. I am not as do or die as many here may be...

[roamer_1]

In short, lefties believe the ends justify the means. Their cause is so righteous that pesky things like laws don't apply to them. All for the greater good and all.

And in that, let's not go there ourselves 

[sneakypete]

Am I the only one noticing that the MSM  has gotten so desperate they are attaching lies to specific folks.  It's a whole new level.

@catfish1957

The Dims are doing this because it works,and they know they will never "officially" get called on it and have to explain their lies because the news media is now owned and controlled by the globalist bankers behind all this.

They also know there is a large group of "low-information voters" that get ALL their news updates from "blurbs" of one or two sentences on tv "news breaks".

It seems to have never occurred to these people that their tv's will lie to them.

Because of this they will never question what they hear,and use what they hear as the basis to pick who and what to vote for.

[sneakypete]

They did the same thing with the UPS whistleblower. They're trying to stampede the country; must mean they're worried.

@skeeter

I believe you MEANT to write "USPS whistleblower",NOT "UPS whistleblower".

The man worked for the post office,not United Parcel Service. I wrote "worked" because it seems he is now "temporarily suspended" from his job.

I suspect the "temporarily" part will disappear immediately after the Presidential swearing-in ceremony,when he will discover he no longer has a job and has lost all his insurance and other benefits. Given that he has been accused of lying under oath,he won't even be able to collect unemployment benefits.

[Hoodat]

I suspect the "temporarily" part will disappear immediately after the Presidential swearing-in ceremony,when he will discover he no longer has a job and has lost all his insurance and other benefits. Given that he has been accused of lying under oath,he won't even be able to collect unemployment benefits.

With this crowd, I see a far worse future for him.

[christian]

DB:
In short, lefties believe the ends justify the means. Their cause is so righteous that pesky things like laws don't apply to them. All for the greater good and all.

The Nazi socialist political conscience of last Century, is virtually unchanged even to todays politics.  Of Soros Nazi political hand in nations affairs, how striking unchanged the tactics are from then to now.  Vengeance and violence if they can just secure their power, as they already have openly threatened.

[jafo2010]

The ONLY METRIC for presidential elections is the Electoral College.  It does not matter how many votes Biden has more than Trump.  It just does not matter.

They announced today that Trump is dropping his lawsuit in Nevada or Arizona.  I was disappointed to hear that, but perhaps they are focusing their attention on the states with the most egregious wrongdoing.

Anyone here discounting the possibility that Trump can win this is forgetting one important thing.  The Supreme Court has a 5-4 majority on the conservative side.  Can't count on Roberts the Rat, ever!  But the SCOTUS will decide this election, particularly if Trump assembles enough evidence.

Perhaps folks here do not agree, but when a tabulating center refuses to allow access for election observers, all votes counted that day should be nullified for that day.  There is no reason to prohibit observers from complete access to verify the process and the votes.  There must be an extreme penalty for not allowing observers.  With no thought to either party, when this happens, all votes for the day should be disavowed.

Frankly, I believe Trump will win Pennsylvania.  Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia remain to be seen.  I doubt it is a 50/50 chance, but even with a 25% chance, I think he has a legitimate shot to win.  The Pookie cartoon of the Titanic(the Dems) approaching an iceberg(Supreme Court) is very appropriate.  Irrational exuberance is what I see with the corrupt media and the Democommies.  I gag every time Schumer opens his mouth.

I am 100% certain there are millions of phony ballots for Joe Biden.  If the Trump lawyers can prove that this was a systemic effort of corruption, and particularly disturbing is the software efforts to steal the election.  Every state that had electronic glitches, should have a 2nd go of the election, paper ballots only.  Schedule it for the same day as the two senate seats in GA.  The Supreme Court will lose all credibility if they allow these election results stand when it is blatant the Dems have cheated on a mass scale. 

One of two things i know will be true.  The SCOTUS nullifies many thousands of phony ballots, or they demand a 2nd election in certain battleground states, and said election to be performed via paper ballot only.  Tight controls on Absentee ballots and extreme measures with tabulation to verify integrity of the election.  This cheating has been blatant.  And like any loser in a lawsuit, the Dem Party should pay for the cost of a 2nd election.

[Hoodat]

They announced today that Trump is dropping his lawsuit in Nevada or Arizona.  I was disappointed to hear that, but perhaps they are focusing their attention on the states with the most egregious wrongdoing.

Trump dropped his lawsuit in Nevada after the state agreed to allow more GOP observers.  This was basically the gist of the suit.  But another suit filed by the Nevada GOP regarding illegal votes is still pending.