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Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
« Reply #150 on: November 12, 2020, 07:05:24 pm »
Yep. I'm just pointing out that discard rates as high as PA's might provide the buffering margin Biden needs even if the votes are switched back.

And that depends on exactly where the discard occurred.  If it was the Dominion software rejecting the ballots, that can be repaired by a full machine recount after the hooks in the software that caused the votes to be discarded are removed.  Auditors have identified the flaws, one of them involving use of "similar" concatenations of alphanumeric strings.  For example, calling an "l" an "I" or a "1."  Another example:  Switching a "O" to a "0."  That will identify a ballot with "Donald J Trump," "Dona1d J Trump."  It sees it as a mismatch and throws out the Trump vote. 

The correct paper ballot still exists, and will go back to being a Trump vote after the software is fixed and the ballots are recounted.  And they will be.
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« Reply #151 on: November 12, 2020, 07:19:44 pm »
And that depends on exactly where the discard occurred.  If it was the Dominion software rejecting the ballots, that can be repaired by a full machine recount after the hooks in the software that caused the votes to be discarded are removed.  Auditors have identified the flaws, one of them involving use of "similar" concatenations of alphanumeric strings.  For example, calling an "l" an "I" or a "1."  Another example:  Switching a "O" to a "0."  That will identify a ballot with "Donald J Trump," "Dona1d J Trump."  It sees it as a mismatch and throws out the Trump vote. 

The correct paper ballot still exists, and will go back to being a Trump vote after the software is fixed and the ballots are recounted.  And they will be.

People need to start checking the dumpsters and landfills before this gets buried...
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Re: JOE BIDEN DEFEATS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
« Reply #152 on: November 12, 2020, 07:48:51 pm »
People need to start checking the dumpsters and landfills before this gets buried...

Unfortunately, votes found in a dumpster cannot be counted.  No chain of evidence exists to make them valid.  :shrug:
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« Reply #153 on: November 12, 2020, 07:56:12 pm »
Unfortunately, votes found in a dumpster cannot be counted.  No chain of evidence exists to make them valid.  :shrug:
I was thinking more that it would be evidence of votes that were not counted and discarded to avoid a recount.
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« Reply #154 on: November 12, 2020, 08:02:23 pm »
I was thinking more that it would be evidence of votes that were not counted and discarded to avoid a recount.

Not really, for the same reason they can't be counted.  Chain of evidence.  A Trump supporter could conceivably be the one who stuffed the Dumpster....
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« Reply #155 on: November 12, 2020, 08:06:38 pm »
Not really, for the same reason they can't be counted.  Chain of evidence.  A Trump supporter could conceivably be the one who stuffed the Dumpster....
That depends on supporting evidence--any witnesses, video cameras, and the number of the ballots discarded. Site security might limit access, too. Aren't ballots indexed with code of some sort which indicates whether they are legit?
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« Reply #156 on: November 12, 2020, 08:18:40 pm »
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Today’s PA court ruling is significant not because of the amount of ballots it affects but because it sets the legal precedent that PA’s Secretary of State did not have statutory authority to override election law. Neither did PA Supreme Court. Only legislature.




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« Reply #157 on: November 12, 2020, 08:18:59 pm »
That depends on supporting evidence--any witnesses, video cameras, and the number of the ballots discarded. Site security might limit access, too. Aren't ballots indexed with code of some sort which indicates whether they are legit?

I saw a Conspiracy theory that said ballots were printed with an invisible "watermark" that proved the provenience of real ballots, but I don't buy CTs.  The ballots themselves are not serialized, they can't be in order to protect the secret ballots.  And, any other identifying marks can simply be copied along with the rest of the ballots.

I suppose microprinting, like that used on currency, could work.  People can't see them, but a good optical scanner can.  The problem with that would be the cost of printing ballots would necessarily skyrocket beyond the means of the several (50) states. 
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« Reply #158 on: November 12, 2020, 08:20:43 pm »
I saw a Conspiracy theory that said ballots were printed with an invisible "watermark" that proved the provenience of real ballots, but I don't buy CTs.  The ballots themselves are not serialized, they can't be in order to protect the secret ballots.  And, any other identifying marks can simply be copied along with the rest of the ballots.

I suppose microprinting, like that used on currency, could work.  People can't see them, but a good optical scanner can.  The problem with that would be the cost of printing ballots would necessarily skyrocket beyond the means of the several (50) states.
Don't the individual states print their own ballots, and if they do, who is typically in charge of that process?

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« Reply #159 on: November 12, 2020, 08:21:04 pm »
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« Reply #160 on: November 12, 2020, 08:23:03 pm »
Don't the individual states print their own ballots, and if they do, who is typically in charge of that process?

The Secretaries of State for the states, or a designated Agency, like a Bureau of Elections.  And yes, the states would be on the tab for the cost.
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« Reply #161 on: November 12, 2020, 08:23:36 pm »
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« Reply #162 on: November 12, 2020, 08:24:58 pm »
Sorry I forget to include it in my post @Cyber Liberty


https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1326977119696502785

Gotcha.  "Blue Check," so the tweet is legit.

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« Reply #163 on: November 12, 2020, 08:27:17 pm »
Gotcha.  "Blue Check," so the tweet is legit.

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I have a STRONG feeling that we are going to see similar things in other states as well soon.
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« Reply #164 on: November 12, 2020, 08:39:16 pm »
I have a STRONG feeling that we are going to see similar things in other states as well soon.

Isn't his one just a reiteration of Alito's order from the SCOTUS?  If they're willing to ignore a SCOTUS order, ignoring an order from the PA Supremes would be child's play.  Call me a cynic.  333cleo 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo
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« Reply #165 on: November 12, 2020, 08:40:40 pm »


"All we really have to do is get shoulder to  shoulder,along with battery-powered grinders to cut the bars in the fences,and march into the WH  to stop it."

You will be shot/killed.

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« Reply #166 on: November 12, 2020, 08:46:42 pm »
Pa. appellate court sides with Trump in fight over ID deadlines for voters, tossing small number of ballots
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« Reply #167 on: November 12, 2020, 08:47:08 pm »

"All we really have to do is get shoulder to  shoulder,along with battery-powered grinders to cut the bars in the fences,and march into the WH  to stop it."

You will be shot/killed.

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« Reply #168 on: November 12, 2020, 08:48:08 pm »
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« Reply #170 on: November 12, 2020, 11:01:48 pm »

"All we really have to do is get shoulder to  shoulder,along with battery-powered grinders to cut the bars in the fences,and march into the WH  to stop it."

You will be shot/killed.

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Not if we are unarmed. Or at least not shot by the "badges" if we are unarmed.
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« Reply #171 on: November 12, 2020, 11:11:36 pm »
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Not if we are unarmed. Or at least not shot by the "badges" if we are unarmed.

Yes, if you are "disarmed."  the SS doesn't buy into that "Cop shoots unarmed man" bullshit.  If you are there after being ordered off the property, they'll assume you are a threat to the President even if you are stark naked.  Bang!
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« Reply #172 on: November 12, 2020, 11:28:14 pm »
Yes, if you are "disarmed."  the SS doesn't buy into that "Cop shoots unarmed man" bullshit.  If you are there after being ordered off the property, they'll assume you are a threat to the President even if you are stark naked.  Bang!

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WRONG!

Their job is not to fight gunbattles or to attack trespassers.

Their job is to protect the President,and they will do this by removing him from any area where they consider him to be in danger.

The best way to make sure your principle survives a gun fight is to make sure he is never where one is happening.

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« Reply #173 on: November 12, 2020, 11:36:02 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

WRONG!

Their job is not to fight gunbattles or to attack trespassers.

Their job is to protect the President,and they will do this by removing him from any area where they consider him to be in danger.

The best way to make sure your principle survives a gun fight is to make sure he is never where one is happening.

I don't require your approval on this.  Just try it.  These are people who burn the President's poop to keep anybody from gleaning his DNA.  An intruder could be armed with a deadly virus.  These are the things they "war game" out.  This is no longer the world it was when you were in SF.
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« Reply #174 on: November 13, 2020, 12:30:56 am »
I don't require your approval on this.  Just try it.  These are people who burn the President's poop to keep anybody from gleaning his DNA.  An intruder could be armed with a deadly virus.  These are the things they "war game" out.  This is no longer the world it was when you were in SF.

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None of which has any relation at all to what I stated to be their prime concern.
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