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November 7, 2020
When Establishment Republicans Tell You This Election Was on the Level, Do You Believe Them?
By J.B. Shurk

Donald Trump had a phenomenal night on Tuesday.  He received five million more votes than in 2016, expanded his support from minority voters, and lifted Republican House candidates and state legislatures across the country to victory.  Republicans won almost everywhere, and the president's vote leads in battleground states seemed insurmountable and secured.  A wall of voters showed up for the president in order to prevail over a "margin of fraud" universally expected by Trump's base.  In any other election year, Biden would have conceded by 9 P.M.  Instead, the news media refused to call races for the president, Democrats continued to inject uncontrolled mail-in ballots into the count, and Democrat-governed states turned a Trump landslide into a loss.  In other words, about the only Republican who ended up losing in 2020 is the only Republican responsible for getting voters to turn out in the first place.  That sure makes sense.

The good thing is that we can trust the outcome of the election to be legitimate because really honorable people have told me so.  I heard Ben Sasse and Pat Toomey assure me that if the Democrats had committed voting fraud, those same Democrats would have reported themselves by now.  That must be true.  Mitt Romney has argued for six months that millions of unsolicited mail-in ballots without voter identification or signature requirements would never be used for fraudulent purposes, and why wouldn't I believe Mitt Romney?  He was the only Republican, after all, with so much moral backbone that he voted to remove the president for his opponents' crimes.  That guy is above reproach. 

I saw the major news networks cut away from live remarks by the president of the United States because he was questioning how his leads in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Michigan could disappear in the middle of the night with unexplained vote dumps for his opponent.  The same media establishment that has spent four years calling the 2016 election stolen and illegitimate is worried that Americans might believe that the 2020 election is stolen and illegitimate.  Nothing strange about that.  It's the media's job to decide what we hear and how we think, and I certainly have no right to consider conflicting opinions from the elected president.  Mika Brzezinski told me that once.  Television journalists are like brave firefighters running into burning buildings on our behalf, so whatever evidence they choose to burn in the process should totally be left to their discretion.  They may be Democrats, and they may have all fallen for the Democrats' Russia disinformation hoax for four solid years, but they definitely don't take sides.  They've said so. 

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I see a lot of discrepancies, but not proof of outright fraud. We'll see what this MI commission finds.

I see a bunch of Trump supporters sharing the same debunked crap all over social media.
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I see a lot of discrepancies, but not proof of outright fraud. We'll see what this MI commission finds.

I see a bunch of Trump supporters sharing the same debunked crap all over social media.

No proof of outright fraud?  RU joking?  What about all those precincts that had more voters than people in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania?

Just because there were no eyewitnesses doesn't mean there isn't proof.  People have gone to jail on circumstantial evidence.  People who are not versed in court procedures think circumstantial evidence is worthless, and that is simply not true.

A good example of this kind of evidence was posited by G. Gordon Liddy many years ago:  If when you go to bed and you can see the grass in your lawn, then find the lawn under 3" of snow the next morning, that's proof that it snowed, even if you did not actually see it snowing overnight.
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I see a lot of discrepancies, but not proof of outright fraud. We'll see what this MI commission finds.

I see a bunch of Trump supporters sharing the same debunked crap all over social media.

No proof?   So what is your explanation for why those five leftist states all stopped counting votes on election night.... supposedly.....and sent observers home for the night (never been done before, btw).... and then resumed "counting" in the middle of the night...when nobody on the Trump side could witness what they were doing.
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No proof?   So what is your explanation for why those five leftist states all stopped counting votes on election night.... supposedly.....and sent observers home for the night (never been done before, btw).... and then resumed "counting" in the middle of the night...when nobody on the Trump side could witness what they were doing.


If the Parties were reversed, every journalist in America would be looking high and low for evidence of cheating.    Just as they were looking for Gore votes in Florida.

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If the Parties were reversed, every journalist in America would be looking high and low for evidence of cheating.    Just as they were looking for Gore votes in Florida.

Instead, the lamestream media whores are all invoking the same chant...."no evidence of fraud".   There's plenty of evidence and proof, but since when does facts, truth and reality ever matter to the idiot/radical left.
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It's been going on since 2004 (revenge for losing in 2000 if you ask me) and only now—when all the issues we complained about for over a decade were magnified under the scrutiny of a presidential election—has anyone paid attention. Unfortunately, the press is complicit in the conspiracy in pooh-poohing the longstanding issues.
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It's been going on since 2004 (revenge for losing in 2000 if you ask me) and only now—when all the issues we complained about for over a decade were magnified under the scrutiny of a presidential election—has anyone paid attention. Unfortunately, the press is complicit in the conspiracy in pooh-poohing the longstanding issues.

Were you one of those folks who, in 2000, called Bush "selected, not elected?"  Sure sounds like you fell for that BS.
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I've looked back a 100 years of elections, and can not seem to find any examples of reversed coattails.

Just sayin'
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Were you one of those folks who, in 2000, called Bush "selected, not elected?"  Sure sounds like you fell for that BS.
I was still a kid back then. I had loosely followed politics back then but I didn't really form a full and coherent ideology until a couple of years later.
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I've looked back a 100 years of elections, and can not seem to find any examples of reversed coattails.

Just sayin'
It was noted that Trump got more votes in 2020 than any past candidate. So we're to believe that Biden all of a sudden got millions more than that from mail-ins? It doesn't add up.
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I was still a kid back then. I had loosely followed politics back then but I didn't really form a full and coherent ideology until a couple of years later.

I see your point, and I admit I passed over the fact that was a 20-year younger version of the Myrle I've come to know and love!   :beer: :beer:
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It was noted that Trump got more votes in 2020 than any past candidate. So we're to believe that Biden all of a sudden got millions more than that from mail-ins? It doesn't add up.

Oh, I think it's possible, but I file this under "extremely unlikely." :smokin:
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Oh, I think it's possible, but I file this under "extremely unlikely." :smokin:

If you lurk at the left leaning sites, there was plenty of discussion of they "the left" would do anything, I mean anything to unseat Trump. Seems we are seeing those "anything" efforts coming to fruition.
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If you lurk at the left leaning sites, there was plenty of discussion of they "the left" would do anything, I mean anything to unseat Trump. Seems we are seeing those "anything" efforts coming to fruition.

I'm comfortable the Rats being as stressed as we are about this election.  I'm sure they feel better that Fox, CNN, et al have called the entire election this morning for Sloe Joe.  I'm looking forward to their tears when they lose the recounts and other challenges.  My big hope is the authorities agree, and don't put Rat politics before their sworn duty.
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catfish wrote:
"If you lurk at the left leaning sites, there was plenty of discussion of they "the left" would do anything, I mean anything to unseat Trump. Seems we are seeing those "anything" efforts coming to fruition."

What the democrat-communists have perfected in 2020, they are going to use with a vengeance from now on.

Every "voting reform" that has been put into place in most of the states, was but a precursor to and foundation upon which to build their "fraud machine".

And "a machine" it has become.
This time, they aimed at -- and it looks like they got -- the president.
But NEXT time, it will not only be the White House they go after, but every Senator and Congressman.

There was a time when "if it wasn't close, they couldn't cheat".
That time... is over and done.

Now, with the "tools" that "election reform" has provided them, they can and will take aim at almost ANY contest they wish...

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I'm comfortable the Rats being as stressed as we are about this election.  I'm sure they feel better that Fox, CNN, et al have called the entire election this morning for Sloe Joe.  I'm looking forward to their tears when they lose the recounts and other challenges.  My big hope is the authorities agree, and don't put Rat politics before their sworn duty.

I really admire your optimism.  But I think the fix is in, at so many levels that it is a runaway train.
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I really admire your optimism.  But I think the fix is in, at so many levels that it is a runaway train.

If that happens, literally every Trump supporter in the country will want to walk away.  The Pubbies will be gone as a political power, and they'll never think to look at their own actions.  If Trump really were to form a third party, it can win in '24.
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If the Parties were reversed, every journalist in America would be looking high and low for evidence of cheating.    Just as they were looking for Gore votes in Florida.
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When Establishment Republicans Tell Me...

I believe there are far too many Rinos left in the Republican party.
They have sold out for something. Maybe it is just a quiet evening.
Or, they could be dullards.

Whatever, I disconnect from them.





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If that happens, literally every Trump supporter in the country will want to walk away.  The Pubbies will be gone as a political power, and they'll never think to look at their own actions.  If Trump really were to form a third party, it can win in '24.

You want to know why the Democrats and Never Trumpers are upset?   Because Trump was not repudiated in the least.  In fact, he has strengthened his grip on the GOP.  Why do you think The Lincoln Project is telling people to vote for Democrats?   They know the GOPe's day is over, and Trump has won the war for the heart and soul of the GOP, and that's regardless of how this election turned out.   Trump is the Kingmaker of the GOP now.   

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When Establishment Republicans Tell Me...

I believe there are far too many Rinos left in the Republican party.
They have sold out for something. Maybe it is just a quiet evening.
Or, they could be dullards.

Whatever, I disconnect from them.

Most likely they want to preserve their spot at the DC slop trough.

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