Infections disease expert warns France has 'lost control' of coronavirus pandemic

[PeteS in CA]

Infections disease expert warns France has 'lost control' of coronavirus pandemic

https://www.foxnews.com/world/infections-disease-expert-warns-france-has-lost-control-of-coronavirus-pandemic-curfew-imposed

PARIS – Virus patients now occupy more than half of France’s intensive care units, and some doctors are urging tougher restrictions after another record jump in confirmed infections.

Dr. Jean-Francois Delfraissy, head of the government’s virus advisory body, expressed surprise Monday at the “brutality” of the rise, after more than 52,000 new cases were reported Sunday.
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The number of people hospitalized in France with the virus has climbed sharply in recent weeks, putting renewed pressure on ICUs. COVID patients now fill more than two-thirds of the ICUs in the Paris region.

Re the ~52K new cases for Sunday, keep in mind that France's population is ~1/5 that of the US. That 52K in France would be like 260K in the US.

[rustynail]

This could be a good thing considering that a virus is going

to do what a virus is going to do.

[Fishrrman]

I wonder to what extent the virus is spreading within the islamic enclaves and banlieus of France? I sense they are either contemptuous or simply ignorant of efforts to contain the spread of covid, perhaps flaunting them totally.

[Sir Bohort]

Muslim leaders urge Muslims to neither take vaccines nor use alcohol disinfectants because they believe them to be haram.  Perhaps that is why they have a higher covid mortality rate.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/muslim-males-have-highest-covid-19-mortality-rates-among-religious-groups/ar-BB15HWkG

At a mortality rate of 198.9/100,000 covid is not going to make a dent in the Muslim occupation of Europe.  Mother Nature is not going to solve the European's problem.  They will either have to resist or submit.  Muslim doctrine does not permit peaceful coeexistence as equals.

[Wingnut]

A couple million muslum dead by the rona might be a plus for the world.  Just say'n

[LMAO]

Biden has a plan to get control of the virus. I saw his commercials claiming such. He should sit down with European leaders and guide them through this crisis

[Hoodat]

Re the ~52K new cases for Sunday, keep in mind that France's population is ~1/5 that of the US. That 52K in France would be like 260K in the US.

France would need an additional 580k cases to catch up with US levels.  We are closer to herd immunity than they are.

[LegalAmerican]

Muslim leaders urge Muslims to neither take vaccines nor use alcohol disinfectants because they believe them to be haram.  Perhaps that is why they have a higher covid mortality rate.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/muslim-males-have-highest-covid-19-mortality-rates-among-religious-groups/ar-BB15HWkG

At a mortality rate of 198.9/100,000 covid is not going to make a dent in the Muslim occupation of Europe.  Mother Nature is not going to solve the European's problem.  They will either have to resist or submit.  Muslim doctrine does not permit peaceful coeexistence as equals.

True.  Welcome.  As a woman, I do not support SHARIA LAW.  I know too much about it!   

[PeteS in CA]

France would need an additional 580k cases to catch up with US levels.  We are closer to herd immunity than they are.

It is very possible that EuroLand's tighter shutdowns put EuroLand behind the US in that natural process and the greater severity (at this point) of their current wave of new cases and deaths is a consequence.

Given that this current large-scale wave is happening in multiple EuroLand countries, I doubt the the bogey-Muslims are a significantly disproportionate share of the wave.

[Hoodat]

It is very possible that EuroLand's tighter shutdowns put EuroLand behind the US in that natural process and the greater severity (at this point) of their current wave of new cases and deaths is a consequence.

It is a certainty.  In the end, nature will collect its casualties no matter what we do to delay it.  Unfortunately, governmental efforts to delay the inevitable have resulted in unnecessary casualties in other areas such as denied medical procedures and preventative monitoring as well as depression and suicides.

[Hoodat]

Given that this current large-scale wave is happening in multiple EuroLand countries, I doubt the the bogey-Muslims are a significantly disproportionate share of the wave.

Agreed.  Coronavirus does not target religious beliefs.

[mountaineer]

Dr. David Samadi, MD  @drdavidsamadi
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I was talking about Sweden 8 months ago and I was right.
Western Europe was called "the gold standard" by the US media and Sweden was panned. Look at the numbers. Look at where Sweden is. Look at the rest of Europe. Seems like Sweden has the recipe!

9:01 AM · Oct 31, 2020

[PeteS in CA]

If one looks at the Daily Deaths chart on this page, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/ , a little more than half way down the page, daily deaths in October were a bit higher in October than in September, but not a lot higher.

As a comparison, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/ , France's daily deaths started increasing in September and may still be increasing. UK, Italy, and Belgium are similar.

[skeeter]

This could be a good thing considering that a virus is going

to do what a virus is going to do.

My thoughts as well. France should be thankful - a few weeks and the 'Vid will no longer be of concern to them.

[mountaineer]

Social distancing measures put in place for the Covid-19 pandemic 'will trigger a surge in FLU cases next winter' because fewer people have been exposed to the seasonal virus

    Princeton scientists studied impact of Covid-19 measures on other viruses 
    Found masks and social distancing lased infection of flu and RSV by 20%
    This will create more people who are susceptible to the viruses in future
    Will be a spike in number of non-Covid flu cases in winter 2021-2022

By Joe Pinkstone For Mailonline
Published: 09:51 EST, 10 November 2020 | Updated: 13:33 EST, 10 November 2020

... So-called non-pharmaceutical interventions – behavioural changes which curb the spread of disease – have been in force for much of 2020. They include wearing face masks and social distancing.

These measures have not only helped to break the chain of transmission for Covid-19, but have also slashed infection rates of other diseases. As a result, seasonal influenza and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) have infected a fifth fewer people in the United States in 2020 than in an average year, data shows, a. 

However, researchers caution that this apparent bonus will have a knock-on impact in the coming years, because it increases the pool of susceptible people. ... Daily Mail

[Wingnut]

All those "experts" you see in front of the camera? Yeah, there's a reason they have time to do interviews and talk shows. The real deals are back there in the labs, trials, clinics, and hospitals doing what they have trained years and years for. Not be talking heads.

[PeteS in CA]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-france-infections/frances-covid-19-hospitalisations-closing-in-on-april-record-idUSKBN27P2I2

France's COVID-19 hospitalisations closing in on April record

PARIS (Reuters) - France’s new COVID-19 infections were sharply down over 24 hours on Monday, as they always tend to do at the beginning of the week, but deaths and hospitalisations linked to the disease were sharply up again.

And while the country’s health director acknowledged the main French cities put under curfew mid-October were starting to see a lesser spread of the disease, he stressed the peak of the coronavirus pandemic was still to come.

“We are at a crucial moment,” Jerome Salomon told a news conference, as France was already more than 10 days in its second national lockdown aimed at reining in the virus.