No, Shutting Down Another Stimulus Won’t Cost Trump The Election

[mystery-ak]

 No, Shutting Down Another Stimulus Won’t Cost Trump The Election

What makes Trump look worse before the election: trying to get a deal with no success, or pointing out that the other side doesn’t want a deal for political reasons and pulling out of talks?

By Willis L. Krumholz
October 7, 2020

President Trump announced on Twitter that he was shutting down stimulus talks with Democrats until after the election because they were “not negotiating in good faith.” “Pelosi is asking for $2.4 Trillion Dollars to bailout poorly run, high crime, Democrat States, money that is in no way related to COVID-19,” wrote Trump.

The president continued: “Immediately after I win, we will pass a major Stimulus Bill that focuses on hardworking Americans and Small Business.” Instead, Trump is asking Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to focus on the Amy Coney Barrett Supreme Court nomination in the month before the election.

The criticism started immediately. Corporate media scoffed that now it would look like the lack of a stimulus was all Trump’s fault. Conservatives, especially of the nationalist conservative variety, were quick to criticize Trump for not making a deal with Democrats and for hinting at fiscal conservatism. The key theme was that Trump ending talks with Pelosi would cost him the election.

The criticism is wrongheaded, and a classic example of D.C.-think versus what works in the real world. The disagreement between the White House and House Democrats has little to do with “fiscal conservatism” (which has been dead in D.C. since the halcyon 1950s) or the total dollar amount of proposed spending, and much more to do with what the money does or doesn’t do.

Of course, the situation is fluid and Trump could reverse course within the week—it’s a classic Trump move to end talks only to restart them again. But as of now shutting down talks is the right move and won’t cost Trump the election.

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[catfish1957]

2012 taught me that the entitlement faction slugs residing on the left hind teat of the Fedzilla Hog controls the electorate lever

In principle, I absolutely understand and support any effort which prevents our government spending any money.

OTOH, the slugs have to have their check to live month to month.  Sad Sad Sad state in this country,

[RedHead]

Will it cost him the election alone?  No.  But it's a campaign issue for the Democrats and that's all they wanted to begin with.  The worst thing Trump could have done to them is agree to support their bill.

[kevindavis007]

Will it cost him the election alone?  No.  But it's a campaign issue for the Democrats and that's all they wanted to begin with.  The worst thing Trump could have done to them is agree to support their bill.

But it will also hurt the dems in non safe Districts as well..

[skeeter]

Will it cost him the election alone?  No.  But it's a campaign issue for the Democrats and that's all they wanted to begin with.  The worst thing Trump could have done to them is agree to support their bill.

Exactly how will this hurt him outside of states that are already dark blue, which would far and away be the biggest beneficiaries of another 2.5 trillion dollar bailout?

These states are holding their own citizens hostage. Trump agreeing with Pelosi is tantamount to paying ransom to kidnappers.

[RedHead]

But it will also hurt the dems in non safe Districts as well..

It could have had negotiations continued.  Pelosi was already getting some heat from some in her party about her refusal to compromise.  But with Trump calling off the negotiations completely that just handed her the win in that area.  They can say that negotiations had been progressing but Trump went and ended them.

[RedHead]

Exactly how will this hurt him outside of states that are already dark blue, which would far and away be the biggest beneficiaries of another 2.5 trillion dollar bailout?

These states are holding their own citizens hostage. Trump agreeing with Pelosi is tantamount to paying ransom to kidnappers.

There are a lot of unemployed people out there that would have benefitted from the bill.  A lot of employed people who will soon be unemployed because the bailout for airlines and other industries are no longer there.  A lot of small businesses who would have benefitted from this bill.  A lot of people suffering because of COVID who would have benefitted from this bill.  And they're all in red states and blue states.

[kevindavis007]

It could have had negotiations continued.  Pelosi was already getting some heat from some in her party about her refusal to compromise.  But with Trump calling off the negotiations completely that just handed her the win in that area.  They can say that negotiations had been progressing but Trump went and ended them.

From what I'm seeing she still is.

[skeeter]

There are a lot of unemployed people out there that would have benefitted from the bill.  A lot of employed people who will soon be unemployed because the bailout for airlines and other industries are no longer there.  A lot of small businesses who would have benefitted from this bill.  A lot of people suffering because of COVID who would have benefitted from this bill.  And they're all in red states and blue states.

And to them Trump is offering a clean stimulus bill without the BS blue state bailout.

If this incident loses him votes these votes were gone anyway. He's never gonna get a break from the media.

[Absalom]

Hmm......................won't cost Trump the election???
Actually the election has been over for some time as the
Rasmussen, Gallup, WSJ and Zogby Polls, confirm daily.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Hmm......................won't cost Trump the election???
Actually the election has been over for some time as the
Rasmussen, Gallup, WSJ and Zogby Polls, confirm daily.

I guess I never saw that the Constitution permits pollsters to elect our Presidents.