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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2020, 03:00:53 pm »
Yeah, because voting for president is all about you.

According to Adam Smith, yes.  A person will always choose for their own self interest.
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2020, 03:01:20 pm »
You’re in the minority. Most republicans—the only home for conservatives at this time—is solidly in support of Trump. That means that according to most religious, cultural, fiscal, defense and fair trade conservatives support the republicans’ conservative candidate, Trump.

I know, I know. You’re just a special conservative.

No, most conservatives left the Republican party way back. There are more conservative independents than there are Conservative Republicans.

And even if I stood alone - No sh*ts given. Conservatism is not a team sport. And nether is voting.
I consider my vote a solemnity. My endorsement only has value if it is true.

and my true endorsement resides only in one who has satisfied ALL the immovable principles of the major conservative factions - An impossible bar for your boy.

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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2020, 03:05:35 pm »
Anyone who supports open and free elections is willing to let the winner of said election become president.  As for the reason, I would assume it has more to do with the expansion of government and skyrocketing debt than it does with Trump's style.


YEP. Transgressing fiscal principles can be forgiven to a degree - That degree is well south of FIFTEEN FRIGGIN TRILLION DOLLARS.

No sale, no how.

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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2020, 03:55:33 pm »
@sneakypete

Six of one, half dozen of the other... So no dances one way or the other. I told you I have no dog in this hunt.

@roamer_1

My apologies. I thought you were an America living in America.
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2020, 03:58:07 pm »
You’re in the minority. Most republicans—the only home for conservatives at this time—is solidly in support of Trump. That means that according to most religious, cultural, fiscal, defense and fair trade conservatives support the republicans’ conservative candidate, Trump.

I know, I know. You’re just a special conservative.

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That's not it. In his mind he thinks he is living in the 19th Century,and that nothing that happens a hundred miles away from his immediate location is relevant because it won't affect him.
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2020, 04:00:37 pm »
Anyone who supports open and free elections is willing to let the winner of said election become president.   

@Hoodat

You mean the election has already been held,and there has been a winner sworn in?

Why did no one tell me?
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2020, 04:04:22 pm »
According to Adam Smith, yes.  A person will always choose for their own self interest.

@Hoodat

Adam Smith was a fool,and so is anyone that follows a fools advise.

If that were true,I would have never voted.

Nor would have many others. Maybe even MOST others,for all I know.

We are imperfect people living in an imperfect world,and because of this we have to either vote for imperfect candidates that reflect OUR viewpoints OR lean towards OUR POV more than his or her opponent in the hope it will start a shift in politics that goes more our way than not.

What do most of the people do on the planet you come from?
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2020, 04:06:37 pm »
No, most conservatives left the Republican party way back. There are more conservative independents than there are Conservative Republicans.

 

@roamer_1

True,and the sane ones vote for the Republican candidate because that is always the MOST conservative of the two or more candidates,and it helps push things in a conservative direction.

The ones who don't do this are delusional. 
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2020, 04:16:00 pm »
@roamer_1

True,and the sane ones vote for the Republican candidate because that is always the MOST conservative of the two or more candidates,and it helps push things in a conservative direction.

The ones who don't do this are delusional.

@sneakypete
There is NOTHING conservative left in the Republican party. If there was, I would still BE a Republican, and my vote would come easy. That is not the case.

What would be delusional would be to vote for what I don't want to prevent someone else I don't want from winning. Go ahead. Try and tell me again why a sh*t sandwich is better than a turd burger...

Try and make that a reasoned argument.
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2020, 04:20:37 pm »
@aligncare   @roamer_1

That's not it. In his mind he thinks he is living in the 19th Century,and that nothing that happens a hundred miles away from his immediate location is relevant because it won't affect him.

Oh FIFTEEN FRIGGIN TRILLION DOLLARS is affecting me alright. So is shutting the whole damn country down over the sniffles. It ain't the Democrats that shut it off.. That was Tumpy. Utterly unforgivable.


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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2020, 04:37:39 pm »
Oh FIFTEEN FRIGGIN TRILLION DOLLARS is affecting me alright. So is shutting the whole damn country down over the sniffles. It ain't the Democrats that shut it off.. That was Tumpy. Utterly unforgivable.

@roamer_1

WOW! And all that was Trumps idea,huh?

You really need to get out more.
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2020, 04:38:53 pm »
@roamer_1

WOW! And all that was Trumps idea,huh?

You really need to get out more.

It's got his name on the bottom line. So yeah.

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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2020, 04:45:59 pm »
It's got his name on the bottom line. So yeah.

@roamer_1

Maybe we should just fire all those Congressional and Senatorial people,and send them home because our Supreme Leader for Life can handle all that,huh
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2020, 04:48:31 pm »
@roamer_1

Maybe we should just fire all those Congressional and Senatorial people,and send them home because our Supreme Leader for Life can handle all that,huh

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Right. I am all for firing ALL of them. When you get there, call me up. But you'll never get there...Y'all never do.


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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2020, 04:55:43 pm »
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Right. I am all for firing ALL of them. When you get there, call me up. But you'll never get there...Y'all never do.

@roamer_1

That's because most of us want a representative government,not a government with a "Maximum Leader".
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2020, 05:24:19 pm »
A great president once said that elections are a time of choosing. And I say, deliberately not choosing, withholding your franchise, only gives the democrats, the counterrevolution with their schemes of voter fraud, voter intimidation and voter disinformation, one more vote on Election Day—your tossed aside vote.

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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2020, 05:44:22 pm »
Anyone who supports open and free elections is willing to let the winner of said election become president.  As for the reason, I would assume it has more to do with the expansion of government and skyrocketing debt than it does with Trump's style.

As one who has crossed over, I still have respect for anyone who applies reason and critical thought to their decision.   And I can guarantee that @roamer_1 has done so.

A vote for 'Neither' is exactly that.  It should never be construed as a vote for Biden.
   

   Thanks for that breath of fresh air @Hoodat
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2020, 05:47:16 pm »
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2020, 06:12:32 pm »
Oh FIFTEEN FRIGGIN TRILLION DOLLARS is affecting me alright. So is shutting the whole damn country down over the sniffles. It ain't the Democrats that shut it off.. That was Tumpy. Utterly unforgivable.

Sorry Roamer, its a runaway train.  And you very well know I am the biggest deficit hawk on this forum. 

Yes, it is gloom and doom, but a vote for Biden/AOC only accelerates the matter.

My objecitves since March?  Gold and Silver. 
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2020, 05:38:41 am »
@roamer_1

That's because most of us want a representative government,not a government with a "Maximum Leader".

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Funny that, Sneaks... Because it don't look that way. Your Dear Leader can't get a damn thing done, written in LAW so it will stick, BECAUSE y'all ain't paying no mind to rank and file elected.

It is a TWO THIRDS REPUBLICAN government that is spending out of control and shutting down the country. And due to your (all y'all) fear of Democrats, not a damn one of em will get any comeuppance.

Throw ALL the bastards out. They are taking your freedom and stealing your treasure.

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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2020, 05:43:24 am »
Sorry Roamer, its a runaway train.  And you very well know I am the biggest deficit hawk on this forum. 

Yes, it is gloom and doom, but a vote for Biden/AOC only accelerates the matter.

My objecitves since March?  Gold and Silver.



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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2020, 05:44:36 am »
A great president once said that elections are a time of choosing. And I say, deliberately not choosing, withholding your franchise, only gives the democrats, the counterrevolution with their schemes of voter fraud, voter intimidation and voter disinformation, one more vote on Election Day—your tossed aside vote.

Nah... When both choices are crap the only reasonable choice is not to play.

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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2020, 11:01:12 am »


"A person often meets his destiny on the road he took to avoid it." - Jean de La Fontaine


You are acting like there is an alternative.  Provide a solution, or avoid snark quotes that have zilch applicability
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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2020, 11:38:30 am »
You are acting like there is an alternative.  Provide a solution, or avoid snark quotes that have zilch applicability

It is not snark. Your choice is between Marxist globalists or corporate socialist globalists. Go ahead. Choose.

As for me, I will not. I will give my endorsement to those who deserve it. That falls within the distinct parameters of principled conservatism, because within those parameters globalism cannot survive... And neither can Marxism/Socialism.

What is missing is opposition. The false choice is preventing opposition, as it has all the way along.

Marxism cannot exist without central control of government And corporate cronyism cannot exist in federalism, where a central government does not have the wherewithal to rule with summary decrees - The principles of Conservatism, of civil-libertarianism and fiscal conservatism wholly prevent all of it from existing. Ergo, it is counter-productive entirely to lend your endorsement to the continuation of anything else. Because in endorsing either current choice continues both, shading out the opposition which liberty demands.

My vote for a Constitution Party candidate, or my abstinence, either one, is better than endorsing the continued Kabuki theater, and promotes opposition. To BOTH. As it should be.

All Y'all are doing nothing different than the Bushies or the McCainiacs, or the Romneyites...  All hyphenated 'conservatisims' that eliminated principle things - And the things not done were the things that pushed socialism forward, without opposition... In fact often defended by the right.

And thus it comes, lauded in the cacophony raised by both sides, upending the very things that both sides stand for.

As I said, the only winning move is not to play. It does not matter which side wins - Liberty will suffer either way... What must come is opposition. REAL opposition, according to Conservatism's principles.

In that I will happily lend my vote, and my livelihood, and my treasure. ANYTHING LESS is doing nothing anyway.

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Re: Republican Tuberville Headed for Big Win in Alabama Senate Race
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2020, 02:05:57 pm »
@sneakypete

Funny that, Sneaks... Because it don't look that way. Your Dear Leader can't get a damn thing done, written in LAW so it will stick, BECAUSE y'all ain't paying no mind to rank and file elected.

It is a TWO THIRDS REPUBLICAN government that is spending out of control and shutting down the country. And due to your (all y'all) fear of Democrats, not a damn one of em will get any comeuppance.

Throw ALL the bastards out. They are taking your freedom and stealing your treasure.

Demand statesmen, and eventually you will get statesmen.

@roamer_1

Soooo,you think anarchy is the answer!

Good to know.

BTW,you ain't fooling anybody. You were hating on Trump before he was even elected. You hate him because he is a Billionaire,and you aren't.
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