The debate? Trump was great, Chris Wallace was a dreadful disgrace

[Right_in_Virginia]

The debate? Trump was great, Chris Wallace was a dreadful disgrace
American Thinker, Sep 30, 2020, Patricia McCarthy

Wallace’s performance was as Biden’s protector, his advocate, and that is undeniable.  He stepped in at every moment Biden seemed lost: court-packing, lack of support of law enforcement, and Hunter’s criminality.

The debate was so poorly managed.  The questions were designed to aid Biden, to coddle him.  No wonder Trump felt duty-bound to interrupt.  Trump was debating both Wallace and Biden and only one of them is sentient. 

Wallace’s intent was clear – sabotage Trump.  Wallace succeeded only in looking like the stooge he is.

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Trump made important points, all of which Wallace tried to mitigate:  Voter fraud is real and is being perpetrated by Democrats throughout the country.

Biden tried to insist that the violence being visited upon Democrat-run cities across the nation was by white supremacist groups, a total lie that Wallace let stand. 

Biden is looking forward to shutting down the economy for COVID and implementing a mask mandate.   

Biden is not supported by law enforcement anywhere in the country for obvious reasons and Obamacare was and remains a disaster.   

Climate change!  Who on earth at this moment in time thinks this is an important topic for discussion?  No one but the moonbat Greta Thunbergs of the climanistas.  No one.  Biden’s green new deal would put millions of Americans who work in the fuel industry out of work.



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[Right_in_Virginia]

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Why no questions on school choice?  On the border and illegal immigration which Biden supports?  On the necessity of ending the lockdowns that have caused much more death and destruction than COVID?  On the Biden “I am the Democratic Party right now”? On his family’s mysteriously ill-gotten wealth in the multi-millions?  Wallace was not going to let any of those issues come to the fore. 

[RedHead]

Someone called it "the Clusterf*ck in Cleveland".  That about sums it up.

[bigheadfred]

Trump was debating both Wallace and Biden and only one of them is sentient.

True. Trump is the only sentient one.

What is confusing to me is which of the other two is the lying dog-faced pony soldier and which is the doddering fool? Or are they the same trash litter?

[bigheadfred]

Someone called it "the Clusterf*ck in Cleveland".  That about sums it up.

And I missed it. 

[Lando Lincoln]

Wallace was disgraceful in so many ways.  Patricia McCarthy is spot on.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Wallace was disgraceful in so many ways.  Patricia McCarthy is spot on.

Agree @Lando Lincoln .  Wallace was a disgrace.  But in spite of Wallace's assist, many on Al Gore's magnificent Internet are saying Biden came in third.   

Even if the road was bumpy, the outcome was very good.  Historically, incumbent Presidents flop dramatically in the first debate.  The dynamics almost demand it --- the incumbent is on defense for the duration.  Think back to Bush 43's first debate as an incumbent--there was a great deal of angst and handwringing afterwards.  Or Obama's first debate as an incumbent ... many thought Romney had won not just the debate, but the election.  Heck, even Ronald Reagan blew his first incumbent debate --- and he later admitted it.

This debate was Biden's to lose--everything aligned for his victory.  But people are talking about a raucous debate ... not a victorious Biden. Last night Biden lost his best shot at winning a debate. 

Biden's plan failed.  With Wallace's help, Biden was to do to Donald Trump what he had done to Paul Ryan. But the President had other plans and Biden got better than he gave.

My fear going into this debate was Biden's plan would work.  But after watching it methinks the President's debate peppers ended with:  "Be Trump".    This was very good advice.   

[AL]

Wallace was disgraceful in so many ways.  Patricia McCarthy is spot on.

Boy I'll agree, Wallace was a disgrace.  Biden was an even worse disgrace.  Fox needs to dump Wallace.  American Patriots need to dump Biden.

[RedHead]

Agree @Lando Lincoln . 

This debate was Biden's to lose--everything aligned for his victory.  But people are talking about a raucous debate ... not a victorious Biden. Last night Biden lost his best shot at winning a debate. 

And yet Biden wasn't drooling on his lectern, meandering aimlessly, or wandering around the stage in a demented funk.  Considering those were the expectations that were set then he certainly beat them.  And in that he won. 

Trump was, as you say, vintage Trump.  For better or worse.  Last night he gave his core supporters a performance showing why they support him but did he give those voters still on the fence about the candidates, assuming there still are any, reason to join his campaign?  I don't know.  Time will tell.

[andy58-in-nh]

Someone called it "the Clusterf*ck in Cleveland".  That about sums it up.

That's just about how I saw it. It was a complete clown show, a disgrace to the very idea of public debate.

Beyond the initial Two Minute statement "rule", which turned out to be only a premise, the format appeared intentionally absent of structure and boundaries.

What remained were two men mumbling, scoffing and shouting over each other, and repeatedly interrupting the moderator, whose role it appeared to be to ask mockingly tendentious and hostile questions to one, lovingly favorable questions to the other and pretend to be annoyed when a verbal food fight broke out, without any buzzers or timers or any semblance of rules to limit what could be said, or when, or to whom.

I thought Trump got the better of it on balance, but the whole enterprise was so undignified and dumb that it made me wonder why the hell anyone would want to watch it. 

[Lando Lincoln]

@Right_in_Virginia

Excellent comments. Prior to the debate, I said to Mrs. Lando that the President won’t allow the Paul Ryan treatment from Biden. Biden never got his footing even with Wallace’s obvious assist attempts.

But... what an exhausting 96 minutes!

[jafo2010]

Wallace's performance was to be expected.  He is a Dem operative, just like Stephanopolus, masquerading as a journalist.  What we witnessed last night was the purity of corruption with the media.  Fox News likes to talk about being fair and balanced, but neither were evident with Wallace's performance.

I was so disgusted, I walked away after 50 minutes or so.  Trump was having to debate Wallace more often than Biden, and Wallace was carrying water for Biden every chance he could.

And why was white supremacy even mentioned?  Is it white supremacists burning down a dozen Dem controlled cities?  Hell no.  White supremacists exist, but they are not destroying anything, so why the discussion on them at all?  And where was Wallace to address the Antifa and BLM anarhists actually destroying cities?  What a weak sister he is.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Excellent comments. Prior to the debate, I said to Mrs. Lando that the President won’t allow the Paul Ryan treatment from Biden. Biden never got his footing even with Wallace’s obvious assist attempts.

But... what an exhausting 96 minutes!

Yes, yes it was @Lando Lincoln 

[XenaLee]

Boy I'll agree, Wallace was a disgrace.  Biden was an even worse disgrace.  Fox needs to dump Wallace.  American Patriots need to dump Biden.

Fox will probably award Wallace with a raise and more prestige after carrying their leftist water last nite.   American Patriots would never have Biden to dump in the first place.  JS...

[Right_in_Virginia]

That's just about how I saw it. It was a complete clown show, a disgrace to the very idea of public debate.

Beyond the initial Two Minute statement "rule", which turned out to be only a premise, the format appeared intentionally absent of structure and boundaries.

What remained were two men mumbling, scoffing and shouting over each other, and repeatedly interrupting the moderator, whose role it appeared to be to ask mockingly tendentious and hostile questions to one, lovingly favorable questions to the other and pretend to be annoyed when a verbal food fight broke out, without any buzzers or timers or any semblance of rules to limit what could be said, or when, or to whom.

I thought Trump got the better of it on balance, but the whole enterprise was so undignified and dumb that it made me wonder why the hell anyone would want to watch it.

Where the hell is it written a debate must be dignified?  Ever watch the goings on in the House of Commons?   

Imagine standing 12 feet away from one of your coup plotters .... and we can't begin to know what Trump knows about Biden's role in the attempted take down of him, his family, his administration .... but suffice it to say the President knows EVERYTHING; including about Hunter.  And there Biden is lying, laughing, being given cover by the fake news, calling you the worst President in American history, a clown and telling you to "shut up".

Although I don't expect many folks to agree with me, I give the President credit for not walking over to Biden and shoving the written answers to the debate questions up his ass and taking the wire from under Biden's jacket and wrapping it around his neck until his IV popped out. 

But come on guys (not aimed at you @andy58-in-nh ) back away from the soy milk and grow a spine; and in the name of all that is holy, stop panicking.

(To those who will insist the President is suffering "self-inflicted" wounds .... snap out of it and spit out the most pervasive lie in media history.)

[XenaLee]

Where the hell is it written a debate must be dignified?  Ever watch the goings on in the House of Commons?   

Imagine standing 12 feet away from one of your coup plotters .... and we can't begin to know what Trump knows about Biden's role in the attempted take down of him, his family, his administration .... but suffice it to say the President knows EVERYTHING; including about Hunter.  And there Biden is lying, laughing, being given cover by the fake news, calling you the worst President in American history, a clown and telling you to "shut up".

Although I don't expect many folks to agree with me, I give the President credit for not walking over to Biden and shoving the written answers to the debate questions up his ass and taking the wire from under Biden's jacket and wrapping it around his neck until his IV popped out. 

But come on guys (not aimed at you @andy58-in-nh ) back away from the soy milk and grow a spine; and in the name of all that is holy, stop panicking.

(To those who will insist the President is suffering "self-inflicted" wounds .... snap out of it and spit out the most pervasive lie in media history.)

Exactly.   I kinda wanted to see Trump walk over and deck Joe with a back-handed bitch-slap.  A much-needed slap.   

[verga]

For the love of all that is holy, when are we ever going to get a moderator that is not a DNC shill?

[XenaLee]

For the love of all that is holy, when are we ever going to get a moderator that is not a DNC shill?

Uh.... second Tuesday of next week?   When Hell freezes over?   Or when a Democrat manages to find an honest meme and a working brain cell?   Never, IOW.

[dfwgator]

Trump needed to nail Biden more on being a major China ass-kisser.

[XenaLee]

Trump needed to nail Biden more on being a major China ass-kisser.

As someone pointed out (I think it was Rush).... that wasn't a "debate".   It was a press conference held by Democrats for Democrats with controlled questions (their questions) only being asked.  Anything not addressing what they wanted to hear was interrupted, chided and silenced.  Typical Democrat stuff.

[dfwgator]

As someone pointed out (I think it was Rush).... that wasn't a "debate".   It was a press conference held by Democrats for Democrats with controlled questions (their questions) only being asked.  Anything not addressing what they wanted to hear was interrupted, chided and silenced.  Typical Democrat stuff.

It was "Question Time", like they have in the British Parliament.

[Absalom]

The debate? Trump was great, Chris Wallace was a dreadful disgrace[/b]
American Thinker, Sep 30, 2020, Patricia McCarthy
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So...........Trump was great?
Actually he was predicable!!!
American Thinker never fails to embarrass itself thru its
Trump worshipers, who are collectively, too brainless for words.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump needed to nail Biden more on being a major China ass-kisser.

He gets a second chance during the debate on foreign policy.   

[aligncare]

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Why no questions on school choice?  On the border and illegal immigration which Biden supports?  On the necessity of ending the lockdowns that have caused much more death and destruction than COVID?  On the Biden “I am the Democratic Party right now”? On his family’s mysteriously ill-gotten wealth in the multi-millions?  Wallace was not going to let any of those issues come to the fore.

...and another thing. Where did that question on climate change come from? Wallace announced before hand there would be six topics covered, and climate change wasn’t one of them!

What up with that?

[andy58-in-nh]

Where the hell is it written a debate must be dignified?  Ever watch the goings on in the House of Commons?   

Imagine standing 12 feet away from one of your coup plotters .... and we can't begin to know what Trump knows about Biden's role in the attempted take down of him, his family, his administration .... but suffice it to say the President knows EVERYTHING; including about Hunter.  And there Biden is lying, laughing, being given cover by the fake news, calling you the worst President in American history, a clown and telling you to "shut up".

Although I don't expect many folks to agree with me, I give the President credit for not walking over to Biden and shoving the written answers to the debate questions up his ass and taking the wire from under Biden's jacket and wrapping it around his neck until his IV popped out.

But come on guys (not aimed at you @andy58-in-nh ) back away from the soy milk and grow a spine; and in the name of all that is holy, stop panicking.

(To those who will insist the President is suffering "self-inflicted" wounds .... snap out of it and spit out the most pervasive lie in media history.)

 @Right_in_Virginia

I understand what you're saying. I like the fact that Donald Trump doesn't let himself be pushed around by the Left and the media (but I repeat myself). I just wish he would have the patience to do it in a more thoughtful and effective way. I remember the days when an insult was judged to be far more devastating when it was issued in a witty and literate way; it is always easier to hurl epithets than verbal lightning bolts. ("There you go again...") 

Look: our cultural institutions (including the media) are now so dominated by identity politics that even obvious malfeasance on the part of the Left is instantly denied and deflected, while blatantly false accusations toward those on the Right are instantly assumed as true. It's annoying, at best. But it has also caused normally peaceful and rational people to avoid conflict, because, well, they are afraid of being bullied and insulted, and who has the time to deal with that crap? 

That's why so many people like Trump, as uncouth as he can be: he doesn't take the crap, nor should he. I think that's a plus. But I do think he could accomplish the same thing by acting a little more like a statesman, and less like a brawler. Don't counter the other guy's every jab. Let the fool wear himself out first - and then punch his lights out.