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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #75 on: September 28, 2020, 07:30:29 pm »
I would be interested to know if the NYT included quarterly payments that have to be made by people with certain income levels.

So what if he paid a lot for a hairstylist? He was a reality tv star. That was part of the deal.

My question to most of these people would be...if there is a deduction you are eligible for when you do your taxes...Do you say no, no, no? If not, it's best to hush. So the guy was/is rich. Too darn bad. You should try to better yourself if you want those deductions. (I hate when the media says "loopholes" as it implies dishonesty.

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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #76 on: September 28, 2020, 07:37:55 pm »
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Apparently you would; the consequence of infatuation morphing into obsession.
Regardless, the question that matters is how the Fan Club is going to deal
w/the reality of Nov 4, as it rapidly approaches!!!
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #78 on: September 28, 2020, 08:13:06 pm »
Trump tax return story includes its own fact-check; he paid to US Treasury $1 mil in 2016 and $4.2 mil in 2017
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/09/28/trump-tax-return-story-includes-its-own-fact-check-he-paid-to-us-treasury-1-mil-in-2016-and-4-2-mil-in-2017-978256
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #79 on: September 28, 2020, 08:16:07 pm »
The President can naturally get very defensive about any character assassinations and he'll have to control his temper, or use it in an intelligent way.
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Er....................these attributes and Trump are compete strangers.
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« Reply #80 on: September 28, 2020, 08:24:00 pm »
Oooh, who can withstand the deadly Heraclitus blow?

He also said, "Corpses are more fit to be thrown out than is dung." Words to live by, indeed.
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #81 on: September 28, 2020, 08:26:28 pm »
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Heraclitus asserted Character required Honor and Integrity; defining our Destiny.
Er....................these attributes and Trump are compete strangers.

Honor and integrity are attributes that Democrats do not believe in.  Don't you find it a bit disingenuous for them to apply them to Trump?
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #82 on: September 28, 2020, 08:46:06 pm »
@Absalom
Dear Absalom,
I am a "plain people".  I paid more in taxes than Trump those two years reported when he was president.  Does that mean I helped pay the $70,000 for fixing his hair before he goes before the public?  Yes, I have said before he is an emperor without clothes.  When he is no longer president, the people will see what he really is - almost bald and owing millions upon millions of dollars, including for Trump Tower, he must pay
When he was with his first wife, she had some plastic surgery.  He used the same doc to cut his scalp, cut out the scalp skin without hair and stitch the two sides together that had hair.  When he was home, he was in pain.  He blamed his wife for his pain, because he used her doctor.  He grabbed her hair and pulled it out, said he wanted her to feel as much pain as he did.  She ran upstairs to a bedroom, and locked the door.  When she went downstairs the next morning, her pulled out hair was still on the bed.
I have nine books about Trump, some of those include his business transactions that led to his numerous bankruptcies.  While his father was still alive, he gave Trump money every time he got in big money trouble; the father did that to keep the family company reputation as a company that made money, did not lose money.
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Victoria, in simplest terms, Trump is his Grandfather, re-incarnated.
As for Plain People, it was Abe Lincoln's descriptive, defining those w/o pretension or vanity.
As such, it has absolutely nothing to do with any/all of the garbage that infests Washington!!!
We lost our vision, a century ago, when we abandoned spiritual sensibilities and values, replacing them w/materialism as a higher calling, "as it betters Man's condition" and we are now paying acutely for this !!!
The likes of Trump and the rest of the frauds and hustlers of our political class would never
have risen to power in earlier times as culture/society then, would never have permitted it, for the simplest of reasons; they fully grasped that Character mattered.
As such, permitting those w/o character to decide the fate of a nation/state and its people
was a self-inflicted death sentence; yet we who are the 'greatest'; remain oblivious!!!


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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #83 on: September 28, 2020, 08:52:23 pm »
Are these real... did someone break the law leaking these?

I don't care, personally, still voting Trump.

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« Reply #84 on: September 28, 2020, 08:55:42 pm »
Trump “paid no income taxes at all in 10 of the previous 15 years — largely because he reported losing much more money than he made,” the report says.

Correct me if I'm wrong... but this is carry-over losses and is fairly common in real-estate correct? It's very subject to the whims of the market.

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« Reply #85 on: September 28, 2020, 09:02:15 pm »
My winning strategy?

1.  Tone down attacks that might come off as "personal"
2.  Tie Biden to the ultra-left.  Use dim plank as talking points....  even verbatim
3.  Exploit Biden't late to the game condemnation of rioting
4.  Use time to carefully tie the Biden's to the Ukraine scandal in such a manner, it basically convicts them
5.  Drive home the point that the dims have exploited the pandemic for political gain, and tie them complictly to the Chicoms
6.  Pre-Pandemic ecomonic boom has been his legacy, and ask the voters to not let the dims return to the stagnation and decline of the previous Obama/ Biden terms.

My winning strategy:

* Let Biden take the first punch; then make him bleed for the rest of the night.

* Tie everything back to the middle class and the (now) Biden administration's mismanagement of everything it touched, Biden's corruption and his selling out of the American worker to the Chinese and the globalists (lift this directly from the rallies). 

* Biden drained this country of jobs, military readiness, pandemic readiness, stature and hope. The only one who truly succeeded thanks to the Biden policies was Hunter.  Biden's asking for your vote when he should be begging for your forgiveness.
 
* Now he wants to come back and build on his past destruction with a chance to take away your safety, your tax relief, your job,  your energy independence, your children's best education, your automobiles, your guns, your freedom to assembly, your freedom of speech, your freedom to practice your religion and your freedom to live the American Dream.  Tell Joe, "no", "no more"!

*Joe Biden has sold his soul to the socialists for a chance to live in YOUR white house in Washington, DC. and if he wins, the American people will pay this price for generations.

The American People cannot afford Joe Biden.  Period.


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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #86 on: September 28, 2020, 09:04:19 pm »
Nolte: New York Times Counts on Public Ignorance to Push Trump Tax Nothingburger

John Nolte 28 Sep 2020

The far-left New York Times claims it obtained copies of President Trump’s tax returns and is counting on ignorance to turn its nothingburger into some kind of scandal.

The only real news in the returns is how they debunk three media conspiracy theories. Although the Times hides the news as though it doesn’t matter, and despite years and years of the media floating the idea, we now know there’s nothing about Russia in Trump’s tax returns. No secret loans. No oligarch connections. No nothing.

Secondly, there’s no record of a secret payoff to Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen that would suggest an illicit payment was made to porn star Stormy Daniels to cover up what she says was a one-night stand a dozen years ago. It’s not illegal to pay someone hush money. So this non-scandal has always baffled me. If anything, it’s illegal to blackmail someone for money, which is kinda what the porn star did, no?

Finally, Trump is in fact under audit, which means he’s been telling the truth for five years about that, about why he does not want to release his tax returns.

So, even though the tax returns basically debunk three hoaxes the fake media have been floating for years, the Times still pretends it has something other than a nothingburger with the amount of money Trump has paid in taxes over the years.,

You’ve seen the headlines (I don’t link fake news)…

NBC News: “Trump tax records show duplicity. That’s devastating for his campaign.”

Reuters: “Trump frequently paid no income tax.”

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/28/nolte-new-york-times-counts-on-public-ignorance-to-push-trump-tax-nothingburger/

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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #87 on: September 28, 2020, 09:15:27 pm »
I would be interested to know if the NYT included quarterly payments that have to be made by people with certain income levels.

So what if he paid a lot for a hairstylist? He was a reality tv star. That was part of the deal.

My question to most of these people would be...if there is a deduction you are eligible for when you do your taxes...Do you say no, no, no? If not, it's best to hush. So the guy was/is rich. Too darn bad. You should try to better yourself if you want those deductions. (I hate when the media says "loopholes" as it implies dishonesty.

In fact, if you questioned any of these prima donna news anchors criticizing Trump, you’ll learn that they all take the same tax deduction. It’s part of the cost of having a consistent appearance required by using the same highly skilled makeup artist. It reduces the complexity and time in application each day you appear on screen.


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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #88 on: September 28, 2020, 09:17:24 pm »
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You don't pay taxes on wealth..you pay taxes on income..if no income you don't pay..this is when Trump suffered losses..
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #89 on: September 28, 2020, 09:26:31 pm »
I am wondering if there was anyone at the New York Times who could read Trumps taxes, let alone understand what they mean.

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« Reply #90 on: September 28, 2020, 09:32:16 pm »
I am wondering if there was anyone at the New York Times who could read Trumps taxes, let alone understand what they mean.

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« Reply #91 on: September 28, 2020, 09:35:14 pm »
Are these real...

Highly likely.  Which is a fail for the NY Times since they exonerate Trump of Russia collusion and profiting off the Presidency.


... did someone break the law leaking these?

Absolutely.  Multiple felonies here.
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #92 on: September 28, 2020, 09:35:46 pm »
John Yoo

You don't pay taxes on wealth..you pay taxes on income..if no income you don't pay..this is when Trump suffered losses..

You sure as hell pay taxes on land though. Trump's real estate taxes would probably give most people coronary's. A lot of states also tax assets like vehicles and such.

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« Reply #93 on: September 28, 2020, 09:36:42 pm »
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Heraclitus asserted Character required Honor and Integrity; defining our Destiny.
Er....................these attributes and Trump are compete strangers.

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Listen up...

If we of the great unwashed in Conservative circles had followed your advice....YOUR so-called words of 'wisdom',
Hillary Clinton would be making her THIRD nomination to the Supreme Court.

Put a cork in it.
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #94 on: September 28, 2020, 09:40:12 pm »
@Absalom

Listen up...

If we of the great unwashed in Conservative circles had followed your advice....YOUR so-called words of 'wisdom',
Hillary Clinton would be making her THIRD nomination to the Supreme Court.


But that would be OK since words like 'honor' and 'integrity' don't apply when it comes to Democrats.
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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #95 on: September 28, 2020, 09:56:39 pm »
You sure as hell pay taxes on land though. Trump's real estate taxes would probably give most people coronary's. A lot of states also tax assets like vehicles and such.
Trump wouldn't pay that.  The Trump Organization would pay that, and it would be an expense for the company.

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« Reply #96 on: September 28, 2020, 10:29:52 pm »
This was all done to take Trump off his game Tuesday night.

But after Tuesday night.....you know the saying, When you point your finger, three fingers point right back at you.

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Re: Trump didn't pay income tax for 10 of 15 years before 2016 election: NYT
« Reply #97 on: September 28, 2020, 11:06:41 pm »
Is there an income level at which you don't have to pay SSI or Medicare? And does it matter if you are self-employed?

I don't know. I ain't rich. They take those two plus fed plus state. I don't overpay too much fed and state so I don't get much back. Nor do I owe.

I have no deductions that would beat the Standard(s).

So, Trump doesn't pay taxes? Good for him. Americans shouldn't be overrun by the FU**ING IRS.
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« Reply #98 on: September 28, 2020, 11:10:03 pm »
Since I haven't read the 17,000 pages of fed tax code lit I will plead ignorance and shut up now.

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« Reply #99 on: September 28, 2020, 11:31:26 pm »
Is there an income level at which you don't have to pay SSI or Medicare? And does it matter if you are self-employed?

I don't know. I ain't rich. They take those two plus fed plus state. I don't overpay too much fed and state so I don't get much back. Nor do I owe.

I have no deductions that would beat the Standard(s).

So, Trump doesn't pay taxes? Good for him. Americans shouldn't be overrun by the FU**ING IRS.
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