NY TIMES: Up to 90% Who’ve Tested COVID-Positive Wrongly Diagnosed! TRUTH: A Whole Lot Worse! (Pt 3/

[Victoria33]

He said there is no way a vaccine will be ready by election day, and he contradicted what Birx said about voting in person is OK.

@Cyber Liberty

Thanks for telling me that.  Will tell Bob when he gets back.  He is making an errand and I told him to get me a bag of Fritos.  I saw pictures of snacks yesterday and remembered how tasty Fritos are - haven't had them in years.   OK, his car just came.  Will tell him and eat Fritos.  You could have some if you were here.  WOW, he got dip for the Fritos - French Onion Dip, talk to you later,....

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Smokin Joe @roamer_1 @skeeter @Cyber Liberty @mystery-ak @Right_in_Virginia

This entire COVID fiasco has been about one thing and one thing only! GET TRUMP!

Of course it was @Bigun   It still is. 

But I don't think this is the fiasco the Marxist libs envisioned.  In a nutshell, the Marxists have exposed themselves and highlighted the President as the only one fighting to stop their COVID  bullshit and salvage the middle class.  I think people intuitively understand what's happening here.  The Marxists can't even keep their own rules for the "pandemic" straight --- Pelosi's getting her hair done without a mask, Biden's out there shaking hands but wearing a mask while inside talking to a socially distanced handful of people (today).

As with everything they do, the Marxists jumped the shark.

In fact, jumping the shark is all they have done in 2020--and all done to GET TRUMP:  Impeachment, extended lockdowns due to Covid to crush our economy, riots.  As the Marxists hoped ---  all of this will be reflected in the election.  Just not in the way they planned.   

[PeteS in CA]

Of those <10,000 were from COVID alone.  The rest were comorbidities, so it's still a lot.  But this story is still huge because it shakes confidence in the rest of the data. That's where the lying comes in.

The story is being misconstrued by both extremes pretty wildly. I do blame the medical and public health community for the confusion. Rather than make the distinction between Covid-19 being the sole or a contributing cause, they just lumped them all together. At best it's incredibly careless, and at worst, well, it dishonestly fuels many governors' tyranny and Hate-Trumpery. That said, claiming there have only been ~10,000 Covid-19 deaths in the US and calling people pointing out this very real statistic "deniers" are both the same sort of mix of carelessness and agenda. Is there anybody I didn't PO? Or at least raise some hackles?

BTW, this is not issue is not peculiar to the US. If one wanders over to Worldometers, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ , compares the Covid-19 deaths-per-million in the neighboring countries of, for example, France and Germany or Belgium and Netherlands or Sweden and Norway, it's pretty clear that there are some significantly different cause-of-death definitions in play.

[LegalAmerican]

It's because "We the People" don't want a balanced budget,  oh sure, they want to cut spending, until it comes time to cut THEIR pet program.

  Agree.  We did not have a budget for 8 years under obama.   Now, people are upset with POTUS?  He is budgeting.  Cutting costs, getting better deals.  It will take some time.  NO LEFT...wants to acknowledge how COVID has harmed business's & AMERICA.  USEFUL idiots and communists, are out of reality.

If a tragedy befalls a family, CAR ACCIDENT,  CANCER,  and their  finances get messed up...the LEFT STILL EXPECTS THEM TO KEEP THE PROMISE OF GIVING MONEY MONTHLY TO THEIR CAUSE.  NO HURRICANE,  CANCER, HOUSE FIRE...stops the LEFT from .....wanting.  Wanting it all to be the 'same' not counting the issues at hand.  OUT OF REALITY.

[Bigun]

Of course it was @Bigun   It still is. 

But I don't think this is the fiasco the Marxist libs envisioned.  In a nutshell, the Marxists have exposed themselves and highlighted the President as the only one fighting to stop their COVID  bullshit and salvage the middle class.  I think people intuitively understand what's happening here.  The Marxists can't even keep their own rules for the "pandemic" straight --- Pelosi's getting her hair done without a mask, Biden's out there shaking hands but wearing a mask while inside talking to a socially distanced handful of people (today).

As with everything they do, the Marxists jumped the shark.

In fact, jumping the shark is all they have done in 2020--and all done to GET TRUMP:  Impeachment, extended lockdowns due to Covid to crush our economy, riots.  As the Marxists hoped ---  all of this will be reflected in the election.  Just not in the way they planned.   

 

[Mod5]

Trump is not the topic of this thread nor are TBR members.

[bigheadfred]

Trump is not the topic of this thread nor are TBR members.

It is now.

[bigheadfred]

I don't know what the topic is. My wife took two grandkids in today because they are running a fever.

Not covid. Garden variety bug.

My wife asked the nurse how many covid cases she had seen?

None. The nurse also told the wife she thought the "numbers" were bull....

PS: My wife took them to an ER. Not just a doctor's office.

[Bigun]

I don't know what the topic is. My wife took two grandkids in today because they are running a fever.

Not covid. Garden variety bug.

My wife asked the nurse how many covid cases she had seen?

None. The nurse also told the wife she thought the "numbers" were bull....

PS: My wife took them to an ER. Not just a doctor's office.

It's becoming increasingly clear that nurse is right!

[LegalAmerican]

Talking about COVID. 



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[roamer_1]

Um... it means that I think you're being unrealistic ....

considering how long you've been expecting different realities...."Been there done that for 30 friggin years." with no joy.....

and unfair.   

You asked.

LOL!. I have only been operating according to the principles of conservatism - Under the auspices of Reagan. That is supposedly what we are all here to do. And that is all I have EVER expected, was a fight for those things. Thirty years ... Bupkis. Nothing. Not a single win.

If you suggest I adjust 'reality' by throwing out those things I know to be true, just to get on the bandwagon... Well that's the opposite of reality.

I am sick of taking about it. The fact of the matter is, Tumpy and the Republicans failed egregiously. I don't care at all what little bit they do right around the edges. That does not do a damn thing to fix the monumental error(s)

Whatever conservatism is in this is nothing but a house of cards, as predicted and as expected...

I will not throw conservatives under the bus, ever... so we may as well quit talking about it.

 

[bigheadfred]

I blame Bush for a helluva lot.

No doubt.

All the way back to Eve.

That is when the lies began and have grown ever since. Look at the one we got right here on this thread.

Covid as a major threat is bull.

I have to disagree that Trump would be dead by now if he was a threat. People have to be tempted to their demise. Assassinating Trump would really piss too many people for the globalists current timeline.

[Smokin Joe]

Right, He was busy being a liberal globalist.

Frankly, I am not so sure the politics mattered then as much as making money and self-promotion, considering he is his own brand.

Of course, having America survive the communist globalist totalitarians might be a step toward making more money, and his self-promotion is assured by virtue of position. I don't think a Communist history would treat him very well, though, so he does have a dog in this fight.

[Smokin Joe]

What we need is about twenty uninterrupted terms of patriotic people with regular business and life experience elected as president and congressional officers. Statesmen just sounds like another way of saying smooth, professional politician. I’m a bit soured on those.

No, statesmen are educated men (and occasionally wmen) who place the long term well being of the country ahead of even their personal benefits. Think folks like Jefferson, Madison, Washington, and you have the hallmarks of the breed.
Politicians are like actors, all about appearance and lacking substance that does not lead to personal profit directly or indirectly. THey play someone who gives a damn about the nation and the people, statesmen walk the walk.

[libertybele]

@Cyber Liberty

Thanks for telling me that.  Will tell Bob when he gets back.  He is making an errand and I told him to get me a bag of Fritos.  I saw pictures of snacks yesterday and remembered how tasty Fritos are - haven't had them in years.   OK, his car just came.  Will tell him and eat Fritos.  You could have some if you were here.  WOW, he got dip for the Fritos - French Onion Dip, talk to you later,....

Yummy!  I haven't had Fritos in years.  On my grocery list next trip for sure! 

[Smokin Joe]

What we NEED @aligncare is a federal government about 1/3 its current size!

What we need, is to reduce the Federal Government to its Constitutionally authorized obligations and duties, with a little (damned little) wiggle room for technological advances (air traffic, electromagnetic communications). I figure the rest would either be done by the States or not at all (power returned to the People). That should easily eliminate two thirds of it.

[XenaLee]

LOL!. I have only been operating according to the principles of conservatism - Under the auspices of Reagan. That is supposedly what we are all here to do. And that is all I have EVER expected, was a fight for those things. Thirty years ... Bupkis. Nothing. Not a single win.

If you suggest I adjust 'reality' by throwing out those things I know to be true, just to get on the bandwagon... Well that's the opposite of reality.

I am sick of taking about it. The fact of the matter is, Tumpy and the Republicans failed egregiously. I don't care at all what little bit they do right around the edges. That does not do a damn thing to fix the monumental error(s)

Whatever conservatism is in this is nothing but a house of cards, as predicted and as expected...

I will not throw conservatives under the bus, ever... so we may as well quit talking about it.

Ok.   Can you?   

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

Thanks for telling me that.  Will tell Bob when he gets back.  He is making an errand and I told him to get me a bag of Fritos.  I saw pictures of snacks yesterday and remembered how tasty Fritos are - haven't had them in years.   OK, his car just came.  Will tell him and eat Fritos.  You could have some if you were here.  WOW, he got dip for the Fritos - French Onion Dip, talk to you later,....

MMM!  Fritos with French Onion dip!  On my way!!!

[bigheadfred]

What we need, is to reduce the Federal Government to its Constitutionally authorized obligations and duties, with a little (damned little) wiggle room for technological advances (air traffic, electromagnetic communications). I figure the rest would either be done by the States or not at all (power returned to the People). That should easily eliminate two thirds of it.

What I like is our sixteen different intelligence agencies that don't share information with each other. WTF is that?

I posted a thread giving the breakdown.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,413329.msg2280522/topicseen.html#msg2280522

[XenaLee]

What I like is our sixteen different intelligence agencies that don't share information with each other. WTF is that?

Under Clinton, it was called the Gorelick Wall.   Now, it's just the Obama/Soros deep state of FUBAR.

[skeeter]

I am so glad to know the 186,392 dead people are NOT dead!
Dig them up if buried, put ashes together if cremated, and let these people get on with their lives!  Plus, we can go anywhere we want, no mask, hug every person and not catch the virus!  This is great for older people like me!

The point is not COVID isn’t a threat. The point is locking down healthy people, destroying an economy, is insane when the virus isn’t killing healthy people, as the media has represented.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yummy!  I haven't had Fritos in years.  On my grocery list next trip for sure! 

Get the "Scoops."  really good for scooping up bean dip.

[Cyber Liberty]

The point is not COVID isn’t a threat. The point is locking down healthy people, destroying an economy, is insane when the virus isn’t killing healthy people, as the media has represented.

And therein lies the rub.  We've quarantined healthy people instead of sick people, and that is the definition of tyranny.

[Smokin Joe]

What I like is our sixteen different intelligence agencies that don't share information with each other. WTF is that?

I posted a thread giving the breakdown.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,413329.msg2280522/topicseen.html#msg2280522

That information was stovepiped by the Gorelick Memo and only to be reported at the top. The legacy of that was that one agency was aware that the hijackers were here, another aware that they were taking flight training but not learning to land, another tracking their movements, right up till they got on the plane in 2001 at Logan Airport. A ten year old could have sorted out the plot, but the intel wasn't shared, the Dems wanted to blame Bush, and Gorelick was on the 911 Commission to investigate how America got caught with it's britches around its ankles (and cover up how her Memo had enabled the attacks).

[Smokin Joe]

The point is not COVID isn’t a threat. The point is locking down healthy people, destroying an economy, is insane when the virus isn’t killing healthy people, as the media has represented.

Right. While the panic was on about the apocalypse in NYC where even the most rudimentary precautions had not been taken (and worse was yet to come), the MSM was showing video of people dropping in their tracks in China. Like with Revolutions not being about the issues, but about the revolution, this pandemic has not been about the disease, but maintaining levels of panic and control.