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Judge holds Godspeak chapel and Pastor Rob McCoy in contempt, orders fine
« on: August 23, 2020, 07:06:08 pm »
Judge holds Godspeak chapel and Pastor Rob McCoy in contempt, orders fine

Pastor Rob McCoy and the Newbury Park church he leads were held in contempt of court Friday for failing to obey a restraining order that prohibits indoor worship services in an attempt to curb COVID-19.

Ventura County Superior Court Judge Vincent O'Neill Jr. issued the ruling against McCoy and the Godspeak Calvary Chapel after a two-hour hearing in Ventura. He fined the chapel $3,000, but did not impose any fines on McCoy.

That was half the $6,000 Ventura County officials had recommended against the church, based on a fine of $1,000 for each of the six services held indoors over the past two Sundays. County officials had not recommended a fine against McCoy either.

Previous coverage:Newbury Park church again holds indoor services; contempt of court hearing set Friday

The judge said he thought there were "mitigating circumstances" for violating the order, but that he had not heard any suggestion that the indoor services would be stopped in the future.

O'Neill did not specify the circumstances in his ruling, but McCoy testified that there were numerous problems with holding services outdoors.

He said Executive Pastor Tony Logan must stay indoors because of a severe sun allergy; that the church had received threats of violence; that he could not find a park large enough to accommodate the worship services; and the temperature had risen close to 100 degrees on a recent Sunday.

O'Neill said it was an unpleasant duty before him, but concluded that the church and the pastor were in contempt of the order. He said the order was valid, the accused was aware of the order, there was the ability to comply and there was willful disobedience although well motivated.

"I fully understand that freedom of religion is protected by the very First Amendment, but I have a duty to uphold the court's order that was duly issued," O'Neill said. ..........

https://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2020/08/21/covid-ventura-county-church-pastor-held-contempt-health-violations-indoor-worship/5609260002/
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Re: Judge holds Godspeak chapel and Pastor Rob McCoy in contempt, orders fine
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2020, 07:15:32 pm »
Texas State Constitution

Article I, Section 6

FREEDOM OF WORSHIP.  All men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences.  No man shall be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship, or to maintain any ministry against his consent.  No human authority ought, in any case whatever, to control or interfere with the rights of conscience in matters of religion, and no preference shall ever be given by law to any religious society or mode of worship.  But it shall be the duty of the Legislature to pass such laws as may be necessary to protect equally every religious denomination in the peaceable enjoyment of its own mode of public worship.

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/CN/htm/CN.1.htm#1.6


The Constitution is clear on this one.  This judge is in violation of the very oath he swore to uphold.  He should resign.
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Re: Judge holds Godspeak chapel and Pastor Rob McCoy in contempt, orders fine
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2020, 09:13:06 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 23, 2020, 07:15:32 pm
Texas State Constitution

Article I, Section 6

FREEDOM OF WORSHIP.  All men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences.  No man shall be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship, or to maintain any ministry against his consent.  No human authority ought, in any case whatever, to control or interfere with the rights of conscience in matters of religion, and no preference shall ever be given by law to any religious society or mode of worship.  But it shall be the duty of the Legislature to pass such laws as may be necessary to protect equally every religious denomination in the peaceable enjoyment of its own mode of public worship.

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/CN/htm/CN.1.htm#1.6


The Constitution is clear on this one.  This judge is in violation of the very oath he swore to uphold.  He should resign.

Unfortunately, Ventura County is in California, where the Constitution has no power.
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Re: Judge holds Godspeak chapel and Pastor Rob McCoy in contempt, orders fine
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2020, 10:00:52 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 23, 2020, 09:13:06 pm
Unfortunately, Ventura County is in California, where the Constitution has no power.

My bad.  I though this was Ventura, TX.

California State Constitution

Article I, Section 3a
The people have the right to instruct their representatives, petition government for redress of grievances, and assemble freely to consult for the common good.


Article I, Section 3b(4)
Nothing in this subdivision supersedes or modifies any provision of this Constitution, including the guarantees that a person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, or denied equal protection of the laws, as provided in Section 7.


Article I, Section 4
Free exercise and enjoyment of religion without discrimination or preference are guaranteed.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=CONS&division=&title=&part=&chapter=&article=I
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Re: Judge holds Godspeak chapel and Pastor Rob McCoy in contempt, orders fine
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2020, 10:16:31 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on August 23, 2020, 10:00:52 pm
My bad.  I though this was Ventura, TX.

California State Constitution

Article I, Section 3a
The people have the right to instruct their representatives, petition government for redress of grievances, and assemble freely to consult for the common good.


Article I, Section 3b(4)
Nothing in this subdivision supersedes or modifies any provision of this Constitution, including the guarantees that a person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, or denied equal protection of the laws, as provided in Section 7.


Article I, Section 4
Free exercise and enjoyment of religion without discrimination or preference are guaranteed.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displayText.xhtml?lawCode=CONS&division=&title=&part=&chapter=&article=I

In either case, the stated goals of a moldy old constitution must be made to give way to the modern now-a-go-go world of today.
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Re: Judge holds Godspeak chapel and Pastor Rob McCoy in contempt, orders fine
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2020, 10:41:22 pm »
An emergency order cannot contain orders that conflict with the constitution!

I don’t give a d@mn if the SCOTUS themselves rule in favor of these tyrants!

As a matter of fact: In Marbury v. Madison the Supreme Court announced for the first time
the principle that a court may declare an act of Congress void if it is inconsistent with the Constitution.

“All laws that are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void."
Marbury v. Madison

So if Congress can’t enforce unconstitutional law(s) then what these legislators Should be doing is attacking and ignoring the unconstitutional, individual demands within the order itself!

And NO, a state’s constitution Does Not override the Federal Constitution!
« Last Edit: August 23, 2020, 10:43:00 pm by mrclose »
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Re: Judge holds Godspeak chapel and Pastor Rob McCoy in contempt, orders fine
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2020, 11:00:49 pm »
This same prosecutor and Judge would never dare do this same thing to any Mosque.
Or a Satanic Church for that matter, which there are tons of them in CA.
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