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The Curious Problem of Obesity among the Poor
« on: August 19, 2020, 02:11:33 pm »
August 19, 2020
The Curious Problem of Obesity among the Poor
By P.F. Whalen

In a recent OpEd from The Guardian, author Larry Elliot opines on the frequency of obesity among low-income households in the U.K., and points out that the problem “in the U.S. mirrors that of the U.K.”  Elliot goes on to proclaim, that, “there will be less obesity when people can afford to eat better.” 

The premise is that poor folks are victims of one injustice or another; in Elliot’s case, he claims they are unable to afford healthy food.  This notion has been floating around for several years now, particularly as it relates to children, and is one that is frequently parroted by the left in America.

In November, 2019 the CDC published a report, with little fanfare, that stated incidents of childhood obesity among low-income households in the U.S. had decreased.  Being confused by this news is understandable.  The idea of childhood obesity in low-income households being a problem worthy of CDC involvement is counter-intuitive to anyone with logical intuitiveness.  How can obesity among the poor be such a problem?  People who are truly poor would have a hard time providing enough food for their children, not the other way around, right?  After all, we have leftists like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) proclaiming that America’s economy is “grotesquely unfair.” 

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Re: The Curious Problem of Obesity among the Poor
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2020, 02:14:26 pm »
What's curious about it, high-carb highly-processed foods are the cheapest to produce.

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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2020, 02:26:59 pm »
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Elliot goes on to proclaim, that, “there will be less obesity when people can afford to eat better.


There would be less poor people eating better if they had made better life choices. 
Back in my day poor folk were skinny, not like the fat freaks roaming the fast food places punching servers over a chicken mcnugget order that was wrong that they bought with a debit card..
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2020, 02:34:03 pm »
The thing is, fast food is not cheap. I can go to the store and eat far healthier, and for far less money.

And that is just lazy, not because of 'food deserts' or any crap like that.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2020, 02:53:41 pm »
What's curious about it, high-carb highly-processed foods are the cheapest to produce.

My wife is a volunteer at a food pantry, and she says that things like rice are pushed due to price, and shelf life. A lot of calories and carbs in rice.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2020, 02:59:26 pm »

There would be less poor people eating better if they had made better life choices. 
Back in my day poor folk were skinny, not like the fat freaks roaming the fast food places punching servers over a chicken mcnugget order that was wrong that they bought with a debit card..
When I was growing up in the fifties, my family would have been considered poor/deprived by today's standards. I was skinny as a rail until my late teens.
Poor choices are far more involved in people being fat rather than the unavailability of healthy food.

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Re: The Curious Problem of Obesity among the Poor
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2020, 03:06:36 pm »
any correlation with obesity and IQ ? and race? region?
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2020, 03:17:16 pm »
When government eliminates the need for personal responsibility, what did you expect?  Government subsidizes bad choices at every level.  This includes food consumption and unhealthy behavior.
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2020, 03:21:02 pm »

There would be less poor people eating better if they had made better life choices. 
Back in my day poor folk were skinny, not like the fat freaks roaming the fast food places punching servers over a chicken mcnugget order that was wrong that they bought with a debit card..
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2020, 03:41:04 pm »
When government eliminates the need for personal responsibility, what did you expect?  Government subsidizes bad choices at every level.  This includes food consumption and unhealthy behavior.

It’s a win win for the government - when the poor suffer higher mortality due to their poor government subsidized eating habits, the civil right crusaders will enable more government intervention due to “inequality” in our health care system.

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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2020, 04:24:46 pm »
My wife is a volunteer at a food pantry, and she says that things like rice are pushed due to price, and shelf life. A lot of calories and carbs in rice.
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Poor people will buy the cheapest food that has a long shelf life. Rice is one of those.  A mother who stays at home and provides meals, will do more cooking from scratch that takes more time and is healthier.  She may buy brown rice that is healthier than white rice but takes more time to cook.  A working, away from home mother will buy fast food as she is exhausted from her away from home job.  She will likely buy fast cooking/instant rice if she buys it at all. 

A point about rice: Practically no one is allergic to rice.  At one point in my life, I became allergic to some foods.  I was losing 5 lbs. every week.  I was sent to Houston to a certain doctor group that worked with food allergies.  During the weeks they were working with me, they had me eat nothing but rice since that was a universal food with no known allergic reactions.  A food bank will have rice to give people for that reason and it is cheap.

A working mother can buy McDonald's burgers and French Fries for the family and be done with providing a family meal.  When we go to a casino, 2 of us, we stop at a close McDonalds and get two sausage biscuits and two medium size coffees, and the cost is less than $5. 

The writing below blames the government for obesity due to eating white rice and kids eating at McDonald's.  (This is ridiculous.)

"It has also been suggested that eating brown rice instead of white may lead to weight loss and more favorable blood fat levels.  However, when it comes to white rice, the studies are a little more inconsistent.  Numerous studies have shown that a dietary pattern high in refined grains like white rice is linked to weight gain and obesity .  Kids are eating at McDonald’s too frequently, so the government needs to step in.  Families choose housing that’s inconvenient to supermarkets where they can buy healthy foods, so the government needs to do something.  And if playgrounds and athletic fields are not close enough to that housing, then that is the government’s fault as well."

When I was a child, there was no TV or individual phones - I went outside to play and ride my bike.  Kids today, can stay inside and have numerous "sit down" things to do - play on their phones, computers.  Eating and not moving will cause weight gain.  In Jr. High School and High School, I was in our band, was lead Clarinet player, and marched several times a week on the football field, and the band director called me "Skinny".  He called me that all through high school.  We grew all kinds of veggies, grew two pigs a year, had chickens, so I had a healthy diet and walked it off in band and P.E. - and, I was a runner.

No one in that band was overweight - in fact no one in that high school was fat.  What physical exercise are kids doing today in elementary, jr. high, and high school?  Fast food and sitting leads to fat.

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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2020, 05:19:41 pm »
any correlation with obesity and IQ ? and race? region?

To say there is... would be "racist".
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2020, 05:33:47 pm »
My wife is a volunteer at a food pantry, and she says that things like rice are pushed due to price, and shelf life. A lot of calories and carbs in rice.

I immediately pictured a bunch of obese rice farmers.



btw, nothing wrong with complex carbs.  Americans eat too much fat, not too much complex carbs.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2020, 05:35:11 pm »
I immediately pictured a bunch of obese rice farmers.



btw, nothing wrong with complex carbs.  Americans eat too much fat, not too much complex carbs.

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2020, 05:49:14 pm »
I immediately pictured a bunch of obese rice farmers.



btw, nothing wrong with complex carbs.  Americans eat too much fat, not too much complex carbs.

Nothing wrong with eating fat, unless you eat a lot of carbs with it.

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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2020, 02:14:47 am »
In poor countries, the poor are thin and the rich are fat.  In rich countries, the rich are thin and the poor are fat.
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2020, 04:07:39 am »
any correlation with obesity and IQ ? and race? region?

You don't WANT,  to know. 

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To say there is... would be "racist".
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Re: The Curious Problem of Obesity among the Poor
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2020, 06:49:48 am »
The thing is, fast food is not cheap. I can go to the store and eat far healthier, and for far less money.

And that is just lazy, not because of 'food deserts' or any crap like that.
THey are working on that, and if they burn enough grocery stores, they can make food desertification a reality!
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2020, 06:51:04 am »
I immediately pictured a bunch of obese rice farmers.



btw, nothing wrong with complex carbs.  Americans eat too much fat, not too much complex carbs.
But you hit on the difference. Rice farmers work. Our obese poor are fed like cattle.
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2020, 07:00:27 am »
They don't have jobs,they mostly sit around their "gubbermint 'partment" eating Ho Ho's and washing them down with Pepsi. Or drinking beer while eating potato chips.

THAT is why they are fat. Poor diet and sedentary life-style.
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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2020, 07:04:54 am »
They don't have jobs,they mostly sit around their "gubbermint 'partment" eating Ho Ho's and washing them down with Pepsi. Or drinking beer while eating potato chips.

THAT is why they are fat. Poor diet and sedentary life-style.
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