Republicans fear disaster in November

[roamer_1]

You idiots don't get it. If we lose this election, the country is done. Add 30 million illegal aliens to the vote mix and this country is Socialist for the next 3 generations. There IS no new conservative party. There IS no return to American values and small government. We essentially begin our migration towards a Chinese communist style one party rule...so any dissent you think you can make will simply and easily be squashed. At that point, you'll realize what idiocy you've been engaged in...but of course, it will be much too late to do anything but mourn for a nation lost.

Anyone dumb enough to think some new and more staunchly conservative party can rise from such a defeat deserves the coming tyranny of Socialist rule.

Fear mongering bullshit.

FIRST: There is no conservatism at all under you guys either. And no return to American values, and certainly not small government.

So what YOU are saying is 'We are already there, so stop fighting it', basically.

Bullshit. Fear mongering bullshit.

Nah, nah. You guys SUCK and there needs to be a consequence for what y'all have done. Two of my friends THIS WEEK lost it all, both folded their tents forever, everything that they had is gone, to include retirement. One went from a lake house to a 80's single-wide in a hunting camp. y'all did that to him. Your Woohan shutdown destroyed them both, and to a large extent, their families.

So don't be fear mongering and finger pointing down the road... The sonsabiches RIGHT NOW is YOU.

And besides, you forgot a step, where 300m guns just get laid down or confiscated. The only response to your irresponsible fear mongering is COME AND TAKE IT.

So STUFF your Tump-o-matic-messiah bullshit in your southbound hole. I don't care what the problem is 4 elections away. The problem right now is YOU. The problem is, voting for Tumpy sure as hell don't fix NOW by a long shot, and doesn't stop THEN any damn little bit anyway.

To the woodshed for all y'all, DAMMIT. 
This is why I vote for Conservatives.

[skeeter]

You idiots don't get it. If we lose this election, the country is done. Add 30 million illegal aliens to the vote mix and this country is Socialist for the next 3 generations. There IS no new conservative party. There IS no return to American values and small government. We essentially begin our migration towards a Chinese communist style one party rule...so any dissent you think you can make will simply and easily be squashed. At that point, you'll realize what idiocy you've been engaged in...but of course, it will be much too late to do anything but mourn for a nation lost.

Anyone dumb enough to think some new and more staunchly conservative party can rise from such a defeat deserves the coming tyranny of Socialist rule.

You are dead on. But I'm sure the nation's problems look a lot different from a country porch with a view that hasn't changed for a millenium.

[XenaLee]

Fear mongering bullshit.

FIRST: There is no conservatism at all under you guys either. And no return to American values, and certainly not small government.

So what YOU are saying is 'We are already there, so stop fighting it', basically.

Bullshit. Fear mongering bullshit.

Nah, nah. You guys SUCK and there needs to be a consequence for what y'all have done. Two of my friends THIS WEEK lost it all, both folded their tents forever, everything that they had is gone, to include retirement. One went from a lake house to a 80's single-wide in a hunting camp. y'all did that to him. Your Woohan shutdown destroyed them both, and to a large extent, their families.

So don't be fear mongering and finger pointing down the road... The sonsabiches RIGHT NOW is YOU.

And besides, you forgot a step, where 300m guns just get laid down or confiscated. The only response to your irresponsible fear mongering is COME AND TAKE IT.

So STUFF your Tump-o-matic-messiah bullshit in your southbound hole. I don't care what the problem is 4 elections away. The problem right now is YOU. The problem is, voting for Tumpy sure as hell don't fix NOW by a long shot, and doesn't stop THEN any damn little bit anyway.

To the woodshed for all y'all, DAMMIT. 
This is why I vote for Conservatives.

Delusional as ever, I see.   And no, it's not fear mongering and it's not BS.  It's called reality and the grim place we are at .... right now.   

You keep bleating about a mythical "conservatism" and a return to American values... but if Trump loses this November, which means that Biden and the commie-left Democrats win.... there will NEVER be a return to American values.... but a fundamental transformation away from anything and everything previously "American", including traditions, values, history and hope for a better... free... future.

I feel sorry for you, hon.   Because you really can't (or won't) see what we're faced with.  I don't think you'll have to reap the whirlwind of your delusion, however... because I do think Trump will win handily... thanks to a majority of logical, sane and realistic Americans ....understanding only too well what this election means to our future.   And after the election....you won't even gleen that you should say 'thank you' to them for saving the nation from the RL... at least for four more years.   But you probably should.

[catfish1957]

TIME WARP?  Too old?  I

LA's doing  The Tiiiiimeee.  Warp....   Again!!

In a $9T Dollar Dance off...    Wooo. Hooo!!!!

[roamer_1]

Delusional as ever, I see.   And no, it's not fear mongering and it's not BS.  It's called reality and the grim place we are at .... right now.   

You keep bleating about a mythical "conservatism" and a return to American values... but if Trump loses this November, which means that Biden and the commie-left Democrats win.... there will NEVER be a return to American values.... but a fundamental transformation away from anything and everything previously "American", including traditions, values, history and hope for a better... free... future.

I feel sorry for you, hon.   Because you really can't (or won't) see what we're faced with.  I don't think you'll have to reap the whirlwind of your delusion, however... because I do think Trump will win handily... thanks to a majority of logical, sane and realistic Americans ....understanding only too well what this election means to our future.   And after the election....you won't even gleen that you should say 'thank you' to them for saving the nation from the RL... at least for four more years.   But you probably should.

FEAR. And bullcrap.

Thank you? ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME? THANK YOU? FOR WHAT?
The decimation of the dollar at the printing press?
The draconian shutdowns and interruptions in supply chains?
The chickenshit inability to quell actual sedition in the streets and put the collaborators in jail?
Not just no. Oh HELL no.

[catfish1957]

You are dead on. But I'm sure the nation's problems look a lot different from a country porch with a view that hasn't changed for a millenium.

OTOH, Uniparty generated apocalyptic Dystopiaville from fiscal disaster will hit him last.  They'll just be clouds of smoke in the distance.

[skeeter]

OTOH, Uniparty generated apocalyptic Dystopiaville from fiscal disaster will hit him last.  They'll just be clouds of smoke in the distance.

Probably true. But I will take my advise from those a bit closer to the actual problem.

[XenaLee]

FEAR. And bullcrap.

Thank you? ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME? THANK YOU? FOR WHAT?
The decimation of the dollar at the printing press?
The draconian shutdowns and interruptions in supply chains?
The chickenshit inability to quell actual sedition in the streets and put the collaborators in jail?
Not just no. Oh HELL no.

Reality sucks.   But instead of howling at the moon because of this reality we're in.... you might try coming to grips with what we're actually faced with NOW...if the Democrats win the White House and even one branch of Congress.   That decimation of the dollar will be turbo-speed destroyed.... as blanket amnesty will encourage every illegal on the planet to flood to AmeriKa for "free shit"....as taxes are raised on the current slaves to "G".   

You won't, however, have to worry about any more temporary shutdowns or sedition in the streets.... since the plandemic will evaporate like it never happened... and the rioters will go back to their mommys' basement until any future orders to reappear and act up... which probably won't happen again, since Republicans probably will never win another election.

[libertybele]

They should be afraid.  The party as a whole has done nothing for the voters who elected them.  And this failure has been going on since long before Trump came along.  I guess many of them thought that by hanging on to the coat tails of an enormously popular president, they wouldn't have to do anything to show why voters should continue to elect them.  Well, that popular president may not be so popular anymore and now these bums with nothing else to offer are realizing their political futures aren't so secure now as they might have been before.

If Trump goes down in flames, the rest of the party will go down with him.  And quite frankly, if that should happen, I will be cheering.  It's long past time the stupid party is destroyed and a real conservative party takes its place.

@Applewood  I think you may want to think through that thought again. Would I like to see a real conservative party in place?  Absolutely.  But, IMHO once the GOP(GOPe) goes down as we know it today, our Republic will crumble.  Take a look at who is seated in the DEM party right now; Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and Ayanna Pressley , better known as "The  Squad" (as one example). They aren't your typical liberals they are radical leftist liberal extremists who are promoting and advocating socialism (if not communism).  Pelosi has even veered even more to the left because of them.  They appeal to the millennial radical left; several of their seats have been challenged, not only have they retained their seats but their challengers are just as radical.  I find this all very alarming. Certainly the situation represents an open door to Sharia law and the over throw over our government.

Anyway you look at the situation, if/when these leftists take over, (and Biden is already touting some of their policies as his campaign promises) amnesty will be granted.  There is no way mathematically than any GOP will be seated; and certainly no chance of a new and improved conservative party taking hold.

Do you honestly think that these radical leftists and the remainder of the DEM party will not dismantle and FOREVER change our Rule of Law??  Once they do, they retain the power that they've been working towards for decades.  The will ensure through their own laws, to retain power.  Much like LBJ's Great Society ensured the DEM vote only now the DEMS will be ensuring a complete takeover of our country by radical extremists and illegals so that no conservative or even moderate party will ever have a foothold in this country. Perhaps by revolution or civil war, but certainly not at the ballot box.

[catfish1957]

Probably true. But I will take my advise from those a bit closer to the actual problem.

Roamer's a friend of mine here, and he's maybe one of just a few here not voting for Trump.  I refused to vote for Trump in '16, and my vote went to a conservative 3rd party candidate, whose name I can't even remember.  I still can not stand Trump, but see this as a last stand against a sociialist onslaught.  Because when that tap is started, there is no shutting it off.  With Trump, and hopefully, a GOP senate, there is at least a tiny tiny chance of returning some fiscal sanity.

I am a 100% fiscal Hawk, some goons here call me a one trick issue pony, but realize none of it really matters if the economy unravels to shreds.

So I can see Roamer's outlook.  I cringe daily at the Trump Tweet-speak.  IN 1788 we had a choice between Washington and Adams.  In 2020....   Trump v. Biden.  Sad our country has fallen to this point. Don't we deserve better than this?

[Bigun]

Roamer's a friend of mine here, and he's maybe one of just a few here not voting for Trump.  I refused to vote for Trump in '16, and my vote went to a conservative 3rd party candidate, whose name I can't even remember.  I still can not stand Trump, but see this as a last stand against a sociialist onslaught.  Because when that tap is started, there is no shutting it off.  With Trump, and hopefully, a GOP senate, there is at least a tiny tiny chance of returning some fiscal sanity.

I am a 100% fiscal Hawk, some goons here call me a one trick issue pony, but realize none of it really matters if the economy unravels to shreds.

So I can see Roamer's outlook.  I cringe daily at the Trump Tweet-speak.  IN 1788 we had a choice between Washington and Adams.  In 2020....   Trump v. Biden.  Sad our country has fallen to this point. Don't we deserve better than this?

@roamer_1 is, and I fervently hope, shall always remain a friend of mine as well @catfish1957. I simply disagree with his "burn it all down and rebuild from the ashes" plan. And that is exactly what he is espousing although he says he's not.

[roamer_1]

Reality sucks.   But instead of howling at the moon because of this reality we're in.... you might try coming to grips with what we're actually faced with NOW...if the Democrats win the White House and even one branch of Congress.   

Bullcrap. I sure as HELL won't vote for a democrat, but I sure as hell won't vote for y'all niether.

That decimation of the dollar will be turbo-speed destroyed....

No, that's happening RIGHT NOW. In a few days,  Tumpy will be heading past doubling what Obama spent in eight years... Done in FOUR. GET THIS: Y'all are TWICE the fools the Democrats are when it comes to spending WAKE UP!

as blanket amnesty will encourage every illegal on the planet to flood to AmeriKa for "free shit"....as taxes are raised on the current slaves to "G".

He's racking up DACA reforms RIGHT NOW. 

You won't, however, have to worry about any more temporary shutdowns or sedition in the streets.... since the plandemic will evaporate like it never happened... and the rioters will go back to their mommys' basement until any future orders to reappear and act up... which probably won't happen again, since Republicans probably will never win another election.

FEAR is an amazing thing. Anybody else took all your treasure and barricaded you in your room, when you got out, you'd be coming to carve off a chunk of his ass.

But here is the same dang thing, and not only is there no thought of consequences in your head, but you're gonna ask for MORE. 

And folks are playing the hick card on me... Appeals to modernity and authority, and how I don't understand... But I do. And I am glad as hell to be up in here, far away from the destruction y'all are bringing on your own selves.

[DCPatriot]

Fear mongering bullshit.

FIRST: There is no conservatism at all under you guys either. And no return to American values, and certainly not small government.

So what YOU are saying is 'We are already there, so stop fighting it', basically.

Bullshit. Fear mongering bullshit.

Nah, nah. You guys SUCK and there needs to be a consequence for what y'all have done. Two of my friends THIS WEEK lost it all, both folded their tents forever, everything that they had is gone, to include retirement. One went from a lake house to a 80's single-wide in a hunting camp. y'all did that to him. Your Woohan shutdown destroyed them both, and to a large extent, their families.

So don't be fear mongering and finger pointing down the road... The sonsabiches RIGHT NOW is YOU.

And besides, you forgot a step, where 300m guns just get laid down or confiscated. The only response to your irresponsible fear mongering is COME AND TAKE IT.

So STUFF your Tump-o-matic-messiah bullshit in your southbound hole. I don't care what the problem is 4 elections away. The problem right now is YOU. The problem is, voting for Tumpy sure as hell don't fix NOW by a long shot, and doesn't stop THEN any damn little bit anyway.

To the woodshed for all y'all, DAMMIT. 
This is why I vote for Conservatives.

My Sicilian grandmother used to put a silver quarter into the frying pan whenever she cooked mushrooms...so you don't end up eating a hallucigen.

You should try that, @roamer_1   Ya just can't eat any old mushroom growing behind your outhouse.

[skeeter]

Roamer's a friend of mine here, and he's maybe one of just a few here not voting for Trump.  I refused to vote for Trump in '16, and my vote went to a conservative 3rd party candidate, whose name I can't even remember.  I still can not stand Trump, but see this as a last stand against a sociialist onslaught.  Because when that tap is started, there is no shutting it off.  With Trump, and hopefully, a GOP senate, there is at least a tiny tiny chance of returning some fiscal sanity.

I am a 100% fiscal Hawk, some goons here call me a one trick issue pony, but realize none of it really matters if the economy unravels to shreds.

So I can see Roamer's outlook.  I cringe daily at the Trump Tweet-speak.  IN 1788 we had a choice between Washington and Adams.  In 2020....   Trump v. Biden.  Sad our country has fallen to this point. Don't we deserve better than this?

I do not necessarily disagree with any of this, except frankly I do not understand the extreme antipathy some self described conservatives have towards Trump. Relatively speaking, he's been pretty damn good for us and I can describe how.

[libertybele]

FEAR. And bullcrap.

Thank you? ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME? THANK YOU? FOR WHAT?
The decimation of the dollar at the printing press?
The draconian shutdowns and interruptions in supply chains?
The chickenshit inability to quell actual sedition in the streets and put the collaborators in jail?
Not just no. Oh HELL no.

@roamer_1  EVERY single point that you make I absolutely agree with and there is no denying the truth in what you are saying. None.

The alternative is the DEM party which has become a very radical party with subversives within the House chamber of Congress.

There is no viable 3rd party candidate that is going to win as to the best of my knowledge, no 3rd party candidate has even made it onto the ballot in all 50 states; therefore no way to win.  You can't win if you can't get onto the ballot.  Many states will not count a vote on a write in candidate that hasn't at least qualified. 

EVERY point that you have mentioned I agree with and I am deadset against and Trump has now put on the table a roadway to citizenship for DACA which I am also deadset against.

I will not be cheering however, when our country falls.  I'm afraid we will see a bloodbath in the streets.  Those of us who live in the burbs instead of the country will have no way to escape what's coming down the pike. I also think at that point in time the U.N. (who I believe is quietly waiting in the wings) will insert themselves to accommodate the takeover.  Some of us may survive, your chances much more likely; but our country WILL be under different rule and the Rule of Law will be changed dramatically.

[roamer_1]

My Sicilian grandmother used to put a silver quarter into the frying pan whenever she cooked mushrooms...so you don't end up eating a hallucigen.

You should try that, @roamer_1   Ya just can't eat any old mushroom growing behind your outhouse.

I am about all out of mushrooms. Because your dingbat party shut everything down...

[roamer_1]

I do not necessarily disagree with any of this, except frankly I do not understand the extreme antipathy some self described conservatives have towards Trump. Relatively speaking, he's been pretty damn good for us and I can describe how.

Baubles and candy thrown from the front of the parade. NOTHING he has done, or can do, offsets the egregious overspending, mishandling of the China Flu (with draconian shutdown for bonus points), and sedition in the streets.

You got nothing.
Any argument you make is akin to 'Mussolini made the trains run on time'.

[skeeter]

And folks are playing the hick card on me... Appeals to modernity and authority, and how I don't understand... But I do. And I am glad as hell to be up in here, far away from the destruction y'all are bringing on your own selves.

I'm just hoping you'll consider the possibility that many issues facing the nation today have an immediacy that isn't as apparent where you live.

Believe it or not where some of us live worrying about the federal budget has become a kind of luxury - an academic exercise. Dramatic and very negative changes to our lives from other quarters are at this point imminent.

It doesn't matter if you accept this or not. But it is the truth.

[EdinVA]

I'm just hoping you'll consider the possibility that many issues facing the nation today have an immediacy that isn't as apparent where you live.

Believe it or not where some of us live worrying about the federal budget has become a kind of luxury - an academic exercise. Dramatic and very negative changes to our lives from other quarters are at this point imminent.

It doesn't matter if you accept this or not. But it is the truth.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1  EVERY single point that you make I absolutely agree with and there is no denying the truth in what you are saying. None.

The alternative is the DEM party which has become a very radical party with subversives within the House chamber of Congress.

The alternative is a distraction, regardless. What is important is consequences for actions. In order to have profit, there must be risk, and in order for there to be risk there must be consequence for failure. For UTTER failure... There NEEDS to be a woodshed, or 'we' are nothing different than the Democrats.

I will not be cheering however, when our country falls.  I'm afraid we will see a bloodbath in the streets.  Those of us who live in the burbs instead of the country will have no way to escape what's coming down the pike. I also think at that point in time the U.N. (who I believe is quietly waiting in the wings) will insert themselves to accommodate the takeover.  Some of us may survive, your chances much more likely; but our country WILL be under different rule and the Rule of Law will be changed dramatically.

I know this sounds off, but if that is where we are, I would hope to see that civil war. At least that means there's enough like me that have kept their mud and kept their sand, and enough steeled to the cause to make a worry. And if it must, then bring it now. Not after several more iterations of shutdown and strife, wearing everything thin till all are begging for it (because that is what they are doing).

Nah. If we are there, then bring it. At least I can renew liberty for my grandchildren. I am not afraid of that. That is a hill to die on. Far better than this mumbling idiot taking our treasure and liberty a bit at a time... Frog in the pot and all.

[roamer_1]

I'm just hoping you'll consider the possibility that many issues facing the nation today have an immediacy that isn't as apparent where you live.

Believe it or not where some of us live worrying about the federal budget has become a kind of luxury - an academic exercise. Dramatic and very negative changes to our lives from other quarters are at this point imminent.

It doesn't matter if you accept this or not. But it is the truth.

I see where you are. And it came here too. The reason it didn't stick is because a couple hundred rednecks and bikers showed up ready. Come and get some. Turns out Antifa lost their appetite, and stayed in the park and protested peacefully till they figured out the rednecks and bikers were changing shifts, and were not going to go away. And there's a whole helluva lot where that came from.

Your liberty is your own to lose. If y'all won't throw your chips on the table, then you suffer your own loss. It will only get worse. And Tumpy is not going to save you.

[Bigun]

I know this sounds off, but if that is where we are, I would hope to see that civil war.

I sincerely believe that is going to happen regardless of who gets elected in November.  Either way it goes, the other side will NOT accept it.

[skeeter]

I see where you are. And it came here too. The reason it didn't stick is because a couple hundred rednecks and bikers showed up ready. Come and get some. Turns out Antifa lost their appetite, and stayed in the park and protested peacefully till they figured out the rednecks and bikers were changing shifts, and were not going to go away. And there's a whole helluva lot where that came from.

Your liberty is your own to lose. If y'all won't throw your chips on the table, then you suffer your own loss. It will only get worse. And Tumpy is not going to save you.

No, it hasn't come there. And you would be more convincing if you'd  lay off the condescension.

[catfish1957]

I sincerely believe that is going to happen regardless of who gets elected in November.  Either way it goes, the other side will no accept it.

I thought that too.  Feel it will be close enough that both under the circumstances will feel it was stolen. 

And add the fact, and after addtional film has come out almost exonerating the cops in the Floyd case of murder......   We are looking at a powder keg.

[roamer_1]

I sincerely believe that is going to happen regardless of who gets elected in November.  Either way it goes, the other side will no accept it.

The sign is on the ground. It may still be turned. But prolly not.
I am making ready for it. Doubling my stores, fixin to hunker down... Another year would be nice. I can live in an outfitter's tent, but a cabin would be WAY better.