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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2020, 03:27:33 pm »
I thought that too.  Feel it will be close enough that both under the circumstances will feel it was stolen. 

And add the fact, and after addtional film has come out almost exonerating the cops in the Floyd case of murder......   We are looking at a powder keg.

It won't matter if it's close or a landslide for Trump IMHO.
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2020, 03:30:17 pm »
No, it hasn't come there. And you would be more convincing if you'd  lay off the condescension.

Oh, but yes it has. Folks just would not stand for it. Same in Coeur D'Alene... Same all over. They tried to bring it past the suburbs and bring it to the rurals... But they were met with folks that know how to draw a hard line. So they collapsed back into the cities where folks will put up with it.

And I am not meaning to be condescending. Just speaking truth.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2020, 03:39:54 pm »
Oh, but yes it has. Folks just would not stand for it. Same in Coeur D'Alene... Same all over. They tried to bring it past the suburbs and bring it to the rurals... But they were met with folks that know how to draw a hard line. So they collapsed back into the cities where folks will put up with it.

And I am not meaning to be condescending. Just speaking truth.
I’m not talking about a few skinny creeps in black playing commando. I’m talking about being overwhelmed by hordes of voters with completely different values than my own. About being stripped of your voice and consigned to live in a socialist single party state. Deprived of the means to make a living. Living in a society that has decriminalized crime and has criminalized god given liberties. It’s here, now.

If only we had Antifa to worry about.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2020, 03:47:27 pm »
I'm just hoping you'll consider the possibility that many issues facing the nation today have an immediacy that isn't as apparent where you live.

Believe it or not where some of us live worrying about the federal budget has become a kind of luxury - an academic exercise. Dramatic and very negative changes to our lives from other quarters are at this point imminent.

It doesn't matter if you accept this or not. But it is the truth.

Exactly. Perspective is a sobering reality. Though for many years I made my home in the rural mountains of Northern California but now I live in Brooklyn, and so (your, and) my perspective might be a tad different from mountain dwellers of the northern United States.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2020, 03:50:14 pm »
Exactly. Perspective is a sobering reality. Though for many years I made my home in the rural mountains of Northern California but now I live in Brooklyn, and so (your, and) my perspective might be a tad different from mountain dwellers of the northern United States.
The ultimate response From mountain dwellers is ‘run away’ which I suppose is an option. But some of us stuck in blue areas can be pretty stubborn too. Just not under any illusions.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2020, 03:51:08 pm »
I’m not talking about a few skinny creeps in black playing commando. I’m talking about being overwhelmed by hordes of voters with completely different values than my own. About being stripped of your voice and consigned to live in a socialist single party state. Deprived of the means to make a living. Living in a society that has decriminalized crime and has criminalized god given liberties. It’s here, now.

If only we had Antifa to worry about.

Yeah, I know what that is too... That's why I am here instead of Chicago. Why you would stay is something we have spoken of before, but remains completely beyond me. Go get among like-minded and prepare a place for your family. Even if it is nothing more than a hunting cabin up in the sticks... The time's coming that such a place will be a sanctuary.

It's what I am doing, and will be doing for all the future. The longer i have, the better off we'll be... But I will be living there and making a way for them to come when the time is at hand.

I see it plain as day. I just know better than to be in the middle of it when it pops  :shrug:

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2020, 03:51:53 pm »
My biggest concern is that the Democrat-registered @roamer_1 's in their Party merely opt out...STAY HOME, rather than turning out for Pres. Trump.

After 5 years of "Orangeman Bad", where is THEIR motivation?

Will the 40-80 year-old Democrat Voter show up?  Or sit it out?    :shrug:
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2020, 03:55:39 pm »
Exactly. Perspective is a sobering reality. Though for many years I made my home in the rural mountains of Northern California but now I live in Brooklyn, and so (your, and) my perspective might be a tad different from mountain dwellers of the northern United States.

The ultimate response From mountain dwellers is ‘run away’ which I suppose is an option. But some of us stuck in blue areas can be pretty stubborn too. Just not under any illusions.

Naw. I am diggin in like a tick. The only difference is that I am choosing the dog.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2020, 03:57:20 pm »
My biggest concern is that the Democrat-registered @roamer_1 's in their Party merely opt out...STAY HOME, rather than turning out for Pres. Trump.

After 5 years of "Orangeman Bad", where is THEIR motivation?

Will the 40-80 year-old Democrat Voter show up?  Or sit it out?    :shrug:

Another drive-by slur. Because it's all you've got, @DCPatriot . Sad.  **nononono*

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2020, 04:00:50 pm »
I’m not talking about a few skinny creeps in black playing commando. I’m talking about being overwhelmed by hordes of voters with completely different values than my own. About being stripped of your voice and consigned to live in a socialist single party state. Deprived of the means to make a living. Living in a society that has decriminalized crime and has criminalized god given liberties. It’s here, now.

If only we had Antifa to worry about.

You can also vote with your feet. And deprive them of your work and taxes. Otherwise they are going to consume you.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2020, 04:01:06 pm »
My biggest concern is that the Democrat-registered @roamer_1 's in their Party merely opt out...STAY HOME, rather than turning out for Pres. Trump.

After 5 years of "Orangeman Bad", where is THEIR motivation?    :shrug:
Same place as our’s - self preservation.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2020, 04:03:30 pm »
You can also vote with your feet. And deprive them of your work and taxes. Otherwise they are going to consume you.
If my own life were my only consideration. I have progeny.

If you’ll forgive the macho metaphor, that’d be like surrendering the beach To the enemy only to have to face them in the back country.
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2020, 04:10:00 pm »
I’m not talking about a few skinny creeps in black playing commando. I’m talking about being overwhelmed by hordes of voters with completely different values than my own. About being stripped of your voice and consigned to live in a socialist single party state. Deprived of the means to make a living. Living in a society that has decriminalized crime and has criminalized god given liberties. It’s here, now.

If only we had Antifa to worry about.

Correct and this is what started it.  By demon-rats.  Hart/Celler act 1965, wanted by JFK, PUT IN BY LBJ & Teddy. They said our demographics would NOT change.   Then DEMON-RAT OBAMA,  brought in MORE...with open borders and make-believe refugees from muslim countries. 

 I’m talking about being overwhelmed by hordes of voters with completely different values than my own.=SKEETER

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2020, 04:10:57 pm »
@roamer_1 is, and I fervently hope, shall always remain a friend of mine as well @catfish1957. I simply disagree with his "burn it all down and rebuild from the ashes" plan. And that is exactly what he is espousing although he says he's not.

And THAT...IS...his plan.

The problem is, there's no "rebuild" from the ashes...there's just ashes.

Roamer is still caught in some old paradigm where a big defeat for the GOP, what he calls the "cost" of electing Trump for those of us apostates who voted for the man, will force a course correction back towards stronger conservatism. When you tell him the addition of 30 million illegal voters to the rolls will forever (at least, for generations) shift our governance to the extreme left...he cries "fearmongering". He's like a man standing on a train track with train bearing down on him...who calls those asking him to step off the tracks "fearmongers". Its deeply delusional...god help us all if they are too many like him. If that turns out to be the case, welcome to Nancy Pelosi's new Peoples Republic of America.
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2020, 04:15:57 pm »
It doesn't matter what they will do. That is nothing but a distraction.
What matters is what the Republicans will do, which is absolutely nothing except rubber stamp spending bills.

There is no fixing this without raising up an opposition. Which Republicans have never had the belly for.

A majority of Pubs may not be worth spit, but you go to war with the army you have not the one you want.

If we lose this war there won't be an opportunity for another fight. The Rats will do what they've done in all the states and cities they have complete control of on a national level. The borders will be porous. Amnesty will be passed. Ballot harvesting will be implemented nationally. The courts will be stacked. Govt. will assume control of health care. Gun ownership will be destroyed. Globalism will be kicked into high drive.

IOW, the Rats will make sure the peasants never revolt again.
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2020, 04:16:02 pm »
Correct and this is what started it.  By demon-rats.  Hart/Celler act 1965, wanted by JFK, PUT IN BY LBJ & Teddy. They said our demographics would NOT change.   Then DEMON-RAT OBAMA,  brought in MORE...with open borders and make-believe refugees from muslim countries. 

 I’m talking about being overwhelmed by hordes of voters with completely different values than my own.=SKEETER

Most are decent human beings, I’m sure. They just do not believe what I believe. And contrary to the Pollyannas in our party most probably never will. Nevertheless their votes will carry the day. Today in CA and tomorrow the rest of the nation.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2020, 04:18:06 pm »
I sincerely believe that is going to happen regardless of who gets elected in November.  Either way it goes, the other side will NOT accept it.

I would like to think that, but, if we see a Biden win I don't think we'll see any protests or rioting. Too many think we'll have another chance to change things at the ballot box in the future (wrong, wrong, wrong).  Trump wins on the other hand, we'll see a civil war if not worse.  The left has been pushing for their civil war for quite awhile; one in which they think they will win and they will IF indeed the rumors about U.N. troops already in this country, quietly waiting for the takeover is true.  IF not, they are going to  be met with a resistance that they never counted on.  Just my opinion.
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2020, 04:18:12 pm »
You idiots don't get it. If we lose this election, the country is done. Add 30 million illegal aliens to the vote mix and this country is Socialist for the next 3 generations. There IS no new conservative party. There IS no return to American values and small government. We essentially begin our migration towards a Chinese communist style one party rule...so any dissent you think you can make will simply and easily be squashed. At that point, you'll realize what idiocy you've been engaged in...but of course, it will be much too late to do anything but mourn for a nation lost.

Anyone dumb enough to think some new and more staunchly conservative party can rise from such a defeat deserves the coming tyranny of Socialist rule.

 :amen:

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2020, 04:24:06 pm »
If my own life we’re my only consideration. I have progeny.

If you’ll forgive the macho metaphor, that’d be like surrendering the beach To the enemy only to have to face them in the back country.

The difference between rural America and urban America—besides lifestyle and scenery—is the difference between democrat and republican governance.

The right thing for Americans to do is to make the democrats a permanent minority party in Washington D.C. and in every state House. At the very least republicans will protect all of the bill of rights, not just the parts they like.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2020, 04:25:53 pm »
Another drive-by slur. Because it's all you've got, @DCPatriot . Sad.  **nononono*

It's not a slur at all.   Put on your Big Boy pants if you're going to defend your position.  Or shut the hell up.

You wear us out with your "Ain't my circus..." bullshit.  You wear it like some badge of honor... tsk, tsk, the irony.

You said you weren't going to vote for the President because there's no difference between them.

You are the epitome of a Radical Right-Wing Extremist...even though you're essentially a one-issue pony on the forum.

I'm free to compare the loss of your interest/vote in the GOP this November ... to the disinterested, overwhelmed Democrat who wishes a sane moderate Democrat existed. 

One that will, too, STAY HOME.   Like you.  Figuratively or literally.
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #70 on: August 07, 2020, 04:27:15 pm »
I sincerely believe that is going to happen regardless of who gets elected in November.  Either way it goes, the other side will NOT accept it.

I also think we are moving in that direction, there is no reconciliation or room for compromise with the leftist Rats. If the Pubs win big and the Rats won't accept it we should begin the process of figuring out how to go our separate ways without having to kill each other. Nations change over time, eastern Europe went through this after we defeated the Soviet Union.
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2020, 04:27:39 pm »
:amen:

The problem is those of us who place a high value on our liberty get dragged down with them.

No. It is the rest of us that refuse to reward the constant erosion our liberty that are being dragged down by those who keep voting for people who are taking our liberty. Just a little less.

There is nothing more liberty destroying long term than some 6+ trillion dollars of printed money over the last 4 years. Everyone with savings are paying heavily for it. People saving money is something conservatives used to encourage. But the GOP is actively destroying those who do.

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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2020, 04:36:27 pm »
I also think we are moving in that direction, there is no reconciliation or room for compromise with the leftist Rats. If the Pubs win big and the Rats won't accept it we should begin the process of figuring out how to go our separate ways without having to kill each other. Nations change over time, eastern Europe went through this after we defeated the Soviet Union.

So you think only the Democrats will up the violence if Trump wins.  What about Trump supporters, should Trump lose?

Trump has already lined up those he intends to blame if he loses. And while he may not directly advocate for violence, his faithful followers are already ginned up, accusing anyone who does not support or vote for Trump as traitors.  The kindling is already in place. All that's needed is a match. 

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« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2020, 04:36:55 pm »
The difference between rural America and urban America—besides lifestyle and scenery—is the difference between democrat and republican governance.

The right thing for Americans to do is to make the democrats a permanent minority party in Washington D.C. and in every state House. At the very least republicans will protect all of the bill of rights, not just the parts they like.

This one picture should tell anyone anything they need to know about this.



It'a a county by county map of the 2016 election results.
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Re: Republicans fear disaster in November
« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2020, 04:37:57 pm »
@roamer_1

You said: "No, that's happening RIGHT NOW. In a few days,  Tumpy will be heading past doubling what Obama spent in eight years... Done in FOUR. GET THIS: Y'all are TWICE the fools the Democrats are when it comes to spending WAKE UP!"

You are so right.  Because Trump gives people tacky names, I will do the same for him: "Spending/hamburger/coke/fat Trump" thinks our money is his money.  He filed for bankruptcy five times.  This time he is bankrupting our country.

"Spending/personality disorder" Trump, "ruled" by Executive Orders instead of going through congress.  If Biden, or another Democrat they manage to put in place of him, is president, the first action this person will take is cancelling all "Spending" Trump's Executive Orders immediately. 

Because "Learning Disabled" Trump shut down the country, supply lines failed.  There is a shortage of food so food prices are up and numerous grocery items are gone.  Some may never come back as farmers plowed under their crops since they could not sell them and some will not grow crops again as they don't have the money to do it. 

I have watched soups in grocery stores; well, let me change that - I have Bob check soups when he goes to the grocery; I am stuck at home.  Soups with meat in them are scarce; they are sold out quickly when shelves are restocked.  Take a look on Amazon for soups.  Those with beef meat are few; there are some chicken ones but some of those continue to be out. 

There is a reason for this.  One can live on soups with meat forever - a can of soup has liquid in it so it hydrates a person and that saves on water.  Meat and vegetables are there; heating the soup is all that is required and even that is not actually required; they can be eaten cold if there is no way to heat them. 

Smart people are stocking up on soup so they can feed the family no matter what "never asked God for forgiveness" Trump does. Check on crackers at the store.  Is it fully stocked?  Because regular bread molds so is not long term stocked, crackers can be and we are used to crackers with soup.  Numerous foods are imported and those may never come back.  Check on bottled water.  Does that section look like it did before the virus? 

Okay, I went from your spending post to people preparing for an unknown future and that requires money.  Millions of people right now have no job/incoming money and now the govn. has stopped their existence money. 

I will stop writing after I tell you this story I saw on TV yesterday:

In a California town, people were in a very long line, a thousand or more of people in person not in their cars, waiting for a box of food.  Some came in the middle of the night in order to be closer to the front of the line than those arriving later.

The reporter went up to a man in line.  He looked to be in his mid 30s.  This man was laid off some months ago and cannot find a job to feed his family.  He was near tears as he spoke to the reporter.  All those people without food and it is all over the country. 

roamer_1, How can this be fixed?