Trump on Ghislaine Maxwell: ‘I wish her well’

[XenaLee]

The same damn tired argument, every four years.

Except that.... this time, this year.... it has never been more clear....

that there really IS no other choice....

for anyone with the ability to reason and deduce correctly.  JS....

[roamer_1]

Except that.... this time, this year.... it has never been more clear....

that there really IS no other choice....

for anyone with the ability to reason and deduce correctly.  JS....

Same damn excuse for the same damn argument every four years. 

[Smokin Joe]

The same damn tired argument, every four years.

It is.

Well, you know how I feel about returning to Original Intent, and I haven't lost that goal, nor lost sight of the principles behind it.
There is a lot of bad land between here and that mountaintop, and until the Left has an epiphany, we send them off to 'summer camp' or a foreign land, or Yeshua returns, it's what we got.

I really wish we could argue over the relative merits between a Sam Adams and a Thomas Jefferson, but it is looking like we're going to be down to getting either (or sitting it out) a Global Communist placeholder crook or Trump.
The former will likely result in armed conflict when they come for our guns.

Like momma used to say.
That's what's for dinner, (eat or go hungry).

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee

 

You said: "Your implication here being.... that anyone that "interacted" with Epstein and Maxwell... IN ANY WAY... is automatically guilty of the same crimes they are/were guilty of... right?   Or is it only Trump and Trump associates that would be deemed guilty, in your small mind?"
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I did not say that, you did.  Barr, as Attorney General, will likely be involved in the case just as he was with Epstein.  Epstein was in a Federal Prison when he died, and it was Barr that started the investigation about Epstein's death because he died in that federal prison, of which Barr is responsible for its administration since it IS a federal prison.

@Victoria33

And clearly (reading comprehension?).... I did not say that you did say that (sheesh).   I did say that you basically implied, however..... by this comment of yours....

The reason I bring Barr into this is to point out Barr and Trump both interacted with Epstein and Maxwell.

And no, your comment had nothing to do with Barr handling the investigation into Epstein's death.  But nice save attempt.  Your implication had to do with the "interaction" (your term, not mine) that Barr has had with Epstein.  You seem to conveniently forget the rest of what you posted:

Barr connection with Epstein:

"This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a couple of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age."

So you can skip the Obama-like attempt at parsing.   I'm not falling for it.  And I doubt that anyone else is, either.

[XenaLee]

Same damn excuse for the same damn argument every four years. 

It's not an excuse.  It's reality.  I would say "try it"... but I know you'd object.   

[roamer_1]

It is.

Well, you know how I feel about returning to Original Intent, and I haven't lost that goal, nor lost sight of the principles behind it.
There is a lot of bad land between here and that mountaintop, and until the Left has an epiphany, we send them off to 'summer camp' or a foreign land, or Yeshua returns, it's what we got.

Yes I do know... And I know that @libertybele , @XenaLee , and @Bigun and others that I have fought alongside of for many many years are there too... But sooner or later you've got to draw a hard line. It ain't all we got - It's what all y'all will settle for

I really wish we could argue over the relative merits between a Sam Adams and a Thomas Jefferson [...]

My non-argument quotient is in direct correlation to the number  of Sam Adams I have consumed, So I would wish for the same  TomJeff need not be there at all. 

but it is looking like we're going to be down to getting either (or sitting it out) a Global Communist placeholder crook or Trump.

That assumes Tump is an alternative... The global hotel chain corporate crony that he is, that assumption seems rosy, to say the least.

The former will likely result in armed conflict when they come for our guns.

Better now than later then.

Like momma used to say.
That's what's for dinner, (eat or go hungry).

(I can feed myself.)

[Smokin Joe]

Yes I do know... And I know that @libertybele , @XenaLee , and @Bigun and others that I have fought alongside of for many many years are there too... But sooner or later you've got to draw a hard line. It ain't all we got - It's what all y'all will settle for

My non-argument quotient is in direct correlation to the number  of Sam Adams I have consumed, So I would wish for the same  TomJeff need not be there at all. 

That assumes Tump is an alternative... The global hotel chain corporate crony that he is, that assumption seems rosy, to say the least.

Better now than later then.



(I can feed myself.)

[roamer_1]

It's not an excuse.  It's reality.  I would say "try it"... but I know you'd object.   

No, it is not reality. Reality is TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of printed money and being forced into compliance wearing masks, and your business being shut off by edict. If that don't say 'throw them bastards out ' to you, nothing they do ever will.

[Smokin Joe]

No, it is not reality. Reality is TRILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of printed money and being forced into compliance wearing masks, and your business being shut off by edict. If that don't say 'throw them bastards out ' to you, nothing they do ever will.

In all fairness, Trump never issued any mask requirement.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yes I do know... And I know that @libertybele , @XenaLee , and @Bigun and others that I have fought alongside of for many many years are there too... But sooner or later you've got to draw a hard line. It ain't all we got - It's what all y'all will settle for

My non-argument quotient is in direct correlation to the number  of Sam Adams I have consumed, So I would wish for the same  TomJeff need not be there at all. 

That assumes Tump is an alternative... The global hotel chain corporate crony that he is, that assumption seems rosy, to say the least.

Better now than later then.



(I can feed myself.)

You're always welcome to come grill that fish on my grill on the porch.  (I have an indoors one, too...a Jenn-Air.)

I'll bring the Adult Beverages from the Castle Bar.   

[roamer_1]

In all fairness, Trump never issued any mask requirement.

He was standing right up there next to Fauxi. I cry bullcrap.

[roamer_1]

You're always welcome to come grill that fish on my grill on the porch.  (I have an indoors one, too...a Jenn-Air.)

I'll bring the Adult Beverages from the Castle Bar.   

That would have to work the other way around... Fish don't keep, and trout or salmon are always best right from the river into the frying pan... But you are welcome to come on up and  try to find me 

[Smokin Joe]

He was standing right up there next to Fauxi. I cry bullcrap.

Fauxi also said HCQ was no good. Dr. Zelenko's video was censored by Yutube because it did not conform  to the CDC/WHO dogma.
If Trump has his hand up that one's back, the mouth controls get away from him from time to time.

[Cyber Liberty]

He was standing right up there next to Fauxi. I cry bullcrap.

Irrelevant.  Fauxi proposed many things the President did not dispose.  The point is, Trump issued no such orders concerning masks, the Governors did.  Guilt by association doesn't work in this example.

[roamer_1]

Fauxi also said HCQ was no good. Dr. Zelenko's video was censored by Yutube because it did not conform  to the CDC/WHO dogma.
If Trump has his hand up that one's back, the mouth controls get away from him from time to time.

Don't much care. He sure as hell don't get a pass. I was *for* him in this at first, but he folded like a 2 dollar lawn chair. He don't get to come out clean after that, even if they fooled him into it.

And I am not limiting this to Tumpy the wunderclown either, you might notice. This all happened during a 2/3rds Republican government. ALL them Republicans are culpable. ALL of em.

They are not in opposition, they are in collusion... But all y'all will vote em all right back in there. Jussayin.

[roamer_1]

Irrelevant.  Fauxi proposed many things the President did not dispose.  The point is, Trump issued no such orders concerning masks, the Governors did.  Guilt by association doesn't work in this example.

Wrong. He's just as guilty as the rest of em.

[skeeter]

Why should I help that which I am adamantly opposed to?

Because when the left wins this time it’ll be California writ large. All over - kaput. The GOP, which can be useful on occasion now, with relief will join hands with the progressives as a matter of survival. One party rule.

Regardless of what you say I know you’re opposed to that.

[Smokin Joe]

Don't much care. He sure as hell don't get a pass. I was *for* him in this at first, but he folded like a 2 dollar lawn chair. He don't get to come out clean after that, even if they fooled him into it.

And I am not limiting this to Tumpy the wunderclown either, you might notice. This all happened during a 2/3rds Republican government. ALL them Republicans are culpable. ALL of em.

They are not in opposition, they are in collusion... But all y'all will vote em all right back in there. Jussayin.

Okay, you got me thinking.

It's that for lack of other choices...

 or I'm voting for the most communistshitbirds I can just so you and everyone else will pickup their scatterguns and help settle this while I (we) can still hump a ruck.

If the Communists win by a landslide maybe enough people will cry foul that we can get somewhere before we're taken out with an air strike--because they'll use them.

What else do you propose?

Short of a fortuitous strategic strike or two, I don't see a whole lot else for choices.
The downticket guys in the General are on rails, it's State and local from there.
I know I could sit it out and it wouldn't make one bit of difference in the National Elections.
Trump 2020 flags fly unrepentantly here, in yards, on pickups, on businesses.
The electoral votes from ND will go for him.

[EdinVA]

Wrong. He's just as guilty as the rest of em.

Ok Nancy... 

[roamer_1]

Because when the left wins this time it’ll be California writ large. All over - kaput. The GOP, which can be useful on occasion now, with relief will join hands with the progressives as a matter of survival. One party rule.

Regardless of what you say I know you’re opposed to that.

It is that right now. Sure they fuss at each other and make a show, But they (all) are stealing your fortune (printing money) AND your liberty right from under your nose, and making you like it (vote FOR it). I ain't playing that no more.

If it comes to watering the tree, I'll be along, once my folks are all up in the sticks... Heck, even if all y'all want to throw them bastards out, I will heed that call. But I sure as all hell won't enable this bullsh*t and call it conservative.

[Smokin Joe]

It is that right now. Sure they fuss at each other and make a show, But they (all) are stealing your fortune (printing money) AND your liberty right from under your nose, and making you like it (vote FOR it). I ain't playing that no more.

If it comes to watering the tree, I'll be along, once my folks are all up in the sticks... Heck, even if all y'all want to throw them bastards out, I will heed that call. But I sure as all hell won't enable this bullsh*t and call it conservative.

Oh, hell, bro, who's calling it Conservative? 
The rabid Communist Left?
Compared to them Trotsky was conservative.
It's no guide. And the right is using the same basis, at least in the media. It's what happens when "relatively" should be inserted in there.

But only the left succeeds in earning its label when you use standards based on principle, and even they fail when their "moderate" Joe Stalin wannabes compare themselves to the Pol Pot types.

[Cyber Liberty]

Wrong. He's just as guilty as the rest of em.

That is a walking, talking, textbook example of the "Guilt by Association" fallacy.

[roamer_1]

Okay, you got me thinking.

It's that for lack of other choices...

 or I'm voting for the most communistshitbirds I can just so you and everyone else will pickup their scatterguns and help settle this while I (we) can still hump a ruck.

If the Communists win by a landslide maybe enough people will cry foul that we can get somewhere before we're taken out with an air strike--because they'll use them.

What else do you propose?

I will do neither. To endorse Tump and the Republicans gives them NO consequences for their collusion. And they are ALL commieshitbirds. Anyone who voted all that debt, for starters. How the hell do you reward that with more power? Until you get people in there to OPPOSE this crap, you are allowing (endorsing) it's continuance. I will not.

Short of a fortuitous strategic strike or two, I don't see a whole lot else for choices.
The downticket guys in the General are on rails, it's State and local from there.
I know I could sit it out and it wouldn't make one bit of difference in the National Elections.
Trump 2020 flags fly unrepentantly here, in yards, on pickups, on businesses.
The electoral votes from ND will go for him.

Should have thought of all that when the TEA party was moving and shaking and kept on that trail. That ain't where we are now. Y'all want to drive after that, I can be all for it, but blindly voting status quo is just accepting fate.

[roamer_1]

That is a walking, talking, textbook example of the "Guilt by Association" fallacy.

Birds of a feather. I see no need to defend him.

[roamer_1]

Oh, hell, bro, who's calling it Conservative?

PLENTY right here.