Federal authorities used unmarked minivans to remove Portland protesters from streets: Report

[XenaLee]

I wasn't being coy. Just stating my view from an area full of empty brain pan progressives.

Of course its not our fault.

Ok.  Sorry for the misinterpretation...lol.

[skeeter]

@skeeter
Lucky for you, you’ve got a choice:
You can stick your fingers in your ears and sing LaLaLaLa or you can recognize that your lefty blue neighbors WILL. NOT. STOP.   You can join them, kneel to them or die...they don’t care which.


But make no mistake...it’s coming. They will allow no other course.

My eyes are wide open - wider than many conservatives living elsewhere. Which was my point.

[roamer_1]

My eyes are wide open - wider than many conservatives living elsewhere. Which was my point.

If you can, get out of the way of it... And make a place for your family to come to. A refuge for those that can or will, is better than all y'all swept away by it. Jussayin. I would be SERIOUSLY looking for property in the Sierras, were I you.

[XenaLee]

@skeeter
Lucky for you, you’ve got a choice:
You can stick your fingers in your ears and sing LaLaLaLa or you can recognize that your lefty blue neighbors WILL. NOT. STOP.   You can join them, kneel to them or die...they don’t care which.


But make no mistake...it’s coming. They will allow no other course.

Well he could always "switch hats" whenever the leftie azholes show up at his door.

I have to laugh remembering the ferryman in The Outlaw Josey Wales.   Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

Sim Carstairs : You bet. You know in my line of work, you gotta be able either to sing "The Battle Hymn Of The Republic" or "Dixie" with equal enthusiasm... dependin' upon present company.

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[roamer_1]

The Outlaw Josey Wales.

Dang it. Now I gotta watch that again.

[XenaLee]

Dang it. Now I gotta watch that again.

I love it too!   Especially fond of Chief Dan George.

[skeeter]

Well he could always "switch hats" whenever the leftie azholes show up at his door.

I have to laugh remembering the ferryman in The Outlaw Josey Wales.   Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.


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i could switch hats, but more likely I’ll end up just getting plumb mad dog mean.

[XenaLee]

i could switch hats, but more likely I’ll end up just getting plumb mad dog mean.

Yeah.... as mad as I've gotten (as mad as they've made me....and are still making me)....

I can relate.   

[skeeter]

If you can, get out of the way of it... And make a place for your family to come to. A refuge for those that can or will, is better than all y'all swept away by it. Jussayin. I would be SERIOUSLY looking for property in the Sierras, were I you.

Most of my old HS classmates are up in gold country now, as it seems most folks in my demographic are (bands from the 70s & 80s who are still touring don’t even stop in the Bay Area anymore, they do venues in the Sacramento area & Grass Valley) so I’ll have several options if it ever gets that bad.

[roamer_1]

I love it too!   Especially fond of Chief Dan George.

I guess I am fixin to go on a Clint Eastwood binge... That Dirty Harry "Go ahead punk... Make my day" thing has been rattlin around  in my head... And the Spaghetti Westerns... Yep... I am fixin to go on a roll...

[XenaLee]

I guess I am fixin to go on a Clint Eastwood binge... That Dirty Harry "Go ahead punk... Make my day" thing has been rattlin around  in my head... And the Spaghetti Westerns... Yep... I am fixin to go on a roll...

And while you're at it.... you might want to re-watch the Charles Bronson Deathwish flicks (fits my mood right now).   

[roamer_1]

Most of my old HS classmates are up in gold country now, as it seems most folks in my demographic are (bands from the 70s & 80s who are still touring don’t even stop in the Bay Area anymore, they do venues in the Sacramento area & Grass Valley) so I’ll have several options if it ever gets that bad.

BEFORE it gets bad... It's a thing... A place of refuge has to be prepared - That's before the fact. I'll tell you what... If sh*t goes sideways, you can bet money my whole fam damily will be flying low for the Rockies.Because this is the LAST place that will fall. And in that, I have 20 acres goin on, with another 100 coming, way out past the gravel and up on the two track, all the way the hell out of the way of it...And ain't nobody going up there in the holler but the hillbillies. I'll have crappy cabins on the corners... A place for everyone...

I see it coming, and I will do my best to provide. If it never turns out then I ain't lost much - I would rather be there anyhow, and a 'place for everyone' makes for a gathering at the camp every summer... so nothing is lost.

But if it comes, then I will have provided best I can, Good Lord willing... And they will have a place to come to... Worry about the rest after that. Sure would like a few more years to get the gardens growing,a couple milk cows set on schedule, the turkeys and chickens balanced out... Root cellars dug, and all that... But 'out of the way of it' may have to be good enough, and thank Yah for that much.

[roamer_1]

And while you're at it.... you might want to re-watch the Charles Bronson Deathwish flicks (fits my mood right now).   

*SIGH* I can see it already... I ain't gonna get nothing done this week... 

 

[skeeter]

BEFORE it gets bad... It's a thing... A place of refuge has to be prepared - That's before the fact. I'll tell you what... If sh*t goes sideways, you can bet money my whole fam damily will be flying low for the Rockies.Because this is the LAST place that will fall. And in that, I have 20 acres goin on, with another 100 coming, way out past the gravel and up on the two track, all the way the hell out of the way of it...And ain't nobody going up there in the holler but the hillbillies. I'll have crappy cabins on the corners... A place for everyone...

I see it coming, and I will do my best to provide. If it never turns out then I ain't lost much - I would rather be there anyhow, and a 'place for everyone' makes for a gathering at the camp every summer... so nothing is lost.

But if it comes, then I will have provided best I can, Good Lord willing... And they will have a place to come to... Worry about the rest after that. Sure would like a few more years to get the gardens growing,a couple milk cows set on schedule, the turkeys and chickens balanced out... Root cellars dug, and all that... But 'out of the way of it' may have to be good enough, and thank Yah for that much.

As good as that sounds I don't see how its an option for me - I have kids in the Bay Area and in the Seattle area. Plus I'm kinda pizzed off that I even have to consider leaving. I figure I'll end up going down like Charlton Heston in Khartoum.

[roamer_1]

As good as that sounds I don't see how its an option for me - I have kids in the Bay Area and in the Seattle area. Plus I'm kinda pizzed off that I even have to consider leaving. I figure I'll end up going down like Charlton Heston in Khartoum.

And there's them Tetons, halfway the middle... Jussayin, might be nice waking up to coffee on the deck by a wild mountain lake every morning... Even if nothing comes of it all...

[skeeter]

And there's them Tetons, halfway the middle... Jussayin, might be nice waking up to coffee on the deck by a wild mountain lake every morning... Even if nothing comes of it all...

Well if it does I'll count on you messaging me your coordinates. We don't eat much. 

[PeteS in CA]

My point is... a lot of non-leftist folks are "stuck" in these leftist-run areas.   Economically stuck, and moreso now than ever.

  50 years ago while in high school I chose a promising career, electronics. 42 years ago I decided to move to Silicon Valley instead of the Boston or Houston areas because my aging parents lived just 120 miles or so from the San Jose area. Now, decades later, we're on the edge of SF-Oakland-Berserkeley-Crazy, a degree of crazy that was not foreseeable as recently 5 or 10 years ago, let alone 50 years ago when I chose my career path. So, yeah, 42 years of my life - home, family, church, doctors and dentists, etc. - is here. A time may come when we will move elsewhere, but right now I'd rather see this area turned around, away from the crazy. In my low-key way I contribute things that contribute to such a turn-around.

Writing off whole states because of its crazies - CA, NY, WA, MA, IL, OR ... where does the list end ... or more to the point, where does this list of written-off states become dominant over the whole nation - is the path to the whole nation being turned crazy.

"Colorado" was Ayn Rand's place of refuge in "Atlas", too remote for an inept government to affect. Fiction writers create their own worlds to suit the purpose of their book. But in the real world of the US, there are no safe long-term refuges, and the more communities and states written off, surrendered to the crazies, the tighter and stronger the noose that will strangle the places of what will prove to be temporary and brief refuge.

[Cyber Liberty]

50 years ago while in high school I chose a promising career, electronics. 42 years ago I decided to move to Silicon Valley instead of the Boston or Houston areas because my aging parents lived just 120 miles or so from the San Jose area. Now, decades later, we're on the edge of SF-Oakland-Berserkeley-Crazy, a degree of crazy that was not foreseeable as recently 5 or 10 years ago, let alone 50 years ago when I chose my career path. So, yeah, 42 years of my life - home, family, church, doctors and dentists, etc. - is here. A time may come when we will move elsewhere, but right now I'd rather see this area turned around, away from the crazy. In my low-key way I contribute things that contribute to such a turn-around.

Writing off whole states because of its crazies - CA, NY, WA, MA, IL, OR ... where does the list end ... or more to the point, where does this list of written-off states become dominant over the whole nation - is the path to the whole nation being turned crazy.

My story is similar, 40 years back.  Most of the folks I graduated with chose to move to Silicon Valley, while I remained in the Silicon Desert to stay near my aging parents.  That's where I retired from, and my timing was very fortunate when it came to relocating to my new, smaller town.

[libertybele]

As good as that sounds I don't see how its an option for me - I have kids in the Bay Area and in the Seattle area. Plus I'm kinda pizzed off that I even have to consider leaving. I figure I'll end up going down like Charlton Heston in Khartoum.

Two years ago we sold our home to downsize and had considered moving to the Blue Ridge mountain area -- I decided I didn't want to leave family and our doctors that we've had for years.  In hindsight right now I am kicking myself, we don't have the money nor in good health to leave right now. I'll be going down as well (but not without a fight).

[XenaLee]

50 years ago while in high school I chose a promising career, electronics. 42 years ago I decided to move to Silicon Valley instead of the Boston or Houston areas because my aging parents lived just 120 miles or so from the San Jose area. Now, decades later, we're on the edge of SF-Oakland-Berserkeley-Crazy, a degree of crazy that was not foreseeable as recently 5 or 10 years ago, let alone 50 years ago when I chose my career path. So, yeah, 42 years of my life - home, family, church, doctors and dentists, etc. - is here. A time may come when we will move elsewhere, but right now I'd rather see this area turned around, away from the crazy. In my low-key way I contribute things that contribute to such a turn-around.

Writing off whole states because of its crazies - CA, NY, WA, MA, IL, OR ... where does the list end ... or more to the point, where does this list of written-off states become dominant over the whole nation - is the path to the whole nation being turned crazy.

"Colorado" was Ayn Rand's place of refuge in "Atlas", too remote for an inept government to affect. Fiction writers create their own worlds to suit the purpose of their book. But in the real world of the US, there are no safe long-term refuges, and the more communities and states written off, surrendered to the crazies, the tighter and stronger the noose that will strangle the places of what will prove to be temporary and brief refuge.

And that is why, in a nutshell (pardon expression...lol), moving from a leftie-leaning area.... or running away from it.... just won't work.   No matter where you move 'to'.... sooner or later they're going to come where you are and force the issue (Leftism).   So no, I'll stay and hunker down here and if it comes down to a fight for my life.... I may not be that great of a shot.... but I guarantee that I  will take at least ONE of the azholes with me!  That'll be one less leftie azhole that someone else would have to deal with. 

[Cyber Liberty]

And that is why, in a nutshell (pardon expression...lol), moving from a leftie-leaning area.... or running away from it.... just won't work.   No matter where you move 'to'.... sooner or later they're going to come where you are and force the issue (Leftism).   So no, I'll stay and hunker down here and if it comes down to a fight for my life.... I may not be that great of a shot.... but I guarantee that I  will take at least ONE of the azholes with me!  That'll be one less leftie azhole that someone else would have to deal with.

My new digs has a much better clear fire zone around it than my old place in the 'Burbs.  I'd much rather take them on here than there.  YMMV....

[XenaLee]

My new digs has a much better clear fire zone around it than my old place in the 'Burbs.  I'd much rather take them on here than there.  YMMV....

Do you have smoke bombs, tear gas, a few grenades .... for good measure?   lol

If not, you still have some stocking up to do.

[Cyber Liberty]

Do you have smoke bombs, tear gas, a few grenades .... for good measure?   lol

If not, you still have some stocking up to do.

Shhhhh!

[XenaLee]

Shhhhh!

Oh....right.   What was I thinking?   Silly moi.   

[Cyber Liberty]

Oh....right.   What was I thinking?   Silly moi.   

If you could walk with me around the gravel lawn surrounding the Castle, you would fine the geology of my acre to be pretty daunting for somebody challenging it.  It's a steep embankment that's 50-60 feet from the streets to the Castle, on 3 of the 4 sides.  I tell people, "Yeah I have an acre, and most of it's vertical."