catfish wrote:
"I am kind of in the middle on this one. To me it now feels like a runaway train, and really no solution to correct it. Then add the fact demographically, it is pretty much a given that the dims will have a toe hold in the next 10-20 years as we older and more conservative voters die off."
This is why the only practical "solution" for traditional-minded Euro-descent Americans is "peaceful separation" while such a separation can still be accomplished without major bloodshed.
If the Euos wait until they're in the absolute minority, "the majority" will never "let us go". Not without great conflict, of which there will be no assurance of winning (since by then they'll have the power of the U.S. military on their side).
A breakup of the United States will also result in the breakup of Canada. The heartland of that nation, too, could be appropriated by Euros endeavoring to create "a new homeland" in North America. I can easily see the central provinces and the Yukon "going in with us". Quebec will become the new "French homeland" as the ethnic French are displaced from France itself by muslims.
Short of this solution, there's going to be violent and bloody war, not just a "civil" one, but with racial overtones as well. Who will step up and deny this based on the empirical evidence before us today?
@catfish1957 @Fishrrman The part highlighted is the saddest part for me. I have black friends who are honorable and patriotic people who do the best they can everyday to BE the best they can,and to live honorable lives. I am guessing most of you can say the same thing. These people grew up being taught that the thing to do was get an education,work hard,and be an honest citizen and good parents to your children. This WAS the culture of the 40's and 50's,regardless of your race.
And it pretty much worked,too. Even in the big cities with all-black neighborhoods,the crime level was very low,and unless you got involved in something like gambling or drugs,you pretty much never saw any violence. Hell,you hardly ever heard of any on the news or read of any in the newspapers.
Then the left took control of our government,and everything went all to hell,including the neighborhoods and the families of the very people they promised to help the most.
Never mind honest blacks not being able to trust white people,they can't even trust their own relatives anymore.
The day is going to come when these people are going to be forced by circumstances to take a hard stand,and WAAAY too many of them are going to die regardless of which side they come down on.
And this was ALL planned in Moscow starting back in the 30's. They thought they could incite a civil war/race war in America,and then just step in and take over after the ashes settled.
Well,they WERE wrong in that the USSR no longer exists and won't be taking over anyone,but they were right that they could destroy peace and prosperity in America using their American agents.
It is the children and grandchildren of these traitors that will benefit if they win,and swing from gallows if they lose.
I suspect we will find out in just a few short years. Things are coming to a head rapidly,and that head seems likely to explode regardless of which side wins the election.
