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Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« on: June 19, 2020, 12:38:05 am »
Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
By Jonathan Easley - 06/18/20 06:44 PM EDT



Former Vice President Joe Biden has opened up a 12 point lead over President Trump in the latest Fox News national poll, as a majority of voters say they disapprove of the president’s handling of the protests in response to the police killing of George Floyd.

The survey finds Biden at 50 percent and Trump at 38 percent. Biden led Trump 48 to 40 in the Fox News poll in mid-May. The former vice president has surpassed the 50 percent support mark in the RealClearPolitics average, where he leads Trump nearly 9 points overall.

Trump appears to be dragged down in the Fox News poll by his response to the civil unrest over police treatment of African Americans.


Fifty-six percent of voters said they disapprove of Trump’s response to the demonstrations, while 60 percent have positive views of the protests.

Race has become a major issue in the minds of voters. Eighty-one percent said they’re concerned about racism and about two-thirds of voters said they view racism as a major threat to the stability of the county. About the same number of voters — 67 percent — said coronavirus and unemployment are major threats to the nation’s stability.

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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2020, 12:48:29 am »
I guess we may as well just give up now.
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2020, 01:23:14 am »
I guess we may as well just give up now.

Yes ... polls are so accurate.  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2020, 01:40:31 am »
Yes ... polls are so accurate.  *****rollingeyes*****

I believe this poll is accurate. But the election is in November, not June
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2020, 01:41:47 am »
Expect a whiny tweet from Trump in 3...2...1...

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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2020, 01:56:22 am »
I believe this poll is accurate. But the election is in November, not June

Just out of curiosity why do you believe this poll is accurate?  Most polls have proven to be less then accurate and swayed in order to get a particular result in order to fulfill an agenda.
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2020, 02:51:55 am »
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2020, 08:50:25 am »
I believe this poll is accurate. But the election is in November, not June

Polls aren't accurate by themselves, but polling aggregates generally are. RCP average put Hillary at around 2 points above Trump last time and that's what she got, she still lost the electoral college. I'm not giving up on Trump but as it is right now he'd lose to Biden IMO. I don't fathom it, but I don't think Trump is well liked from a personal standpoint. People don't associate the excesses of BLM with Slow Joe, as he's basically this grandfather figure, which a lot of people find appealing.

I do think Trump's getting a raw deal, but his tweeting hurts him more than it helps him at this point, even if I do agree with it a lot of the time.

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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2020, 08:53:49 am »
On the other hand, this is where the polls were for the same time period in 2016:


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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2020, 08:55:19 am »
One aspect in polling that hurts Trump is the lack of third party candidates in the polls now, I wonder if people are choosing Biden because they just don't like Trump and will go green/libertarian? it's possible.

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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2020, 10:47:17 am »
Polls aren't accurate by themselves, but polling aggregates generally are. RCP average put Hillary at around 2 points above Trump last time and that's what she got, she still lost the electoral college. I'm not giving up on Trump but as it is right now he'd lose to Biden IMO. I don't fathom it, but I don't think Trump is well liked from a personal standpoint. People don't associate the excesses of BLM with Slow Joe, as he's basically this grandfather figure, which a lot of people find appealing.

I do think Trump's getting a raw deal, but his tweeting hurts him more than it helps him at this point, even if I do agree with it a lot of the time.

Spot on.
   One area where I slightly differ is that I do think that President Trump is liked from a personal standpoint, as he is entertaining as hell. His trolling mastery is off the charts (though perhaps equaled by the equally funny Don Jr.) and folks usually like who he targets and zings.
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    A master twitter troll behind the Resolute Desk is not as cute when your family (and the country) is experiencing untold anxiety and turbulence. And, as you said, he isn't juxtaposed against the loathsome Hillary Clinton this time. It's "Good ol' Joe."
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2020, 01:40:54 pm »
@FeelNoPain

For me, Trump's effort at being entertaining is one of the the things that turns me off.  If I want to be entertained, I'll put on an old movie or tv show.  IMO a president's job description does not include entertaining the masses. I want a president who leads, not entertains.  I think this president spends way too much time entertaining and not doing his job. 

Many off the minuses you mention -- I think there are voters out there who are on the fence about him.  They don't want Biden because Biden would mean a return to the Obama era plus all the other *bleep* the radicals in the party want -- an assortment of free stuff, the New Green Deal, gun confiscation, amnesty for illegals, etc. -- and that scares them.  But then they look at Trump -- sure the economy was great until recently and it's slowly getting better, but there are all the annoyances  you mention.  There is a question in their minds as to whether they can endure another four years of him. 

Trump's base will vote for him this year, no question.  But there is that group of independents, undecideds and disaffected Democrats.  Many of them voted for Trump in 2016.  It's questionable whether they will do so again in November.  IMO, Trump is way too focused on entertaining and keeping his fans when he should also be trying to lure those outside his base. 

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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2020, 01:52:11 pm »


Not taking anything for granted here, but

When your prospects rise because people are seeing and hearing less of you, you'd probably be well advised to not take your positive polls too seriously.

A faceless candidate always polls better, the farther away from the election the better, than they will on election day. But he'll have to emerge from his hole sooner or later and, hopefully, there'll be some kind of resolution to all this media generation bullsh*t the country has been suffering these past months.

In the meantime let the other side gloat.
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2020, 02:06:14 pm »


And ....a pr*ck who supported and still supports... a treasonous, ineligible, anti-American Marxist usurper who did more damage to America than all previous traitors combined.  A pr*ck who would allow foreign enemies to use him to finish the job of destroying America.   Not just no... but HELL NO.
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2020, 02:26:00 pm »

The Polls Put Democrats in a Trap of Their Own Making...[must read]
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2020, 03:23:41 pm »
This s from Wednesday in a recreation center in Darby, PA.  Trust what you see, not what you read ...


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Biden's toned-down campaign style was on display before his Wednesday remarks when he appeared at a nearby soul food restaurant and bar to participate in a socially distanced listening session to hear how the pandemic has affected small businesses. Sitting 6 feet (1.8 meters) from one another around tables outdoors, local business owners expressed concerns over a lack of guidance from the federal government on reopening. https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2020/06/joe-biden-calls-on-trump-to-wake-up-to-coronavirus-he-has-just-flat-surrendered-the-fight.html










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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2020, 03:35:16 pm »


Ehhhhhhh, ya' know I love Trump and all, but attacking a news station for their polling is not a good tactic IMO.

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Trump is late.  I expected his tweet hours earlier.   happy77

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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2020, 04:28:28 pm »
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Trump is late.  I expected his tweet hours earlier.   happy77

This upcoming week is going to be critical on how well he can fend off the Bolton Book onslaught.  Hopefully, he can keep his emotions in check, and strategically destroy Bolton's credibilty rather than coming across as a rabid animal. 
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Re: Fox News poll: Biden's lead widens to 12 points over Trump
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2020, 04:29:04 pm »
Virtue signalling.
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Yea, sure Biden all the way.
The Socialists Nazis have intimidated the public.
They say 'Biden' just because they don't want any shit from the Left.
They want to be part of the "cool kids".
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2020, 04:31:12 pm »
This upcoming week is going to be critical on how well he can fend off the Bolton Book onslaught.  Hopefully, he can keep his emotions in check, and strategically destroy Bolton's credibilty rather than coming across as a rabid animal.
I’m hoping he’ll be measured in his response. There are a half score others out attacking Bolton, and for a change Trump doesn’t have to provide the counterpoint all by his lonesome.

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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2020, 04:42:42 pm »
This upcoming week is going to be critical on how well he can fend off the Bolton Book onslaught. 

The only "onslaught" will be for those interested.  And that's the viewership of MSNBCNN --- who are convinced Trump's a Russian.

Not losing sleep over this one.  :laugh:


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Polls! :3:
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