What is the Level of your Current Misery, Politically (or otherwise)?

[roamer_1]

@mrpotatohead

Well, potato, went yesterday to get shots in both knees.  I have a high tolerance for pain and am not afraid of needles, being an EMT.

Wore a face shield instead of hot N95 mask.  That was accepted by the three who check patients before they go into the main waiting room.

The shots were horribly painful this time and I have had numerous shots in the right knee before, but these shots were so bad, I had to control myself and not yell out loud.  Doc kept asking me if I was okay, and I said "yes", each time because I had to have these shots.

What I did not know is what he said after the shots were over.  He said,
"Wait six to eight weeks to see if these shots work. If they do not, come back then."

So, here I sit with a right knee that is painful from the shots and from being bone on bone and collapsing, and wait 8! weeks to see if they worked.   

Do you have time to be a "servant" in our house to bring me whatever I need/want all day?  It will help if you are not white, so I can get "extra points" from whichever group is for/against "servants".   

Thank you for prayers.   

@Victoria33

My mamma went through hell and back with a bad hip and knee from where  horse rubbed her off on a fence post many years prior... Don;t get me wrong, she got over the initial injury, but never quite all the way.

Toward the end of it though, she was suffering awful... Got the knee done first, and man, what a difference. Got the hip done a year later and was back to sailing around town and doing what all...

The only real disability that remained was than she could never more kneel again - The knee was tender to that, so her gardens suffered, and she wound up converting to raised beds and hanging plants... But other than that, man, what a difference! What a grand and wonderful difference...

Some years later, she had the other side done, hip and knee at the same time... That was easy 15 years ago, and she is still putting around just fine.

I feel for you Vic, I do, but if it is time to go at it, just git er done. It;s tough in recovery, but if you are like my mamma, she was much relieved, even right after the surgery, and within 10 days or so, we were having to hold her back.

 

[sneakypete]

@mrpotatohead
@corbe
@Gefn
@roamer_1
@mystery-ak
@sneakypete

Well, potato, went yesterday to get shots in both knees.  I have a high tolerance for pain and am not afraid of needles, being an EMT.

Wore a face shield instead of hot N95 mask.  That was accepted by the three who check patients before they go into the main waiting room.

The shots were horribly painful this time and I have had numerous shots in the right knee before, but these shots were so bad, I had to control myself and not yell out loud.  Doc kept asking me if I was okay, and I said "yes", each time because I had to have these shots.

What I did not know is what he said after the shots were over.  He said,
"Wait six to eight weeks to see if these shots work. If they do not, come back then."

So, here I sit with a right knee that is painful from the shots and from being bone on bone and collapsing, and wait 8! weeks to see if they worked.   

Do you, potato, (and maybe @sneakypete) have time to be a "servant" in our house to bring me whatever I need/want all day?  It will help if you are not white, so I can get "extra points" from whichever group is for/against "servants".   

Thank you for prayers.   

@Victoria33

Well,technically,I am a "breed". 1/4 Injun,half-Greek,whatever the hell THAT is,and the rest Scots-Irish.
LOOK white,except for the black eyes. That should count for all kinds of points.

I MIGHT sometimes have a temper problem if alcohol is involved,and I move so slow because of my own back and knees these days that you might die of thirst before I could bring you a glass of water.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

And there it is. Putin and his followers followed the model of American Presidents like Clinton and Obomber when they set their new system up after the collapse of Communism.

Communism is no more dead than I am. But telling everyone it is, is one of the most effective methods of smokescreening its spread,growth, and that peculiar evangelistic rebranding that pervades our society known as "socialism". It's all the same stuff, from the same philosophy, and it all leads to totalitarianism, no matter what warm and fuzzy terms get wrapped around it.
It really isn't so much about the -ism, that's just a selling technique.
At the bottom of it all there is a consolidation of power, with the means to impose it, and the muscle to enforce it.
Add in everything interlaced and monitored, from pocket change purchases, location, communications, personal networking, etc. (Things people here willingly do with a cell phone "for convenience"), and half the job is done for them. Some monitoring software and a set of flags, and there WILL BE NO RESISTANCE, because it will be de-funded by a 'security leak' or interdicted by force if necessary.

A few snitches on the ground (see something, say something--rewards discreetly transferred to your account) for what the monitors won't catch, and you're in business and in total control.

[sneakypete]

  Communism is no more dead than I am.

@Smokin Joe

Better call the meat wagon before the stink gets overpowering,cause communism is DAID,dead,bubba!

The former communists in positions of power are all now Full Race Fascists. Same critter,nicer suits.

The mail difference is everybody has a sudden interest in making money,and the standard of living is MUCH higher now that individuals are allowed to open and run businesses as long as they give the state their cut of the profits.



 
 

 

[Victoria33]

@mrpotatohead
@corbe
@Gefn
@roamer_1
@mystery-ak
@sneakypete

Hmmm, sneakypete, think if you were here we would need TWO servants, one for you and one for me.

This is the bottom line:
I don't have the virus.
I have a paid-for-house and car, I have some money for food and food in the house.  The power is on.  The bad knee won't kill me but the virus could but, once again, I don't have the virus.  So many people are sick with virus, some will die, others have no job, virus numbers are going up so death numbers will go up within two weeks.

The high death numbers are there - don't tell me this virus is a hoax.

[Cyber Liberty]

The only people I see crying "Hoax!" are Democrats, pretending the President and task force aren't taking it seriously,  @Victoria33

But, you will have a hard time convincing Joe Sixpack it's a real problem, because none of the Joes failed to notice the government was beyond cool with protests and the attendant rioting.  That was OK, but going to Church is not, and people are pretty angry because they think we've been had.

Approving of riots and statues being torn down blew the entire thing.

[Victoria33]

The only people I see crying "Hoax!" are Democrats, pretending the President and task force aren't taking it seriously,  @Victoria33
But, you will have a hard time convincing Joe Sixpack it's a real problem, because none of the Joes failed to notice the government was beyond cool with protests and the attendant rioting.  That was OK, but going to Church is not, and people are pretty angry because they think we've been had.
Approving of riots and statues being torn down blew the entire thing.

My dear Cyber, and I mean that, I have read some of your posts regarding the two subjects above.  The killing of black men is one subject and the virus is another and you are putting them together.  One did not cause the other.  Sure, many of the rioters did not wear masks and many of those people will get the virus as they were not standing there silent, they were yelling with sputum flying out their mouths onto each other.

About churches:  Those places filled to the max with no masks, and singing, were the same as the rioters exchanging sputum.  Our church followed the Tarrant County guidelines and shut the doors.  When Tarrant County changed their guidelines, the church could open with 25% capacity with all wearing masks and sitting 6 ft. apart.  PLUS, the church says no person 60 or over should go to church.  At 86, I don't go - I watch it Sunday on their Facebook page.  It starts at 8 am and stays on there all day to watch it later. If you want to see the service anytime on Sunday, go to search, Put "St. Francis Catholic Church, Grapevine, Texas, Face Book" and it will come up. 

Today, Tarrant County has 9,846 in hospital, hundreds more than yesterday.  I expect Tarrant County to change the rules again and church doors could close again just as they will close businesses again.  It is the virus making the rules right now, not rioters. 

[Cyber Liberty]

@Victoria33  My point stands (despite the velvet glove/iron fist insults):  The riots completely undermined the arguments for locking people down, and that may or not be an accurate perception.  That is not the point.  The point is, people are going to refuse to submit to the lockdown conditions they accepted 6 weeks ago.

Expect to see a lot of extended middle fingers if you try to tell them the correctness of your position.

[Victoria33]

Cyber, you said: "The riots completely undermined the arguments for locking people down, and that may or not be an accurate perception.  That is not the point.  The point is, people are going to refuse to submit to the lockdown conditions they accepted 6 weeks ago."

"The riots completely undermined the arguments for locking people down,..."
How, Cyber?  Are you saying the rioters did not get sick, therefore don't wear mask?

"...people are going to refuse to submit to the lockdown conditions they accepted 6 weeks ago."
Well, here, Gov. Abbott, today, made every business to get fined unless all the employees and customers wear a mask.  That is his first change since the numbers went up so fast in the last several days.  If he has business shut down due to the fast spread, he will encourage people to stay home.  People in Dallas County/Tarrant County/Denton County, stayed home the first time.  I think if the numbers get really high and business closes, they will stay home.

[Idiot]

@mrpotatohead
@corbe
@Gefn
@roamer_1
@mystery-ak
@sneakypete

Well, potato, went yesterday to get shots in both knees.  I have a high tolerance for pain and am not afraid of needles, being an EMT.

Wore a face shield instead of hot N95 mask.  That was accepted by the three who check patients before they go into the main waiting room.

The shots were horribly painful this time and I have had numerous shots in the right knee before, but these shots were so bad, I had to control myself and not yell out loud.  Doc kept asking me if I was okay, and I said "yes", each time because I had to have these shots.

What I did not know is what he said after the shots were over.  He said,
"Wait six to eight weeks to see if these shots work. If they do not, come back then."

So, here I sit with a right knee that is painful from the shots and from being bone on bone and collapsing, and wait 8! weeks to see if they worked.   

Do you, potato, (and maybe @sneakypete) have time to be a "servant" in our house to bring me whatever I need/want all day?  It will help if you are not white, so I can get "extra points" from whichever group is for/against "servants".   

Thank you for prayers.   

@Victoria33 I play tennis with one guy that's had double knee replacements and is in his upper 80's and one guy that's had a hip replacement.  It's amazing what they can do now.  I hope you can get some relief. 

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Better call the meat wagon before the stink gets overpowering,cause communism is DAID,dead,bubba!

The former communists in positions of power are all now Full Race Fascists. Same critter,nicer suits.

The mail difference is everybody has a sudden interest in making money,and the standard of living is MUCH higher now that individuals are allowed to open and run businesses as long as they give the state their cut of the profits.

I don't care what haircut they give it, what clothes they dress it in, what language or dialect they spew it in, it's the same ol' same ol', "new and improved", with just with a little different scent.

"We are trained Marxists" said the gal who is a co-founder of BLM, it's the same poison packaged in a different color box.
The whole proletariat thingy they used in 1917 won't work with people who don't (work), so they had to have a different package to sell it.

Either way it's still the whole "Privileged" Middle Class holding down the Downtrodden underclass, While the real (very) rich b@stards running that sh*tshow manipulate things so they will be left holding the whole mess under their thumb in the end, with as near absolute power as can be had, of course.

The promise is Equality, believed by the foot soldiers to mean increased wealth, but in reality, equal and abject misery for (almost) all. In the meantime, tear down and ignore History (which will predict the outcome) because the 'right' people didn't try it yet and they didn't try hard enough.

[Smokin Joe]

The only people I see crying "Hoax!" are Democrats, pretending the President and task force aren't taking it seriously,  @Victoria33

But, you will have a hard time convincing Joe Sixpack it's a real problem, because none of the Joes failed to notice the government was beyond cool with protests and the attendant rioting.  That was OK, but going to Church is not, and people are pretty angry because they think we've been had.

Approving of riots and statues being torn down blew the entire thing.

But the rioters and art critics were younger, and though they will catch it in droves, they aren't likely to die from it. In this state, the highest infected group is the 20-40, with 1476 cases and zero deaths (total, 1362 recovered so far),

The serious wave to watch for is when they transmit the disease to those who are more at risk. Then the death toll may jump. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Cyber, you said: "The riots completely undermined the arguments for locking people down, and that may or not be an accurate perception.  That is not the point.  The point is, people are going to refuse to submit to the lockdown conditions they accepted 6 weeks ago."

"The riots completely undermined the arguments for locking people down,..."
How, Cyber?  Are you saying the rioters did not get sick, therefore don't wear mask?

I am saying the media will never report them as being caused by virtue of being rioters.  In NYC, the contact tracers are not permitted to ask if a COVID Positive patient if they participated in them.  Yes, they'll get sick, but it will be Abbot, Trump and the hated Churches that caused the ghetto rats to get sick.

"...people are going to refuse to submit to the lockdown conditions they accepted 6 weeks ago."
Well, here, Gov. Abbott, today, made every business to get fined unless all the employees and customers wear a mask.  That is his first change since the numbers went up so fast in the last several days.  If he has business shut down due to the fast spread, he will encourage people to stay home.  People in Dallas County/Tarrant County/Denton County, stayed home the first time.  I think if the numbers get really high and business closes, they will stay home.

Workers are far more likely to refuse to go to work (if they can afford it) than they are to going into a workplace that requires the mask. 

(This would be a good time to mention, as an aside, I worked on the Test Floor of a wafer fabrication facility, under clean room conditions.  That means every day I wore a Bunny Suit, hood, spit mask (those are the cheap paper ones you see people wearing, not the N95), vinyl gloves and protective glasses.  6 years, 6 1/2 days per week.)  I have no shyness when it comes to wearing the mask, but I won't anyway.

Abbot has taken his Scepter and ruled, so let's find out how omnipotent he is.  Good ol' boys all over TX will be giving him the finger, and that's too bad, because I think there is a serious concern, and nobody in government (in either Party) is letting science dictate their actions.  They're stampeding.

I'm worried as all get out, but not about the COVID-19.  I am worried Americans are allowing themselves to be cowed into complying with orders that make no sense.  Reminder:  For the first month, Drs Vauci and Birx insisted masks won't help at all (even harm!), but when the supply of masks was assured, suddenly masks were vital!  Gotta wear 'em under penalty of law!  Have you ever asked, even once, why that was?  Hint:  Factors unrelated to science were in play.  They still are today, 6/25/20.  And the demanded masks (or you will surely die) still choke off enough Oxygen to drive blood saturation levels below those permitted by OSHA regulations.  People driving their cars wearing a mask are still crashing their cars when they pass out from lack of O₂.

Yours is a valid perspective borne of hard fought experience.  I have one too, borne of different experience.  Right now, I think a lot of people just had the experience of months of politician-induced panic, followed by an insistence on the part of the same politicians we are to consider rioting to be an OK activity.  What do you think their experience has taught them?

[Cyber Liberty]

But the rioters and art critics were younger, and though they will catch it in droves, they aren't likely to die from it. In this state, the highest infected group is the 20-40, with 1476 cases and zero deaths (total, 1362 recovered so far),

The serious wave to watch for is when they transmit the disease to those who are more at risk. Then the death toll may jump.

It might, but it won't be pinned on the rioters, where it belongs.  It'll be because those bastid Republicans took their boots off the necks of their Subjects.  I'll bet some real folding money that my Governor, Ducey, will be announcing a new, more severe lock down order.  That mandatory quarantine order from the New Yorks requiring a 14 day time out is putting a lot of pressure upon someone I know, everybody knows, will cave eventually.  I expect an order to take effect by Monday morning, likely tomorrow being a Friday.

[Smokin Joe]

It might, but it won't be pinned on the rioters, where it belongs.  It'll be because those bastid Republicans took their boots off the necks of their Subjects.  I'll bet some real folding money that my Governor, Ducey, will be announcing a new, more severe lock down order.  That mandatory quarantine order from the New Yorks requiring a 14 day time out is putting a lot of pressure upon someone I know, everybody knows, will cave eventually.  I expect an order to take effect by Monday morning, likely tomorrow being a Friday.

That will be the start of the Economy killer the Communists want.

[240B]

[Gefn]

@Victoria33  My point stands (despite the velvet glove/iron fist insults):  The riots completely undermined the arguments for locking people down, and that may or not be an accurate perception.  That is not the point.  The point is, people are going to refuse to submit to the lockdown conditions they accepted 6 weeks ago.

Expect to see a lot of extended middle fingers if you try to tell them the correctness of your position.

I don’t know if this is correct or not. I just know I got my absentee ballot in the mail last week, and everyone is complaining about how ridiculous it is. They’re complaining on the news, on the web, the radio, everywhere. At this point, it doesn’t matter, it’s Trump vs Biden, but holy heck, everyone I know can’t fill out the thing properly, plus they want to go to an actual physical poll like you normally do and you cannot do. The entire state is mandatory mail in ballot.

If this is the November election it’s going to be a cluster duck plus I really like being a poll worker. This election is way too important to have it be entirely mail in ballot.
(I’m off my soap box now) 

But seriously, I’m almost thinking of not voting because it really is such a cluster duck and that is really how mad I am (voting in the primary. Not November)

[sneakypete]

I don't care what haircut they give it, what clothes they dress it in, what language or dialect they spew it in, it's the same ol' same ol', "new and improved", with just with a little different scent.

"We are trained Marxists" said the gal who is a co-founder of BLM, it's the same poison packaged in a different color box.
The whole proletariat thingy they used in 1917 won't work with people who don't (work), so they had to have a different package to sell it.

Either way it's still the whole "Privileged" Middle Class holding down the Downtrodden underclass, While the real (very) rich b@stards running that sh*tshow manipulate things so they will be left holding the whole mess under their thumb in the end, with as near absolute power as can be had, of course.

The promise is Equality, believed by the foot soldiers to mean increased wealth, but in reality, equal and abject misery for (almost) all. In the meantime, tear down and ignore History (which will predict the outcome) because the 'right' people didn't try it yet and they didn't try hard enough.

@Smokin Joe

Yes,and no. MOST businesses will be able to operate as before,but will have a new "partner" that is also the Chairman of the Board. The name of that partner is "Big Massa Government".

That is the bad news for businesses.

The "good" news is they no longer have to worry about strikes,boycotts,or government agencies making it hard for them to do business because their Chairman is "from the government" and has the authority to send in the military to bust heads and get workers back on the production lines.

Hell,he even has the power to force your customers buy from you at your price!

No worries about environmental laws,either.

Why,if you are a businessman or worker and you work hard and mind your own business you have nothing to worry about and will get to enjoy all the freedom they are willing to allow you to have.

Step out of line and they will crush you like a bug,though.

There are storm clouds in every government-managed paradise,regardless of the alias the government happens to go by.

[roamer_1]

But the rioters and art critics were younger, and though they will catch it in droves, they aren't likely to die from it. In this state, the highest infected group is the 20-40, with 1476 cases and zero deaths (total, 1362 recovered so far),

The serious wave to watch for is when they transmit the disease to those who are more at risk. Then the death toll may jump.

Them kind ain't likely to visit grandma anyhow, so...

[Cyber Liberty]

I don’t know if this is correct or not. I just know I got my absentee ballot in the mail last week, and everyone is complaining about how ridiculous it is. They’re complaining on the news, on the web, the radio, everywhere. At this point, it doesn’t matter, it’s Trump vs Biden, but holy heck, everyone I know can’t fill out the thing properly, plus they want to go to an actual physical poll like you normally do and you cannot do. The entire state is mandatory mail in ballot.

If this is the November election it’s going to be a cluster duck plus I really like being a poll worker. This election is way too important to have it be entirely mail in ballot.
(I’m off my soap box now) 

But seriously, I’m almost thinking of not voting because it really is such a cluster duck and that is really how mad I am (voting in the primary. Not November)

In AZ, Maricopa County (Phoenix) just announced this week they are reducing the nuber of polling places from 500 down to 70.  In 2016 they did that for the Presidential Preference election, and it created three-five hour lines all over the County.  Being a general election, this will be much worse for people wanting to vote in person. 

I am more glad than ever we left that place.

[corbe]

Depressed nation: Fewest ever say future looks good, vacations off, retirement jitters

by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist |   | June 26, 2020 12:11 PM

After a spurt of enthusiasm when states started to reopen from the coronavirus shutdown, people have become gloomy, increasingly worried about their retirements, summer vacations, and the future.

In the latest “Back-to-Normal Barometer,” conducted to provide consumer insight to businesses and trade groups post-virus, the number of people who believe their best days are ahead has hit a new low.

In the survey, just 47% strongly agree that “the best years of my life are still to come.”



<..snip..>

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/depressed-nation-fewest-ever-say-future-looks-good-vacations-off-retirement-jitters

[jmyrlefuller]

It is the virus making the rules right now, not rioters.

No. Viruses have no brains. They do not make rules. The government makes the rules. They are the ones who decided they were going to micromanage the spread of the virus... which, in the long run, is impossible.

Blaming the virus is a cop-out.

[jmyrlefuller]

Depressed nation: Fewest ever say future looks good, vacations off, retirement jitters

by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist |   | June 26, 2020 12:11 PM

After a spurt of enthusiasm when states started to reopen from the coronavirus shutdown, people have become gloomy, increasingly worried about their retirements, summer vacations, and the future.

In the latest “Back-to-Normal Barometer,” conducted to provide consumer insight to businesses and trade groups post-virus, the number of people who believe their best days are ahead has hit a new low.

In the survey, just 47% strongly agree that “the best years of my life are still to come.”

<..snip..>

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/depressed-nation-fewest-ever-say-future-looks-good-vacations-off-retirement-jitters

I can certainly relate to that.

[Bigun]

No. Viruses have no brains. They do not make rules. The government makes the rules. They are the ones who decided they were going to micromanage the spread of the virus... which, in the long run, is impossible.

Blaming the virus is a cop-out.

Damned right it is @jmyrlefuller we won our independence from the greatest military power on earth in a war fought in the midst of a raging smallpox epidemic for God's sake!

[corbe]

   I finally fixed the spelling of 'otherwise' in the title.  Thanks Briefers for not giving me a hard time about that. 
   I know Spelling wierdo's are plentiful around here.