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Biden is facing a real enthusiasm problem in home state of Pennsylvania
NY Post, Jun 6, 2020

PITTSBURGH — Despite a deadly pandemic, staggering unemployment and racial unrest, Pennsylvania voters showed up in record numbers to take part in their presidential primary Tuesday — even though the results were a foregone conclusion.

“We are already looking at a 40 percent voter turnout, which is what we hit in 2016 where there were still contested races on both sides of the aisle,” said Rich Fitzgerald, Allegheny County executive. “These numbers are way off the charts.”

And judging by the numbers so far, President Trump drew voters out in force. With almost 98 percent of districts counted, Republicans have cast more than 861,000 ballots for Donald Trump, with 734,000 Democrats voting for Joe Biden. And while it’s still unclear how many people voted in person versus mail-in ballot, some counties are reporting that Trump drew plenty of supporters out of their homes.
 
Most voters who cast in-person ballots in the suburban Pittsburgh county of Beaver, for example, were Republicans, said Daniel Camp, a GOP elected official there. “Republican turnout in person outperformed Democrat turnout in a county where there are 10,000 more registered Democrats,” Camp said.

Voting in person, especially given all the risks of the times, demonstrates a high level of enthusiasm, said Jeff Brauer, Keystone College political science professor.


More:  https://nypost.com/2020/06/06/biden-is-facing-a-real-enthusiasm-problem-in-pennsylvania/

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“The Republicans had even less to vote for than Democrats did,” Brauer said. “There were no statewide contested races on the Republican side — the Democrats at least had the six-person Auditor General race — and Trump had long secured the nomination with never having a serious challenge.

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IMHO, the big cities in PA will go for Biden since they are controlled by Democrats and their union allies.  Anywhere you find a huge "gimmedat" crowd -- the Democrat has a lock on the votes.  My small town, for example.  It's been all but dead since the mills closed decades ago.  Welfare recipients outnumber taxpayers.  These people will always vote Democrat.    Wouldn't matter if the candidate is exciting or dull.  Put a "D' after his or her name and election is guaranteed.

The question mark will be the better suburbs and rural areas.  Rural people are almost exclusively conservative.  More affluent suburbs are a mix of Republican and Democrat.  The better suburbs and rurals went for Trump in 2016.  Will they do the same in 2020? 

IMHO, the suburbs and rurals will vote for Trump only because they look at the Dems and their platform and see a return to the Obama years and worse -- something they definitely don't want.  They may not like Trump, but they will pick him because the alternative sickens and maybe frightens them.

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IMHO, the big cities in PA will go for Biden since they are controlled by Democrats and their union allies.  Anywhere you find a huge "gimmedat" crowd -- the Democrat has a lock on the votes.  My small town, for example.  It's been all but dead since the mills closed decades ago.  Welfare recipients outnumber taxpayers.  These people will always vote Democrat.    Wouldn't matter if the candidate is exciting or dull.  Put a "D' after his or her name and election is guaranteed.

The question mark will be the better suburbs and rural areas.  Rural people are almost exclusively conservative.  More affluent suburbs are a mix of Republican and Democrat.  The better suburbs and rurals went for Trump in 2016.  Will they do the same in 2020? 

IMHO, the suburbs and rurals will vote for Trump only because they look at the Dems and their platform and see a return to the Obama years and worse -- something they definitely don't want.  They may not like Trump, but they will pick him because the alternative sickens and maybe frightens them.


Espcially since Biden wants to defund the police.
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What's this "home state" stuff? He's from Deleware.
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What's this "home state" stuff? He's from Deleware.

Biden was born in Scranton, PA

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Biden was born in Scranton, PA

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Ok,thanks. I didn't think that still qualified him as a home boy,though.
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Ok, thanks. I didn't think that still qualified him as a home boy, though.

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Well, it's a selling point whenever Biden comes to PA to campaign.    Designed to make the voters feel like he's one of them.

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Sloe Joe is going to be replaced anyways.  When and with whom is the question; probably after he is told who is VP is going to be would be my guess.
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Well, it's a selling point whenever Biden comes to PA to campaign.    Designed to make the voters feel like he's one of them.

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Well,they ARE Dims.

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I am from Pennsylvania, spent much of my life there, and I do not have any affinity with Joe Biden.  I think it is much a do about nothing, and weak on his part.  His being born in PA would not have me voting for him.

I think PA sticks with Trump.  It will be close again, whether it is Biden or HRC or another. 

I still believe HRC emerges from the convention.  The Dems like I said in another post are in the honey pit, and they know it.  Slo Joe is not viable, and I believe HRC has in her sneaky way masterminded the emergence from the convention, like that will help her in taking down Trump.

With the recovery of the economy, the employment of people in large numbers leading up to the November election, it just does not matter who runs against Trump.  And smart politicians will aligh with Trump.  Those that don't might just lose their primaries and general election.

The Philly area goes Dem, but the Pittsburgh area could go either way.  The rest of the state is conservative, and that carries the GOP across the finish line.

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With the recovery of the economy, the employment of people in large numbers leading up to the November election, it just does not matter who runs against Trump.  And smart politicians will aligh with Trump.  Those that don't might just lose their primaries and general election.

The Philly area goes Dem, but the Pittsburgh area could go either way.  The rest of the state is conservative, and that carries the GOP across the finish line.

If Trump wins, a I hope a good bit of our side  basically politcally tars/feathers/rails the likes of Romney and the Bushes.  They sure rode the coatails of party unity when they had their time in the saddle.  Even, as in the case of McCain and Romney, they were proven RINO bastards.   I am sickened my my votes 2000-2012. 
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I am from Pennsylvania, spent much of my life there, and I do not have any affinity with Joe Biden.  I think it is much a do about nothing, and weak on his part.  His being born in PA would not have me voting for him.

I think PA sticks with Trump.  It will be close again, whether it is Biden or HRC or another. 

I still believe HRC emerges from the convention.  The Dems like I said in another post are in the honey pit, and they know it.  Slo Joe is not viable, and I believe HRC has in her sneaky way masterminded the emergence from the convention, like that will help her in taking down Trump.

With the recovery of the economy, the employment of people in large numbers leading up to the November election, it just does not matter who runs against Trump.  And smart politicians will aligh with Trump.  Those that don't might just lose their primaries and general election.

The Philly area goes Dem, but the Pittsburgh area could go either way.  The rest of the state is conservative, and that carries the GOP across the finish line.

Why did Pennsylvania flip so handily to the Dems in 2018? Wasn't the economy roaring then? Wasn't unemployment low?

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I live in the western end of PA. and I can tell you Pittsburgh will go for Biden.  The city folk love him.  He's been here several times.  Even served as grand marshal for whatever for a couple of Labor Day parades.  Unions think he's wonderful.  I know that from a conservative friend of mine who has the misfortune of working for a union shop.  He gets plenty of pressure from the union to vote Democrat and the pressure has already started for November.    Unions and Democrats are thick as thieves and they control the political situation in the city. 

What the burbs do depends on whether they are affluent or impoverished.  I live in a dying town and the Democrats rule here.  So Biden or whoever the nominee is will win here.  Wealthier suburbs here go for Republicans. 

And in the big cities, you know voter fraud will be rampant, particularly if the Democrats succeed in getting mail-in voting okayed.   

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If Trump wins, a I hope a good bit of our side  basically politcally tars/feathers/rails the likes of Romney and the Bushes.  They sure rode the coatails of party unity when they had their time in the saddle.  Even, as in the case of McCain and Romney, they were proven RINO bastards.   I am sickened my my votes 2000-2012.

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Don't blame yourself or be sickened.  Hindsight is 20/20 and if we only knew then (famous last words)... what we know now.   It was a learning experience.   And we learned...

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Why did Pennsylvania flip so handily to the Dems in 2018? Wasn't the economy roaring then? Wasn't unemployment low?

PA is a purple state.  One day they vote Dem, the next day they vote Republican.  It is a heavy union state, and that impacts elections too.  Presently, they have a Dem governor, a Dem US senator, and a Republican senator that might as well be a Dem, for he has opposed Trump enough times.

Cities on both sides of the state are exclusively Democrat.  Voter fraud is rampant in the Philly area, with thousands more voting than registered.  No one does anything about the corruption in PA.

I have not lived there in 10 years plus, and I received in Georgia an Absentee Ballot Form a couple weeks ago.  I did not request it, and I am sure I voted there, even though I did not return the ballot.  It is just that corrupt.  How did they even get my GA address? 

PA is the most corrupt state I know.  With Soros owning the company that tabulates the vote for the whole of the USA, I am sure he has influenced a few elections manipulating ones and zeroes.