Trump says US will buy $3billion worth of dairy, meat and produce from farmers to give to food banks

[mystery-ak]

Trump says US will buy $3billion worth of dairy, meat and produce from farmers to give to food banks and kitchens starting next week

    President Trump tweeted about the big USDA agriculture purchase on Saturday
    The $3billion of food will be given to food banks and other charities in the US
    Food giveaways have seen an increase in demand as unemployment soars
    The food buy is part of the USDA's $19billion agriculture assistance program

By Reuters and Maxine Shen For Dailymail.com

Published: 15:22 EDT, 9 May 2020 | Updated: 03:49 EDT, 10 May 2020


President Donald Trump tweeted that, next week, the United States would buy $3billion worth of dairy, meat and produce from farmers during the economic upheaval caused by coronavirus.

Trump said the food would be given to food banks and kitchens. 

Trump's tweet came as unemployment soars and the prices that slaughterhouses pay farmers for animals have fallen in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8303841/U-S-buy-3-billion-worth-agricultural-goods-farmers-Trump.html

[berdie]

Well, if they can get all of this processed, it's exactly the same thought I had. I hate waste. Especially when there is need. I'm sure some of the people in the food bank lines shouldn't be there....but one heck of a lot of them need the help.

[Smokin Joe]

It is a good move. I'm not in favor of bread lines, but I'm not in favor of mass graves for livestock that is older than its sell by date.

[Free Vulcan]

If they can pull it off, I'd rather see them spend the money on this that they are going to spend anyway, and not on one of Nancy and the Dems pet projects to consolidate their political power.

[Sighlass]

And we all know where the choice cuts will end up.

[Chosen Daughter]

I think this is a good idea., somewhat but the price tag seems high.  I still am not certain why there is so much waste in the first place.  People are still eating.

I'm sorry, have to retract that good idea.  I am not sure what is going on.  And will some farmers be winners and other just have to dump their milk?  Let vegetable's rot in the field?  Some not able to sell their meat? 

What is going on?  On television there are long lines to get food.  Looks like Venezuela.  We still have the same population.  Same amount of people needing food.  So why are they dumping milk?

Who decides what farmer gets part of the 3 billion?

[dancer]

I think this is a good idea., somewhat but the price tag seems high.  I still am not certain why there is so much waste in the first place.  People are still eating.

I'm sorry, have to retract that good idea.  I am not sure what is going on.  And will some farmers be winners and other just have to dump their milk?  Let vegetable's rot in the field?  Some not able to sell their meat? 

What is going on?  On television there are long lines to get food.  Looks like Venezuela.  We still have the same population.  Same amount of people needing food.  So why are they dumping milk?

It isn"t the farmers, nor we eaters.  The processing plants have closed due
to Covid and Dem governors.  Happy to say I saw one dairy farmer
on Fox News who refused to dump the milk on the ground, so he bottled it himself and gave to foodbanks, then opened his own stand and there was a long line of cars of people waiting to buy the milk.  I hope th

Who decides what farmer gets part of the 3 billion?

It isn't the farmers, nor the eaters at fault.  It's the processors who have closed due to Covid and Dem governors.  I saw a dairy farmer on FN who refused to dump the milk on the ground.  He bottled it himself and gave it to foodbanks, plus opened a stand of his own.  The cars were lined up to buy as a protest.

[Chosen Daughter]

It isn't the farmers, nor the eaters at fault.  It's the processors who have closed due to Covid and Dem governors.  I saw a dairy farmer on FN who refused to dump the milk on the ground.  He bottled it himself and gave it to foodbanks, plus opened a stand of his own.  The cars were lined up to buy as a protest.

Got it, but if the food processing plants are closed how is the government going to give it to the food banks?

[Cyber Liberty]

I think this is a good idea., somewhat but the price tag seems high.  I still am not certain why there is so much waste in the first place.  People are still eating.

I'm sorry, have to retract that good idea.  I am not sure what is going on.  And will some farmers be winners and other just have to dump their milk?  Let vegetable's rot in the field?  Some not able to sell their meat? 

What is going on?  On television there are long lines to get food.  Looks like Venezuela.  We still have the same population.  Same amount of people needing food.  So why are they dumping milk?

Who decides what farmer gets part of the 3 billion?

Of course you concluded it's a bad idea.  It's a Trump idea, and they're all bad because Trump said it.

[Free Vulcan]

I think this is a good idea., somewhat but the price tag seems high.  I still am not certain why there is so much waste in the first place.  People are still eating.

I'm sorry, have to retract that good idea.  I am not sure what is going on.  And will some farmers be winners and other just have to dump their milk?  Let vegetable's rot in the field?  Some not able to sell their meat? 

What is going on?  On television there are long lines to get food.  Looks like Venezuela.  We still have the same population.  Same amount of people needing food.  So why are they dumping milk?

Who decides what farmer gets part of the 3 billion?

There's gotta be a way we can blame Trump for this. Screw Trump. It's always Trump's fault.

It does't matter if it's a good idea, if it's Trump's idea it's a bad idea.

[Cyber Liberty]

There's gotta be a way we can blame Trump for this. Screw Trump. It's always Trump's fault.

It does't matter if it's a good idea, if it's Trump's idea it's a bad idea.

GMTA!   

[catfish1957]

It isn't the farmers, nor the eaters at fault.  It's the processors who have closed due to Covid and Dem governors.  I saw a dairy farmer on FN who refused to dump the milk on the ground.  He bottled it himself and gave it to foodbanks, plus opened a stand of his own.  The cars were lined up to buy as a protest.

Exactly.  And add the fact that some of the huge packagers are foreign owned like Smithfield, some, (repeat just some) may have ulterior motives via crisis for price gouging.  Would take just a few bad actors to disrupt the whole system.

[Chosen Daughter]

Of course you concluded it's a bad idea.  It's a Trump idea, and they're all bad because Trump said it.

Why have you done this?  I did want to say its a good idea.  I posted that I thought it was at first, but we are spending like crazy.  It didn't make sense to me so I asked questions.  I still didn't get answers to any of it.  Because if the processing plants are closed down how will the government give the milk, vegetables, meat to the food bank?  Government isn't in the processing business.

I also asked how they are going to decide what farm to give money to?  Is one going to continue to dump their milk while another gets paid by the government?

I guess nobody should question out of control spending on TBR.

If you can't answer legitimate questions don't just make it chosen daughter bad.

I just might as well never say anything good about Trump because I get this garbage.  I think when we are talking about 3 billion dollars those are good questions.  But wrapped in charity I suppose I shouldn't even ask.

And now I have to correct again.  Its actually 19 Billions dollars and more to come.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Trump+3+billion+to+give+milk%2c+vegetables+and+meat+to+food+bank&docid=608022439472727690&mid=3819264C397B683589E03819264C397B683589E0&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

[Cyber Liberty]

Why have you done this?  I did want to say its a good idea.  I posted that I thought it was at first, but we are spending like crazy.  It didn't make sense to me so I asked questions.  I still didn't get answers to any of it.  Because if the processing plants are closed down how will the government give the milk, vegetables, meat to the food bank?  Government isn't in the processing business.

I also asked how they are going to decide what farm to give money to?  Is one going to continue to dump their milk while another gets paid by the government?

I guess nobody should question out of control spending on TBR.

If you can't answer legitimate questions don't just make it chosen daughter bad.

I just might as well never say anything good about Trump because I get this garbage.  I think when we are talking about 3 billion dollars those are good questions.  But wrapped in charity I suppose I shouldn't even ask.

You said it was a "good idea," until you rationalized that it must be bad because it came from Trump.  If Pence suggested it, or Nancy Pelosi, it would have been golden.

A good concern that I'd believe is, "Which corrupt Trump buddy's going to make a mint on this?"   That's usually the accusation.  Heaven forbid Trump would want to relieve the pressure on the Unemployment system by getting food directly to the people that have been thrown out of work by the Governors.  That would be showing an ounce of decency, which you would never allow.

[Chosen Daughter]

You said it was a "good idea," until you rationalized that it must be bad because it came from Trump.  If Pence suggested it, or Nancy Pelosi, it would have been golden.

A good concern that I'd believe is, "Which corrupt Trump buddy's going to make a mint on this?"   That's usually the accusation.  Heaven forbid Trump would want to relieve the pressure on the Unemployment system by getting food directly to the people that have been thrown out of work by the Governors.  That would be showing an ounce of decency, which you would never allow.

How is he going to get them there when the farmers couldn't?  This is another Socialist bailout.

Its 19 billion dollars.  Trump:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Trump+3+billion+to+give+milk%2c+vegetables+and+meat+to+food+bank&docid=608022439472727690&mid=3819264C397B683589E03819264C397B683589E0&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

[Chosen Daughter]

Its trade litigation.  Products are not selling overseas.  See how easy that was.  I answered my own questions.  Thank you Chosen Daughter!

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Trump+3+billion+to+give+milk%2c+vegetables+and+meat+to+food+bank&&view=detail&mid=F2D5B2BB18B04CC76265F2D5B2BB18B04CC76265&rvsmid=3819264C397B683589E03819264C397B683589E0&FORM=VDQVAP

has nothing to do with COVID

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

You said it was a "good idea," until you rationalized that it must be bad because it came from Trump.  If Pence suggested it, or Nancy Pelosi, it would have been golden.

A good concern that I'd believe is, "Which corrupt Trump buddy's going to make a mint on this?"   That's usually the accusation.  Heaven forbid Trump would want to relieve the pressure on the Unemployment system by getting food directly to the people that have been thrown out of work by the Governors.  That would be showing an ounce of decency, which you would never allow.

Honestly, piss off and stop trying to cause fights where none exist.

[Cyber Liberty]

Honestly, piss off and stop trying to cause fights where none exist.

You betcha.  And thanks for the input.

[Cyber Liberty]

How is he going to get them there when the farmers couldn't?  This is another Socialist bailout.

Its 19 billion dollars.  Trump:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Trump+3+billion+to+give+milk%2c+vegetables+and+meat+to+food+bank&docid=608022439472727690&mid=3819264C397B683589E03819264C397B683589E0&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

I'd answer you, but WTF told me to sit down and shut up.

[libertybele]

To give to food banks = free food.  I get it.  People are needing food.  However, SNAP is available for most who are out of work.  The way I see things is we already have a meat shortage -- buying up meat and giving to food banks is only going to increase that shortage for those that are shopping at the grocery stores.

A couple of local farmers are selling 1/2 and whole sides of beef in my area ... ok... great I thought...so I went to purchase a freezer to store the meat -- sold out till the end of July -- 2 months from now!!

[Chosen Daughter]

This was going on way before COVID.  I am sure that COVID has contributed but lets be honest.

Why Canadian milk infuriates Donald Trump

Excerpt:

Even so, the Trudeau government recently alarmed Canadian farmers by signalling a willingness to give on the issue in the face of insistent US demands. The dispute has acquired new urgency as the US dairy industry continues to suffer from a deep crisis of persistent overproduction, with farmers sinking into insolvency as farm-gate milk prices stick stubbornly below the cost of production. Last year, US farmers dumped almost 100m gallons of surplus milk. Recently, a surge in dairy-farmer suicides has caused national alarm, drawing attention to what the New York Times called “the widespread hopelessness afflicting the industry”.

Representing a state suffering especially hard from farm failures and suicides, the US Senate minority leader, Chuck Schumer, recently echoed his Republican president in blaming Canada for the debacle. “Canada, when it comes to dairy, acts like China when it comes to trade,” Schumer told hard-pressed farmers in upstate New York. “They’re unfair. They put up barriers. They treat us bad.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2018/jun/09/milk-canada-us-trade-war



Trade wars from afar hit Utah farmers in the field
By LEIA LARSEN, Standard-Examiner Jul 1, 2018 0


It’s the busy time of year at the Tuleview Holsteins dairy, with the Hardys rising early to milk their 2,000 cows and staying up late to tend to irrigation lines.
Chad Hardy, Brian Hardy and their other two brothers work just as hard as their father did when he bought the Box Elder County-based farm in the 1950s. But their business has become less lucrative. These days, they’re not even breaking even. This summer, they’re bracing themselves for an even bigger world of hurt due to international market forces beyond their control.

“The tariffs are causing some stress. It’s unknown right now what the final situation will be,” Chad Hardy said. “At this point it’s scary.”

The Trump administration’s tariffs started at the end of May, hitting China and U.S. allies like Canada and the European Union with a 25 percent tax on steel and a 10 percent tax on aluminum. Those nations responded with tariffs of their own, largely on agricultural and food products from the U.S.
In Utah, the retaliation means the agricultural industry is bracing for nearly $103 million in export impacts from trading partners.

https://www.standard.net/news/environment/trade-wars-from-afar-hit-utah-farmers-in-the-field/article_468491ad-d8f6-5579-90ee-7a652890b8b5.html


19 billion.

[roamer_1]

I'm sorry, have to retract that good idea.  I am not sure what is going on.  And will some farmers be winners and other just have to dump their milk?  Let vegetable's rot in the field?  Some not able to sell their meat? 

Some of that has to be bull. I mean, it's barely spring. Who the heck is plowing under harvests in the spring? Barley? Winter wheat. maybe... Most folks are just planting vegetables right now. The milk thing I could see happening...  But beef?  Pork, maybe... But unless the cows are already at the feed lot, there ain't a dang thing says you have to sell em now. Shoot, they're barely past roundup. Doesn't hurt a dang thing to drive em up to the high range and harvest em in the fall when you bring em back down. Putting a summer on em costs mostly nothing.

[Chosen Daughter]

Some of that has to be bull. I mean, it's barely spring. Who the heck is plowing under harvests in the spring? Barley? Winter wheat. maybe... Most folks are just planting vegetables right now. The milk thing I could see happening...  But beef?  Pork, maybe... But unless the cows are already at the feed lot, there ain't a dang thing says you have to sell em now. Shoot, they're barely past roundup. Doesn't hurt a dang thing to drive em up to the high range and harvest em in the fall when you bring em back down. Putting a summer on em costs mostly nothing.

That's what I was thinking.  It doesn't make sense.  I don't know about it like you do though, and thanks for the response.  Also there is plenty of information that says farmers have been in trouble for a long time over trade wars.

Wisconsin dairy farmers are struggling to stay afloat
Jul 14, 2019 5:27 PM EDT

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/wisconsin-dairy-farmers-are-struggling-to-stay-afloat

[Cyber Liberty]

Some of that has to be bull. I mean, it's barely spring. Who the heck is plowing under harvests in the spring? Barley? Winter wheat. maybe... Most folks are just planting vegetables right now. The milk thing I could see happening...  But beef?  Pork, maybe... But unless the cows are already at the feed lot, there ain't a dang thing says you have to sell em now. Shoot, they're barely past roundup. Doesn't hurt a dang thing to drive em up to the high range and harvest em in the fall when you bring em back down. Putting a summer on em costs mostly nothing.

I'm not buying the plowing under stories, except maybe in places where it costs money to irrigate.  I'm thinking of the cattlemen and pig farmers.  They either feed 'em or slaughter 'em if they can't get a wholesale buyer.

[roamer_1]

That's what I was thinking.  It doesn't make sense.  I don't know about it like you do though and thanks for the response.  Also there is plenty of information that says farmers have been in trouble for a long time over trade wars.

Wisconsin dairy farmers are struggling to stay afloat
Jul 14, 2019 5:27 PM EDT

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/wisconsin-dairy-farmers-are-struggling-to-stay-afloat

Dairy getting hit I can see. Dairy cows ain't on range, they're on pasture... Close in. Have to be to come to the barn every night. And they are supplemented in feed to yield high production...

You can take some of that hit right now, because they have a good portion of their cows with calf right now... If they kept the calf, they can calf-share the cow (keep the calf on the cow), and cut production in half, or let the calf have it all, go to zero production and make the money on selling the calf instead... That would buy some months without drying the cow off... But it does not stop the costs in hay and grain. And while the pastures are growing hard right now, it is about time to lose the calves (another month or so) because the pastures going into summer are not able to handle the weight without getting rid of some before summer heat hits and the pastures quit producing as well.

Another thing... milk overage, usually fermented skim goes to hog farmers all the time. So if there is a glut in milk you can keep the cows wet selling your overage to the pig farmers. It is mostly a discard, but that is a cheap source of food for the pigs right now, buying time.

But beef- Beef don't care... Cattle ranches have just come off their expensive season... They've had the cows down in pasture, feeding hay all winter... They've JUST past roundup, and are sending em out onto range. Now, that CAN be a thing... more cows, more weight on the range than expected... Might run em out of food late summer, and might be more than the range can handle... That is true. But it depends on the summer. If it is cool and rainy, the range will take the say, 25% beyond expected...

It will hurt fall prices (more cows to sell later), and will cause shortage in the summer (feed lots empty, cattle tunred out to range instead) but it's a better bet than killing em now and dumping them in a gully. Doesn't make any sense.

Somebody is making a story, I think.