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Politically, Which Direction do you typically lean, Today?

Federalist
10 (71.4%)
GOP
1 (7.1%)
Defeat the DEMS!
2 (14.3%)
A Distincion without a Difference in Today's Climate
1 (7.1%)

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Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« on: April 29, 2020, 08:58:11 pm »
   Just gauging the GOP/Trump Love around here, which is obviously very strong.

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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2020, 09:00:17 pm »
   Just gauging the GOP/Trump Love around here, which is obviously very strong.


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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2020, 09:50:27 pm »
100.00% Conservative.  Nothing else.

When did you last know of a non-GOP candidate, that was a) 100.00% Conservative.

and b) had a realistic chance of winning?

I contend there are precisely none these days
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2020, 10:02:50 pm »
   Granted it's in the past @truth_seeker but here's two that the GOP rejected in 1976 and 2016, respectively.

   
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2020, 10:10:38 pm »
   Granted it's in the past @truth_seeker but here's two that the GOP rejected in 1976 and 2016, respectively.

   

So what?

I like Cruz plenty, but I doubt he is electable for President, since the country is not nearly as conservative as he is.

You know he has his own podcast "Verdict", with Michael Knowls of Ben Shapiro's group.
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2020, 10:12:21 pm »
When did you last know of a non-GOP candidate, that was a) 100.00% Conservative.

and b) had a realistic chance of winning?

I contend there are precisely none these days
The 100% conservative is the easy part. Getting the GOP behind someone like that is not happening. They couldn't wait to attack Roy Moore, for instance, even beat the press to the punch in dropping him from their support.

When people stick to the Constitution, they aren't giving that wiggle room that makes for lucrative cumshaw and baksheesh deals form K street, so they aren't wanted in DC, in any capacity.
That's a GOP problem, imho, and only a few gradations better than the Democrats who are only interested in staying in power and on the gravy train.
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2020, 10:19:28 pm »
   Cruz wasn't given half a chance in 2016, between Mitch/GOP and the Media onslaught.  But we'll never know now because some thought it'd be better to sit around for 4 years and watch liberal's heads explode.
   Although, I'm learning how not to fear the bomb and am actually entertained by some of it. 


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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2020, 10:26:47 pm »
   Just gauging the GOP/Trump Love around here, which is obviously very strong.



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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2020, 10:29:09 pm »
   Cruz wasn't given half a chance in 2016, between Mitch/GOP and the Media onslaught.  But we'll never know now because some thought it'd be better to sit around for 4 years and watch liberal's heads explode.
   Although, I'm learning how not to fear the bomb and am actually entertained by some of it.


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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2020, 11:09:46 pm »
When did you last know of a non-GOP candidate, that was a) 100.00% Conservative.

and b) had a realistic chance of winning?

I contend there are precisely none these days

I thought the question was what I was, not what is available in the electorate.  Check the heading.
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2020, 11:36:17 pm »
I take the Weed Option, and that's not on the list.  Full Commie, baby!!!
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2020, 12:38:02 am »
In the community I grew up in, got elected in, the Republicans are liberal and the Democrats are conservative.  Hard to believe, but true.  When I got elected, I was a Democrat serving on a school board with 7 of 9 members Republican, and I was the most conservative person on the board.

At a time when teachers' salaries were going up over $1 million per year, I managed to reduce property taxes by 6 mills.  That was not easy to do.

So I have been a Republican for 12 years.  And I just do not see conservative anything in the federal government.  Trump certainly has not cut back spending at all on any level.  Spend...spend...spend!!!  Frankly I am tired of it.

If I had control of the budget, I would balance the budget in two weeks time of reviewing it.  It is incomprehensible how we sepnd money.  Many gave Trump a hard time when he demanded NATO members start paying their share, a share they agreed to pay.  Germany, the richest country in Europe is only paying 50% of what they are expected to pay.  That is nonsense.  and on top of that, the USA provides $140 million+/- to Russia in aid.  We are literally funding both sides.  That makes sense!

And look where we are with China!  China controls much of what is vital in the USA, things like pharma.  And what has Trump done to remedy that? NOTHING!  I am disappointed.

I believe in a strong military, but let's not lose our heads.  The USA has 10-11 Navy aircraft carriers.  Every other nation has but one.  ONE!  Yet we are told our military is lacking, and needs reinvestment.  Uggh!!!!

We have troops on station in 140 countries.  How many does China or Russia have in other countries?  Does it even get into the double digits for either nation?  I doubt it.  America has been squandering our treasure throughout the world long enough.  It is time to make it mandatory to have a balanced budget, with the sole exception being a declared war from Congress.

Attempting to create a viable third party is not practical, for there are those that are conservative and Republican that would never switch.  We need to restore conservative principles to the Republican Party.  And Sen Cruz is not the person to make that happen.

And then there is the issue of globalism.  Both parties are completely ensconsed in this dynamic undertaking.  IT IS TREASON, and those pushing it should be dispatched.  Yes, that is how strongly I feel about it.  When Trump leaves they will pick the baton back up and start marching to their desired outcomes.  How to end it?  Even a second term by Trump will NOT end it.  I believe the greatest threat to the USA is globalism and the folks pushing it.  I laugh every time I hear it mentioned that climate change is a threat.  I will take climate change seriously when the beaches I go to are under water.  They are just fine so far.  I see no change.
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2020, 12:44:30 am »
 :thumbsup: @jafo2010 until that
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Sen Cruz is not the person to make that happen
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2020, 01:10:00 am »
In the community I grew up in, got elected in, the Republicans are liberal and the Democrats are conservative.  Hard to believe, but true.  When I got elected, I was a Democrat serving on a school board with 7 of 9 members Republican, and I was the most conservative person on the board.

At a time when teachers' salaries were going up over $1 million per year, I managed to reduce property taxes by 6 mills.  That was not easy to do.

So I have been a Republican for 12 years.  And I just do not see conservative anything in the federal government.  Trump certainly has not cut back spending at all on any level.  Spend...spend...spend!!!  Frankly I am tired of it.

If I had control of the budget, I would balance the budget in two weeks time of reviewing it.  It is incomprehensible how we sepnd money.  Many gave Trump a hard time when he demanded NATO members start paying their share, a share they agreed to pay.  Germany, the richest country in Europe is only paying 50% of what they are expected to pay.  That is nonsense.  and on top of that, the USA provides $140 million+/- to Russia in aid.  We are literally funding both sides.  That makes sense!

And look where we are with China!  China controls much of what is vital in the USA, things like pharma.  And what has Trump done to remedy that? NOTHING!  I am disappointed.

I believe in a strong military, but let's not lose our heads.  The USA has 10-11 Navy aircraft carriers.  Every other nation has but one.  ONE!  Yet we are told our military is lacking, and needs reinvestment.  Uggh!!!!

We have troops on station in 140 countries.  How many does China or Russia have in other countries?  Does it even get into the double digits for either nation?  I doubt it.  America has been squandering our treasure throughout the world long enough.  It is time to make it mandatory to have a balanced budget, with the sole exception being a declared war from Congress.

Attempting to create a viable third party is not practical, for there are those that are conservative and Republican that would never switch.  We need to restore conservative principles to the Republican Party.  And Sen Cruz is not the person to make that happen.

And then there is the issue of globalism.  Both parties are completely ensconsed in this dynamic undertaking.  IT IS TREASON, and those pushing it should be dispatched.  Yes, that is how strongly I feel about it.  When Trump leaves they will pick the baton back up and start marching to their desired outcomes.  How to end it?  Even a second term by Trump will end it.  I believe the greatest threat to the USA is globalism and the folks pushing it.  I laugh every time I hear it mentioned that climate change is a threat.  I will take climate change seriously when the beaches I go to are under water.  They are just fine so far.  I see no change.
Climates last longer than nations. Much longer.
I agree, globalism raises first the question of where you go if you don't like the way things end up. Where do you look for help to right it?
Second, my ancestors were here before there was a United States, and signed on to and fought for it as it formed. One relative was a Signer of the Declaration. I don't take their sacrifice lightly and am appalled at the travesty this nation has become in practice versus the great ideas penned by the Founders. As far as those go, they barely lasted 50 years before the Mercantile interests moved in and took over. It was those interests my ancestors rebelled against as well, seeking a peaceful dissolution of the previous compact in favor of a new one that better served their interests. The old one was imposed by force, and hasn't been followed since.
WIth time even lip service to that original intent has faded with a plethora of 'new rights' granted by courts that in no way would have fit with the best intent of any of the founders. Since Marx, the socialistic tendencies have been growing, to the detriment of the original and founding ethos, ardently imposed when possible, slipped under the door, or sugar coated and sold to the masses in times of great distress.

Which brings us to today. Distress is a perception, sometimes real, sometimes not, and this distress imho, is largely imposed with an absence of good science and hard fact and a lot of emotional hand wringing and apocalyptic claims.

We, and this Republic, are in dangerous times, indeed.   
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2020, 01:18:32 am »
Wrong with all due respect. You are still a democrat.  I do not believe anything you wrote. You may believe what you wrote. It is as if you don't know what is going on in real life.  www.magapill.com

  "Trump certainly has not cut back spending at all on any level.  Spend...spend...spend!!!  Frankly I am tired of it."=@ jayfo2010

He cut spending before his inauguration. He returned to treasury 20% of the money allotted for new presidents to set up their cabinets etc.   Just off the top of head. There is more. He has reduced regulations and removed double bureaucracy. That is saying us money. HE TAKES NO PAY. Volunteer work.  400 K or 450 K.  times 4 =. almost 2 million saved.  No TRUMP takes any pay for working with POTUS. BILLIONS coming in from CHINA...when before that was going out for decades. MONEY coming in by NATO delinquent accounts.  DELINQUENT FOR YEARS.  I had a difficult time reading your biased post.  Yes, our military was down to 1915 strength. They had to get parts to repair planes from plane grave yard's. Military had to buy their own equipment under Obama. Vests, things like that.

Oh, POTUS also cut money to Pakistan and countries that hate us & use us. Democrats are known for being the spenders...NOT REPUBLICANS. All the pork put in by democrats even for SANDY HURRICANE and now the same thing by demon-rats in stimulus packages.  PORK FOR MUSEUMS.... No doubt you will hate me now. Just trying to set things straight.  I don't 'hate ' you.  This would be a good debate. I just know, democrats ARE THE SPENDERS....not republicans.  8 years of obama & Harry Reid with no budget.  Now you are disappointed. Well, we've had hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, FIRES, covid-19. Disaster after disaster.

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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2020, 01:50:58 am »
The 100% conservative is the easy part. Getting the GOP behind someone like that is not happening.

The role of the party is getting people eleced, not scoring points in conservaive purity.

” James Baker, Reagan’s chief of staff and later his Treasury secretary, recalled in an interview: “‘I’d rather get 80 percent of what I want than go over the cliff with my flags flying.’”

The point is not the absolute number.

The point for political adults, is if you want "conservative" results, winning needs to take priority, versus losing to make statements.

Every Republican from Dole onward lost the populalar vote, save GWB 2nd term.

Making statements is not a productive strategy.

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2020, 02:33:00 am »
In the community I grew up in, got elected in, the Republicans are liberal and the Democrats are conservative.  Hard to believe, but true.  When I got elected, I was a Democrat serving on a school board with 7 of 9 members Republican, and I was the most conservative person on the board.
At a time when teachers' salaries were going up over $1 million per year, I managed to reduce property taxes by 6 mills.  That was not easy to do.
So I have been a Republican for 12 years.  And I just do not see conservative anything in the federal government.  Trump certainly has not cut back spending at all on any level.  Spend...spend...spend!!! 
If I had control of the budget, I would balance the budget in two weeks time of reviewing it.  It is incomprehensible how we sepnd money.  Many gave Trump a hard time when he demanded NATO members start paying their share, a share they agreed to pay.  Germany, the richest country in Europe is only paying 50% of what they are expected to pay.  That is nonsense.  and on top of that, the USA provides $140 million+/- to Russia in aid.  We are literally funding both sides.  That makes sense!
And look where we are with China!  China controls much of what is vital in the USA, things like pharma.  And what has Trump done to remedy that? NOTHING!  I am disappointed.
I believe in a strong military, but let's not lose our heads.  The USA has 10-11 Navy aircraft carriers.  Every other nation has but one.  ONE!  Yet we are told our military is lacking, and needs reinvestment. 
We have troops on station in 140 countries.  How many does China or Russia have in other countries?  Does it even get into the double digits for either nation?  I doubt it.  America has been squandering our treasure throughout the world long enough.  It is time to make it mandatory to have a balanced budget, with the sole exception being a declared war from Congress.
Attempting to create a viable third party is not practical, for there are those that are conservative and Republican that would never switch.  We need to restore conservative principles to the Republican Party.  And Sen Cruz is not the person to make that happen.
And then there is the issue of globalism.  Both parties are completely ensconsed in this dynamic undertaking.  IT IS TREASON, and those pushing it should be dispatched.  Yes, that is how strongly I feel about it.  When Trump leaves they will pick the baton back up and start marching to their desired outcomes.  How to end it?  Even a second term by Trump will end it.  I believe the greatest threat to the USA is globalism and the folks pushing it.  I laugh every time I hear it mentioned that climate change is a threat.  I will take climate change seriously when the beaches I go to are under water.  They are just fine so far.  I see no change.
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2020, 02:45:28 am »
The role of the party is getting people eleced, not scoring points in conservaive purity.

” James Baker, Reagan’s chief of staff and later his Treasury secretary, recalled in an interview: “‘I’d rather get 80 percent of what I want than go over the cliff with my flags flying.’”

The point is not the absolute number.

The point for political adults, is if you want "conservative" results, winning needs to take priority, versus losing to make statements.

Every Republican from Dole onward lost the populalar vote, save GWB 2nd term.

Making statements is not a productive strategy.
80% would seem like a Godsend. We haven't even been close.

Part of the problem, imho, is that the GOP hasn't fielded anyone Conservative in a while. Trump is batting about .500, and part of that problem is that the majority of the people in Congress aren't even in that league.

Unfortunately, it leaves us with people in Congress willing to pad the bejeebers out of (or allow the padding of)  necessary funding legislation and hold it hostage, and the choice for POTUS is to sign it and get the funding where it arguably should go or hold it up and suffer the blame for it not being passed.

The whole system, especially the Courts and Congress, but even more the "deep state" of the labyrinthine bureaucracy, politically contaminated in every agency at every level, is, in some instances fighting against Original Intent for its very existence, because some of those agencies would be a footnote in US History if we ever returned to the Constitution.
Throw in an ignorant populace voting for their bellies, most of whom couldn't tell you 5 amendments to the Constitution, much less what the rest says, a Media which distort everything, and the Republic has been in trouble since before the last conflict.
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2020, 04:14:25 am »
80% would seem like a Godsend. We haven't even been close.

Part of the problem, imho, is that the GOP hasn't fielded anyone Conservative in a while. Trump is batting about .500, and part of that problem is that the majority of the people in Congress aren't even in that league.]

After GHW's first term, the GOP has won a majority of popular votes just one ime with GWBush's 2nd term.

It strikes me the most popular goal of the "conservaties" is making statements,above winning elections.

I believe that was what Reagan meant by his "80 %" remark.

People that seem pleased with Flake and Amash, join here with people thaat called Trumps supporters racists and Nazis.

That is a lot of idiocy to overcome.

Reagan was correct and even if it is 80% or 55% the principle stands.
 
There many people paving roads for conservatism to appeal to a type of voter, different from the Roy Moore.

Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Kanye West, Larry Elder, Joe Rogan, Dave Ruben, Jonathan Peterson, Glen Beck, among them.

Streaming video-podcasts are additive to youtube video, not replacements.

Ruben is starting an alternative addition for video, as an example. Scott Adams announced today he will use it.

Instead of bitching, claiming victimhood, some people of a Class liberalism" bent, are persuading others.

Putting it differently, "conservatism" needs to grow by persuassion, not be resting on a unsuccessful paradigm, and shrinking demographic.

I needs to adapt to the terrain as it is, not as they wish it was. 
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2020, 04:23:03 am »
80% would seem like a Godsend. We haven't even been close.

Part of the problem, imho, is that the GOP hasn't fielded anyone Conservative in a while. Trump is batting about .500, and part of that problem is that the majority of the people in Congress aren't even in that league.]

After GHW's first term, the GOP has won a majority of popular votes just one ime with GWBush's 2nd term.

It strikes me the most popular goal of the "conservaties" is making statements,above winning elections.

I believe that was what Reagan meant by his "80 %" remark.

People that seem pleased with Flake and Amash, join here with people thaat called Trumps supporters racists and Nazis.

That is a lot of idiocy to overcome.

Reagan was correct and even if it is 80% or 55% the principle stands.
 
There many people paving roads for conservatism to appeal to a type of voter, different from the Roy Moore.

Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, Dennis Prager, Kanye West, Larry Elder, Joe Rogan, Dave Ruben, Jonathan Peterson, Glen Beck, among them.

Streaming video-podcasts are additive to mainstream radio, not replacements.

Ruben is starting an alternative addition for video, as an example. Scott Adams announced today he will use it.

Instead of bitching, claiming victimhood, some people of a Class liberalism" bent, are persuading others.
Sorry, that all landed in the quote box, so I had to sort it out.

Yes, there are voices calling for Conservatism, some more stringently than others.
That's good, but it has yet to overcome the good ol' boys inside the Beltway (on either side of the aisle), and that's an uphill grind all the way.

And they aren't running for office.

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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2020, 04:37:56 am »
Sorry, that all landed in the quote box, so I had to sort it out.

Yes, there are voices calling for Conservatism, some more stringently than others.
That's good, but it has yet to overcome the good ol' boys inside the Beltway (on either side of the aisle), and that's an uphill grind all the way.

And they aren't running for office.

I rarely consume cable TV, and I notice the OPs here are meant mainly to inflame anti-Trump above all else.

IOW I see nothing here, about growing conservatism's appeal or about winning.

OTOH I consume emerging new media, and see plenty of opportunity for conservatism.

Take three: Ruben, West and Owens.

While tradtional conservatives mostly complain, claim victimhood, Ruben is originating an alternative to youtube. He may have Silicon Valley billionaire backing.

Candace Owens is behind Blexit, and Kanye West ears a MAGA hat. Winning more black voters, means thwarting dems' certainty.

If other minorities see blacks moving, they will do so.



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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2020, 04:52:42 am »
I rarely consume cable TV, and I notice the OPs here are meant mainly to inflame anti-Trump above all else.

IOW I see nothing here, about growing conservatism's appeal or about winning.

OTOH I consume emerging new media, and see plenty of opportunity for conservatism.

Take three: Ruben, West and Owens.

While tradtional conservatives mostly complain, claim victimhood, Ruben is originating an alternative to youtube. He may have Silicon Valley billionaire backing.

Candace Owens is behind Blexit, and Kanye West ears a MAGA hat. Winning more black voters, means thwarting dems' certainty.

If other minorities see blacks moving, they will do so.
Candace Owens is a favorite. An alternative to YouTube will be welcome, believe me. Ruben and West are all right. We need more, but I have been working with youngsters around here to build their Conservative viewpoint. It will skip a generation, but they aren't fond of the idea of getting screwed for working hard and living within their means to pay for those who won't.

If there are any victims in the GOP< they have done it to themselves, by pandering to the lesser evil bit, and there has been a constant stream in the last 40 years of voting for the candidate to stop the other one from getting in. Reagan was an exception.

This last election, I voted for someone who had the US Constitution as his Party platform. It was refreshing. I had done the calculus of who would get the State's electoral votes, and that left me without qualm.

This time, we'll see what is happening.
I'm pissed at the media and don't trust a thing they say. That is because most of what isn't vile distortion is outright lies, I chase down the primary sources, and get the real data. It's amazing contrasted with ABCNNBCBS and the rest of the garbage on TV, which I rarely watch. I don't watch much of their 'programming' either, because that is exactly what it is--social programming. I'm far from humorless, but I haven't seen many comedians that get past snark into being actually funny, and rather than sit through the tedious guffaws of a laugh track, I just refrain.

Victim? Nope. Just pissed.
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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2020, 05:58:50 am »
I rarely consume cable TV, and I notice the OPs here are meant mainly to inflame anti-Trump above all else.

IOW I see nothing here, about growing conservatism's appeal or about winning.

OTOH I consume emerging new media, and see plenty of opportunity for conservatism.

Take three: Ruben, West and Owens.

While tradtional conservatives mostly complain, claim victimhood, Ruben is originating an alternative to youtube. He may have Silicon Valley billionaire backing.

Candace Owens is behind Blexit, and Kanye West ears a MAGA hat. Winning more black voters, means thwarting dems' certainty.

If other minorities see blacks moving, they will do so.


Bingo, Bingo! 
And if I support my president it is seen as 'odd' on here.  How far we have dropped.  :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:

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Re: Politically, Which Direction do you lean?
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2020, 06:33:01 pm »
100.00% Conservative.  Nothing else.

Same here.  And that's why I won't vote for any of the azzclown candidates running in November.