Congress looks at options to punish China over the coronavirus outbreak

[Elderberry]

American Military News by  Jennifer Haberkorn - Los Angeles Times and Tracy Wilkinson - Los Angeles Times 5/2/2020

Republican lawmakers and other U.S. officials, determined to punish China for concealing early data on the coronavirus outbreak, are proposing numerous measures to turn up the heat, from suing Beijing to ending U.S. military cooperation with Hollywood studios that censor their films for Chinese consumption.

Some of the proposals are less likely to prosper than others, but all come as the Trump administration is eager to deflect blame for its handling of the pandemic and amid a growing contempt for Chinese policies that many officials believe cost lives.

Senior administration officials have also toughened their rhetoric of China. After first praising Chinese President Xi Jinping for his handling of the coronavirus outbreak, Trump now blames China’s lack of transparency for deaths around the world. This week Trump said he was contemplating investigating China’s role in the spread of the disease.

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, plans to introduce a bill next week that would bar the Pentagon from advising U.S. film studios about war reenactment and other military practices, or lend military equipment for the movie, unless the filmmaker pledges to not censor the movie for Chinese audiences at Beijing’s behest, a relatively common practice.

More: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/05/congress-looks-at-options-to-punish-china-over-the-coronavirus-outbreak/

[Cyber Liberty]

That'll teach 'em.

[skeeter]

That'll teach 'em.

No more technical advisors for your war movies until you stop Chinese censoring. Seriously?

They'll just get em from the Chicoms.

[libertybele]

Disappointed in Ted.

Companies that continue to manufacture their goods in China need to be heavily taxed and tax breaks given to companies that bring back manufacturing to the U.S.  Pharmaceutical companies and those that manufacture medical supplies over in China need to be taxed at an even high rate and high tax breaks given to those companies that bring manufacturing back to the U.S.

Let's quit playing tiddly winks with the communists.

[EdinVA]

 

[skeeter]

Disappointed in Ted.

Companies that continue to manufacture their goods in China need to be heavily taxed and tax breaks given to companies that bring back manufacturing to the U.S.  Pharmaceutical companies and those that manufacture medical supplies over in China need to be taxed at an even high rate and high tax breaks given to those companies that bring manufacturing back to the U.S.

Let's quit playing tiddly winks with the communists.

His proposals look like more boob bait for bubba. Congress is not yet serious about this, it would seem.

[Cyber Liberty]

His proposals look like more boob bait for bubba. Congress is not yet serious about this, it would seem.

I doubt there will be really serious measures taken by Congress about China.  There will be Executive actions and regulations to get retribution, and there's public support for it.  People are becoming appalled at our dependency on China for things like PPEs and medicines.  It'll be fun watching the Rats try to fight them.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I doubt there will be really serious measures taken by Congress about China.  There will be Executive actions and regulations to get retribution, and there's public support for it.  People are becoming appalled at our dependency on China for things like PPEs and medicines.  It'll be fun watching the Rats try to fight them.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmieUrXwKCc

The rats ain't going to take a back seat to Trump on hating China.  If past is prologue, the China version of the Treaty of Versailles will be huge, and when it gets signed the Chinese people will be lucky to eat once a day.  I suspect their humiliating poverty, and inability to pay the sanctions will lead to more humiliation with occupation of Chinese lands, thus bringing to rise to a messianic dictator willing to challenge the world.

[Absalom]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmieUrXwKCc
The rats ain't going to take a back seat to Trump on hating China.  If past is prologue, the China version of the Treaty of Versailles will be huge, and when it gets signed the Chinese people will be lucky to eat once a day.  I suspect their humiliating poverty, and inability to pay the sanctions will lead to more humiliation with occupation of Chinese lands, thus bringing to rise to a messianic dictator willing to challenge the world.

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Once-Ler as you're no doubt aware, since the First Emperors
some 4000 yeas past; China has never been threat to anyone
but its own people.

[240B]

I doubt there will be really serious measures taken by Congress about China.  There will be Executive actions and regulations to get retribution, and there's public support for it.  People are becoming appalled at our dependency on China for things like PPEs and medicines.  It'll be fun watching the Rats try to fight them.

Congress? China?
Don't need it.
China is done. They're a Dead man.
They played the Joker card too soon.
Now, everyone knows what they are all about.
We don't need them. We don't want them.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

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Once-Ler as you're no doubt aware, since the First Emperors
some 4000 yeas past; China has never been threat to anyone
but its own people.

The people of Tibet, Vietnam and Hong Kong would not agree.  The COVID-19 virus itself makes your statement questionable, as does our own county's foreign policy.  Could you expound on your thinking @Absalom .  It makes little sense to me on it's surface.

[Chosen Daughter]

Refraining from comment until anything concrete comes from DC.

[skeeter]

I doubt there will be really serious measures taken by Congress about China.  There will be Executive actions and regulations to get retribution, and there's public support for it.  People are becoming appalled at our dependency on China for things like PPEs and medicines.  It'll be fun watching the Rats try to fight them.

There are too many US congressmen in the Chicoms’ pocket. If there is action against China at all it’ll have to be via executive order.

China is not the monolith we tend to think of them as. It will be interesting to see what happens when the good times stop rolling over there. I suspect they may implode.

[Absalom]

The people of Tibet, Vietnam and Hong Kong would not agree.  The COVID-19 virus itself makes your statement questionable, as does our own county's foreign policy.  Could you expound on your thinking @Absalom .  It makes little sense to me on it's surface.

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Fair enough.
China has been ruled from top down since day one to the present.
Their Rulers see ideas, the catalyst for a creative impulse, as a dangerous threat.
Hence they have been cheating, lying and stealing forever; no surprise.
Militarily, they have yet to reach the level of embarrassment, being a chronic punching bag.
During the 19th century, China went to war w/Britain, France, India, Japan and Russia;
some more than once; being soundly thrashed each and every time.
Based on their history, China is no threat to any serious nation.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

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Fair enough.
China has been ruled from top down since day one to the present.
Their Rulers see ideas, the catalyst for a creative impulse, as a dangerous threat.
Hence they have been cheating, lying and stealing forever; no surprise.
Militarily, they have yet to reach the level of embarrassment, being a chronic punching bag.
During the 19th century, China went to war w/Britain, France, India, Japan and Russia;
some more than once; being soundly thrashed each and every time.
Based on their history, China is no threat to any serious nation.

@Absalom thanks for your reply.

I understand what you wrote and I don't necessarily disagree with anything you wrote except your conclusion that "China is no threat to any serious nation."
I think the US is a serious nation

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203513/China-biggest-threat-America-poses-threat-says-Bill-Bar.html

Barr was asked whether he considered Russia or China the biggest security risk to the upcoming presidential election.

'In my opinion, it's China', Barr told FoxNews. 'Not just to the election process, but, I think, across the board.'

'There's simply no comparison,' Barr added. 'China is a very serious threat to the United States - geopolitically, economically, militarily, and a threat to the integrity of our institutions, given their ability to influence things.'

He also said:  “The Chinese are engaged in a full-court blitzkrieg of stealing American technology, trying to influence our political system, trying to steal secrets at our research universities and so forth.'

Maybe Barr is wrong.  Maybe Russia is a bigger threat, but I don't doubt China is a huge threat to US.

[jmyrlefuller]

Defaulting on the bonds we sold to Red China should be first.

[GtHawk]

I'm confused, why would Congress be looking to punish China over the Covid outbreak when I thought all along Pelosi and the democrats said eveything happening in America was Trumps fault?

[Absalom]

@Absalom thanks for your reply.
I understand what you wrote and I don't necessarily disagree with anything you wrote except your conclusion that "China is no threat to any serious nation."
I think the US is a serious nation

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203513/China-biggest-threat-America-poses-threat-says-Bill-Bar.html
Maybe Barr is wrong.  Maybe Russia is a bigger threat, but I don't doubt China is a huge threat to US.

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Once-Ler.
My judgement of the direct Chinese threat to the USA is less than zero, militarily; while about zero, economically.
Nevertheless the embarrassments we label leaders, has emboldened China to deal w/us as a clown nation/state they can manipulate, easily.
As a result:
* they seduce our crony capitalists, whose only loyalties are to fat wallets, into investing in China.
* they hustle globalist assholery like the UN into promoting their agenda in the 3rd world, as benign.
* they promote fear among their neighbors, creating unease along the Pacific Rim, excepting Japan.
So I will concede your point that China, while not a threat, is certainly a serious danger to stability.
Having said that, I'm reminded of a tale about Asian Powers, from my days at Trinity, Dublin.
Around the 4th Century BC, the Persian Empire emerged, conquering and enslaving virtually all of SW Asia, under the Achaemenid Dynasty who insisted all within their reach. kow-tow or suffer their wrath. Predictably, the Greeks refused so Emperor Darius III decided to exterminate them.
The Greeks, led by Alexander, and outnumbered by almost 5 to 1, engaged the Persians at
Gaugamela (Mosul, Iraq) in 331 BC and within half a day (according to Plutarch) annihilated the Persian horde, exceeding 250,000; destroying their Empire!!!
Moral of the story: size cannot measure strength and resolve.
Two Asian nation/states escaped that neurosis; India, due to Great Britain and Japan, due to the USA. Stay well.