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       Oftentimes I'm reminded of this guy.

That's what I said "dreamy."

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   He's already got Liberals doing Clorox IV drips, it might be a good time for him to scale back, it's for the kids, ya know.



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Look how smart these men ARE!  Some of you believe, LEFT lying media.  I had to add some words.  I realized my posts are not clear enough.   


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That is why you're here @LegalAmerican
So you seem to be implying the media lies, is that correct?
That is news to me, and devastating if true.
Is this the first time everyone else is hearing about this too?

Someone should warned the White House. 8888huh



NO. Talking about some of YOU believing it.  Why post this article?   I read some comments.  Apparently some don't know!   
Why so snarky? 

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Just another lying HIT PIECE.....since when do people listen to MEDIA? 

Actually a lot of people do, maybe the majority as a matter of fact. And Trump needn't give them ammunition like this.

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I’m probably going to piss many of you off by saying this and frankly I don’t give a damn. When it comes to medicine and science, despite his uncle being a “brilliant MIT engineer” as if that was hereditary, Trump is an idiot. Yes, I said it, he’s an idiot. But unlike your crazy uncle spouting off crazy nonsense at the Thanksgiving dinner table or looking directly at the Sun during a solar eclipse, he is POTUS and needs to be held to a higher standard.



Trump should open these briefings by giving (reading) a brief general overview of the current situation and giving the country words of encouragement. He should then turn it over to the members of the task force and leave.

These pressers have become more ridiculous each and every passing day and his tangents and boasts and attacks on the press and political opponents more akin to one of his rallies are not IMO helping the situation. But Trump loves the “ratings”, you know he beat the Bachelor finale ratings don’t you? He even told us so.

When Bill Bryan of the Science and Technology Directorate at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was giving his presentation, he was talking about studies being done that “preliminarily” indicate that sunlight and the application of bleach and isopropyl alcohol and other disinfectants kill the virus on solid non-porous surfaces and the possible effect that heat and humidity has on the virus when it is aerosolized.

That’s when Trump went on his tangent, quoted here from the official White House transcript:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/

Note he is not seeming to say that this injection “inside” means cleaning indoor or outdoor spaces as he says “So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with”. Why would you need medical doctors involved in disinfecting indoor or outdoor spaces or surfaces?

I watched it and re-watched it several times. At no point did this sound like Trump was being “sarcastic”.

It goes on where Bryan has to clarify several times and explain to Trump that hands are not a non-porous surface:

Bryan here doing the delicate dance that so many others have been forced to learn of correcting without contradicting the self-described stable genius who has a “knack for this stuff”.

As I understand from several reports, Trump does not attend the task force pre-briefing meetings where he could have these discussions with the task force and ask these questions and get answers and clarifications beforehand, and that he reads or more precisely skims the briefing material only just before the briefing. If Trump wants to “brainstorm” his “ideas”, that should be done behind closed doors before broadcasting his stream of consciousness on live TV. So what is he actually doing beforehand? Watching cable news and Tweeting of course.

FWIW – here is a clip. For one thing, does Trump seem to be “joking” or being “sarcastic”? The other is the look on Dr. Birx face. I’ve seen it described as “the moment your soul leaves your body” and one person on Twitter that her blinking was perhaps her blinking out a Morse Code SOS distress call.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=BalDN6iGYpE

Oh then there’s this:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

Not one to be content to just listen to (or read) accounts of things without checking further, I did a little digging

Disinfectant:
https://www.hollywoodlanews.com/hydrogen-peroxide-disinfectant-coronavirus-treatment/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/hydrogen-peroxide-a-potential-treatment-for-coronavirus-infection/ar-BB12qktc
Not injection, but inhalation of nebulized Hydrogen Peroxide (yes, it can also be used as a disinfectant) which shows promise in killing viruses, bacteria, and fungi.   So, don't start mainlining Lysol.

UV light: (which may well have merit)
https://www.hollywoodlanews.com/uv-light-kills-coronavirus/

peer reviewed on UV light injection:Ultraviolet Irradiation of Blood: “The Cure That Time Forgot”?
Adv Exp Med Biol. 2017 ; 996: 295–309. doi:10.1007/978-3-319-56017-5_25

Yep, UV piped into a blood vessel and exposure of 3-5% of the patient's blood volume to UV. The purpose is to kill the viruses present, and the body builds antibodies to the dead viruses, much the same mechanism as it uses to build antibodies with a vaccine, only without adjuvants, squalene, and preservatives believed to cause many of the harmful side effects of vaccines.  This was being researched in the '40s, but then the antibiotic and vaccine folks sort of pushed it aside. ($$$?)  It is worth another look, especially in the age of fiber optics.

While Trump might not always express it just right, the ridicule of an ignorant press corps is worse. They aren't doctors, for the most part, either.
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Except he did ask Dr. Birx.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/

THE PRESIDENT:  Deborah, have you ever heard of that?  The heat and the light, relative to certain viruses, yes, but relative to this virus?

DR. BIRX:  Not as a treatment.  I mean, certainly fever —

THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.

DR. BIRX:  — is a good thing.  When you have a fever, it helps your body respond.  But not as — I’ve not seen heat or (inaudible).

THE PRESIDENT:  I think it’s a great thing to look at.  I mean, you know.  Okay?
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Except he did ask Dr. Birx.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/

THE PRESIDENT:  Deborah, have you ever heard of that?  The heat and the light, relative to certain viruses, yes, but relative to this virus?

DR. BIRX:  Not as a treatment.  I mean, certainly fever —

THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.

DR. BIRX:  — is a good thing.  When you have a fever, it helps your body respond.  But not as — I’ve not seen heat or (inaudible).

THE PRESIDENT:  I think it’s a great thing to look at.  I mean, you know.  Okay?

I'm just amazed President Trump wants to keep digging. :dighole:

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NO. Talking about some of YOU believing it.  Why post this article?   I read some comments.  Apparently some don't know!   
Why so snarky?

Who?  Who on this board believes the media is fair, or doesn't have an agenda contrary to our President?  Who here didn't recognize the liberal bias of the media long before President Trump won the GOP nomination? 

The answer is nobody @LegalAmerican that's why so snarky.  Before he turned tail and fled, because the media ain't fair, I gave praise to my President for enduring the daily Press Conferences.  I overlooked his communication flaws and focused on the reassuring image of my President repeating his #1 priority is saving lives, his consistent reinforcing of the 15, and 30 day plan, and his optimistic emphasis on returning to normal as soon as possible.  I even felt sorry for him 2 days ago, and defended his questions about UV and disinfectants as legitimate.

But I do not defend leadership by tweet.

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Who?  Who on this board believes the media is fair, or doesn't have an agenda contrary to our President?  Who here didn't recognize the liberal bias of the media long before President Trump won the GOP nomination? 

The answer is nobody @LegalAmerican that's why so snarky.  Before he turned tail and fled, because the media ain't fair, I gave praise to my President for enduring the daily Press Conferences.  I overlooked his communication flaws and focused on the reassuring image of my President repeating his #1 priority is saving lives, his consistent reinforcing of the 15, and 30 day plan, and his optimistic emphasis on returning to normal as soon as possible.  I even felt sorry for him 2 days ago, and defended his questions about UV and disinfectants as legitimate.

But I do not defend leadership by tweet.
If I was the President, I'd have kicked most of those snarky b@stards out of the White House long ago.
He didn't, he's just reduced the dose. and cut his exposure. 
Let him have some days off from things getting twisted up. I would reckon he's a mite tired of their sh*t.
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Actually a lot of people do, maybe the majority as a matter of fact. And Trump needn't give them ammunition like this.


Does not matter what POTUS does or does not do.  Already, the LEFT is saying, "what is he hiding", scaling back on briefings as Covid-19 is declining.  DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HE SAYS, HOW HE SAYS IT, WHEN HE SAYS IT.
www.magapill.com. Why are people listening to ANY MEDIA?  ALL LIES ALL THE TIME. 

I have many video's of media lying.  Start
https://youtu.be/Gw8c2Cq-vpg Then
https://youtu.be/Vsbr8QMPLWY  2 more like this.  FUN; https://youtu.be/AnrTC6pxzCQ.   

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Does not matter what POTUS does or does not do.  Already, the LEFT is saying, "what is he hiding", scaling back on briefings as Covid-19 is declining.  DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HE SAYS, HOW HE SAYS IT, WHEN HE SAYS IT.
www.magapill.com. Why are people listening to ANY MEDIA?  ALL LIES ALL THE TIME. 

I have many video's of media lying.  Start
https://youtu.be/Gw8c2Cq-vpg Then
https://youtu.be/Vsbr8QMPLWY  2 more like this.  FUN; https://youtu.be/AnrTC6pxzCQ.
Well who would think he was talking about



instead of



Anyway?
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

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Who?  Who on this board believes the media is fair, or doesn't have an agenda contrary to our President?  Who here didn't recognize the liberal bias of the media long before President Trump won the GOP nomination? 

The answer is nobody @LegalAmerican that's why so snarky.  Before he turned tail and fled, because the media ain't fair, I gave praise to my President for enduring the daily Press Conferences.  I overlooked his communication flaws and focused on the reassuring image of my President repeating his #1 priority is saving lives, his consistent reinforcing of the 15, and 30 day plan, and his optimistic emphasis on returning to normal as soon as possible.  I even felt sorry for him 2 days ago, and defended his questions about UV and disinfectants as legitimate.

But I do not defend leadership by tweet.



See, turned tail and fled? You think this is something positive to say or think?  He has zero communications flaws. That is all on you people who have hearing comprehension issues. I understand him perfectly.  There are no journalists any more. If we ever had any.  Nothing is gained by talking to them...ever.  Same with you.  They ask the most ignorant questions and push the most bull, I have ever heard in my life time. "When will people stop getting this VIRUS?  WILL IT COME BACK?  Who will get it?"   As if he is clairvoyant or some GOD. I love his tweets as that is one way to get out truth and his ACTUAL words.  A lot of male Trump envy.  Always has been. Ta.

I have many video's of media lying.  Start
https://youtu.be/Gw8c2Cq-vpg Then
https://youtu.be/Vsbr8QMPLWY  2 more like this.  FUN;
https://youtu.be/AnrTC6pxzCQ.   

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Well who would think he was talking about



instead of



Anyway?


Good one!   888high58888

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Except he did ask Dr. Birx.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-31/

THE PRESIDENT:  Deborah, have you ever heard of that?  The heat and the light, relative to certain viruses, yes, but relative to this virus?

DR. BIRX:  Not as a treatment.  I mean, certainly fever —

THE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.

DR. BIRX:  — is a good thing.  When you have a fever, it helps your body respond.  But not as — I’ve not seen heat or (inaudible).

THE PRESIDENT:  I think it’s a great thing to look at.  I mean, you know.  Okay?


You need to learn about timeline. When things were said.  Out of context. 

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 The guardian....ONE OF THE WORST AND LYING  P.O.S. SITES THAT EXIST.  That people would actually use that as a source, shows how uninformed they are. Might as well us WIKI.  Why don't some of these posters RUN FOR PRESIDENT?   They have ALL THE ANSWERS.   lol

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See, turned tail and fled? You think this is something positive to say or think?
No.  I think it is what a coward does.
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He has zero communications flaws. That is all on you people who have hearing comprehension issues.
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I understand him perfectly.  There are no journalists any more. If we ever had any.  Nothing is gained by talking to them...ever.  Same with you. 
I'm sorry you feel that way.  I believe your dangerously fanatical rants are illustrative of many other people, and can serve as a warning.

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President Trump has great pollsters and our President knows every time he hits 50%.  If his polls go down, he'll be back. 

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I just fear for the damage of the soon to be epic tweetstorm coming.

Called that too