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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #700 on: December 28, 2023, 01:08:23 am »
Considering Pedo Joe won GA's 16 EV's by 12K votes . . .

And it took four days of counting to do it.
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« Reply #701 on: December 28, 2023, 01:55:08 am »
And it took four days of counting to do it.
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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #702 on: December 28, 2023, 11:02:36 pm »
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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #704 on: December 31, 2023, 10:02:12 pm »
Not only did they not perform audits after the election, they failed to certify these machines BEFORE the election AS REQUIRED BY LAW.  And to make matters worse, they used these same machines in the US Senate runoff two months later, again without certifying them.
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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #705 on: December 31, 2023, 10:37:49 pm »

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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #706 on: January 01, 2024, 04:55:09 pm »
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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #707 on: January 01, 2024, 05:31:52 pm »
Georgia officials ask FBI to investigate emails from pro-Trump election skeptic

Greg Bluestein  |  5 hours ago


Georgia officials have asked the FBI to investigate a series of emails a Texas activist sent members of the State Election Board demanding an investigation into Georgia’s 2020 election, according to three people familiar with the situation.

The emails, which were obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, were sent by Kevin Moncla to the members of the State Election Board and an aide to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

Moncla and Joe Rossi, a Houston County resident, recently filed a complaint that claims errors in Fulton County’s recount of the 2020 presidential election. The State Election Board delayed taking action on the case Tuesday  .  .  .

https://archive.is/f70c3#selection-1795.0-1815.86



The egregious bias of the AJC does not go unnoticed here.  For example, what the AJC refers to as a "recently filed" complaint was actually filed in July 2022.  The takeaway here is that finally after a year and a half, the State Election Board scheduled a hearing, and then subsequently cancelled that hearing at the last minute.  On top of that, the State Election Board is now asking for help from the FBI.  In other words, the board is saying that they are doing a piss-poor job of covering this up and need professional cover-up help from the experts at the FBI.

The plaintiffs here are doing it right, challenging the illegalities of the election instead of stupidly claiming "fraud" just because a certain candidate lost.  We still have over 67K ballots from ineligible voters, 17K ballot images that are missing, 20K ballot images present with no accounting of where they came from.  Not to mention the hundreds upon hundreds of ballots counted more than once.  And it is quite telling that the State Election Board refuses to allow any investigation of this and is now asking for help from the FBI to block it.  Plaintiffs should be expecting federal arrest warrants in the coming year.   


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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #708 on: January 03, 2024, 01:06:01 pm »
True the Vote wins intimidation case over Georgia voter challenges

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution by Mark Niesse 1/3/2024

Judge finds conservative group didn’t violate Voting Rights Act

A federal judge ruled Tuesday in favor of the conservative group True the Vote, deciding that mass challenges of Georgia voters’ eligibility didn’t amount to illegal voter intimidation.
U.S. District Judge Steve Jones wrote in a 145-page order that there was insufficient evidence that True the Vote tried to threaten or coerce voters.

Jones’ ruling is a defeat for Fair Fight Action, the voting rights group founded by Democrat Stacey Abrams that was the lead plaintiff in the case.

Fair Fight alleged that True the Vote and its allies violated the Voting Rights Act when they challenged the eligibility of 250,000 Georgia voters before runoffs that decided control of the U.S. Senate in early 2021. County election boards rejected the vast majority of the voter challenges.

“Not only have plaintiffs failed to overcome the fact that their actions did not result in any direct voter contact or alone include or direct county boards of elections to pursue an eligibility inquiry, but there is no evidence that defendants’ actions caused (or attempted to cause) any voter to be intimidated, coerced, or threatened in voting,” Jones wrote.

The founder of True the Vote, Catherine Engelbrecht, called the ruling “a resounding vindication” in an email to supporters.
“Today’s ruling sends a clear message to those who would attempt to control the course of our nation through lawfare and intimidation. American citizens will not be silenced,” Engelbrecht said.

But Jones faulted True the Vote’s methods, which relied on huge spreadsheets that listed voters who had submitted change-of-address forms with the U.S. Postal Service.

More: https://archive.is/z6Ouy#selection-1959.0-1959.167

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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #709 on: January 15, 2024, 12:29:07 am »
Georgia Senators Introduce Bill to REMOVE SecState Raffensperger from Election Board

Kaley  |  Jan 13, 2024


Georgia State Senators are taking a huge step forward to uncover the truth of what really happened during the fraudulent 2020 election and prevent it from happening again this November…

A bill was just introduced to:

1. Remove Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger from the State Election Board, and

2. Give the board authority to INVESTIGATE Raffensperger for covering up 2020 election fraud.


https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1746281934916141454

https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-georgia-senators-introduce-bill-to-remove-secstate-raffensperger-from-election-board/
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« Reply #710 on: January 15, 2024, 12:31:32 am »
Here are the names of the Senators behind the bill:


https://twitter.com/MarciMcCarthyUS/status/1746320581010522189



Brandon Beach is #9 on that list.  He was punished severely by the corrupt Georgia GOP for challenging the results shortly after the election.
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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #711 on: January 15, 2024, 12:52:12 am »
Georgia Senators Introduce Bill to REMOVE SecState Raffensperger from Election Board

Kaley  |  Jan 13, 2024


Georgia State Senators are taking a huge step forward to uncover the truth of what really happened during the fraudulent 2020 election and prevent it from happening again this November…

A bill was just introduced to:

1. Remove Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger from the State Election Board, and

2. Give the board authority to INVESTIGATE Raffensperger for covering up 2020 election fraud.

That's interesting. Possibility of it passing?
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Re: Georgia: Legal Updates
« Reply #712 on: January 15, 2024, 12:57:20 am »
Georgia Senators Introduce Bill to REMOVE SecState Raffensperger from Election Board

Kaley  |  Jan 13, 2024


Georgia State Senators are taking a huge step forward to uncover the truth of what really happened during the fraudulent 2020 election and prevent it from happening again this November…

A bill was just introduced to:

1. Remove Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger from the State Election Board, and

2. Give the board authority to INVESTIGATE Raffensperger for covering up 2020 election fraud.


https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1746281934916141454

https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-georgia-senators-introduce-bill-to-remove-secstate-raffensperger-from-election-board/

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« Reply #713 on: January 15, 2024, 02:14:43 am »
That's interesting. Possibility of it passing?

I would say the odds are against them.  It's almost impossible to get anything worthwhile passed by the Georgia legislature.  It is politics at its worst.  They can only stay in session for 40 days, so there is a lot that gets left out at the end.  It also makes the House Speaker extremely powerful.

One thing working in their favor is that the former Speaker (and bigtime POS) David Ralston died last year.  He is the one who got Beach stripped of all his committee seats back in 2021 for daring to oppose the Governor and Sec. of State.  So with him gone, they may have a chance.

Either way, Raffensperger has been exposed as a serial liar.  Maybe the Governor is ready to distance himself from him. 
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« Reply #714 on: January 15, 2024, 04:12:36 pm »
I would say the odds are against them.  It's almost impossible to get anything worthwhile passed by the Georgia legislature.  It is politics at its worst.  They can only stay in session for 40 days, so there is a lot that gets left out at the end.  It also makes the House Speaker extremely powerful.

One thing working in their favor is that the former Speaker (and bigtime POS) David Ralston died last year.  He is the one who got Beach stripped of all his committee seats back in 2021 for daring to oppose the Governor and Sec. of State.  So with him gone, they may have a chance.

Either way, Raffensperger has been exposed as a serial liar.  Maybe the Governor is ready to distance himself from him.

Kemp's a major liar as well, so there's that.
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« Reply #715 on: January 20, 2024, 04:19:53 pm »
Lawsuit Uncovers How Raffensperger Tried To Memory-Hole The Election Law Trump’s Georgia Call Was About

Election integrity advocates recently had a very important win when a federal district court ruled that challenging the eligibility of thousands of voters in Georgia did not constitute “voter intimidation.”

Back in 2020, True the Vote, Derek Somerville and I, and three other activists were all sued by Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight organization for allegedly violating the Prohibited Acts section of the Voting Rights Act. We had independently organized two different sets of challenges to voters with residency issues ahead of Georgia’s 2021 U.S. Senate runoff. True the Vote’s challenges were broader in scope than the challenges Derek and I had coordinated, which were narrowly focused on voters who appeared to have already cast ballots with residency issues in the 2020 general election.

When the judge ruled in favor of all the defendants in the case and found that there had “not been any violation of Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act by any of the named Defendants,” we got to experience “the thrill of victory,” and Fair Fight got to experience “the agony of defeat,” which was well deserved for dragging our good names through the mud for three solid years.

While it certainly felt great to finally be exonerated, what exactly did we “win”? We may have bloodied the noses of the schoolyard bullies, but other than walking away satisfied and knowing that they may think twice before coming after us again, what was the point of it all?  ...

More at headline link
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« Reply #716 on: January 20, 2024, 06:30:34 pm »
From @Bigun 's article:

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Well, now I know. So let me tell you the story of “Exhibit 61.”

In May 2021, I gave nearly 35,000 voter records to our secretary of state for an investigation into votes cast in the 2020 general election with residency issues, which his office had already agreed to open. The analysis of the voter data I had done on or about Nov. 25, 2020, indicated those voters had filed changes of address to an address in a different county more than 30 days before the election, but they had apparently failed to re-register there and wound up casting ballots in their previous counties.

When they did so, if they knowingly lied about where they lived, that would have arguably been a felony violation of Georgia Code § 21-2-562. Some of those voters may have filed those permanent changes of address for what was really a temporary relocation, but certainly not all of them.

Following that election, more than a third of those voters finally got around to updating their driver’s licenses and/or voter registrations to the exact same addresses they told the U.S. Postal Service they were moving to well before the election. When they did so, they basically provided corroborating evidence that the change of address information they gave the USPS was accurate.

In July, WSB-TV Atlanta decided to do a story on all this after an article about it was published by The Federalist. WSB-TV filed an open records request with the secretary of state, got a copy of the data, and went out to interview some of those voters.

One voter candidly admitted he’d moved from Fulton to DeKalb but went back and voted in Fulton. Another was seemingly indignant and vehemently insisted that although he had indeed moved from Gwinnett to Fulton, he voted with a Fulton County ballot and put it in a Fulton County drop box. Yet the absentee data and the vote history trailers both indicated he voted in his old county. Part of me wished Channel 2 hadn’t put those voters on the spot like that, but the rest of me wished they had interviewed a hundred more people on the list!


That is 35,000 illegal votes on this one statute alone - 35,000 felonies.  And people still want to claim that there is no proof of wrongdoing?

So what did Raffensperger's office do about it?  They removed the wording from the Voter website reminding Georgians what the law says.
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« Reply #717 on: January 20, 2024, 11:13:55 pm »
Lawsuit Uncovers How Raffensperger Tried To Memory-Hole The Election Law Trump’s Georgia Call Was About

Election integrity advocates recently had a very important win when a federal district court ruled that challenging the eligibility of thousands of voters in Georgia did not constitute “voter intimidation.”

Back in 2020, True the Vote, Derek Somerville and I, and three other activists were all sued by Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight organization for allegedly violating the Prohibited Acts section of the Voting Rights Act. We had independently organized two different sets of challenges to voters with residency issues ahead of Georgia’s 2021 U.S. Senate runoff. True the Vote’s challenges were broader in scope than the challenges Derek and I had coordinated, which were narrowly focused on voters who appeared to have already cast ballots with residency issues in the 2020 general election.

When the judge ruled in favor of all the defendants in the case and found that there had “not been any violation of Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act by any of the named Defendants,” we got to experience “the thrill of victory,” and Fair Fight got to experience “the agony of defeat,” which was well deserved for dragging our good names through the mud for three solid years.

While it certainly felt great to finally be exonerated, what exactly did we “win”? We may have bloodied the noses of the schoolyard bullies, but other than walking away satisfied and knowing that they may think twice before coming after us again, what was the point of it all?  ...

More at headline link

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« Reply #718 on: January 20, 2024, 11:16:59 pm »
'True the Vote' - doing the job that Trump wouldn't do.
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« Reply #719 on: January 21, 2024, 01:05:22 am »
So did the 35,000 voters vote in BOTH counties?  It's not clear, at least to me. @Hoodat

No.  It is that they voted in the wrong county in violation of State law.  There votes were illegal and should not have been counted.
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« Reply #720 on: January 21, 2024, 02:57:37 am »
No.  It is that they voted in the wrong county in violation of State law.  There votes were illegal and should not have been counted.

@Hoodat

Thanks for clearing that up.
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