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Marx also described Religion as the opiate of the People.

His reasons for that animus were simple enough.
People who felt personal, physical sacrifice for other people were more likely to endure hardship without revolt, offering their suffering up to God for the absolution from their sins.
They could be controlled by the clergy to some extent, undermining politicians, and yes, Marx himself.

People who endure are less likely to revolt. They render unto Caesar, so long as Caesar isn't too greedy.

And yes, from the git-go, Christianity offers a choice.

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I don't think most Americans realize that "Priest" was a KGB Career Field in the old USSR.

I know for a FACT that I was lied to as a child,and told the "commies shut all the churches down!",and that WAS an absolute lie.

Hell,it even defies common sense. WHY would they shut down an establishment where the common people went to confess all their sins and ask for redemption? Such an establishment is THE perfect place for agents of the state to keep track of subversion,sedition,and to just know who is  humping someone else's husband or wife,or who is stealing from their factory job so you can use them as informers in the future?
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@Smokin Joe

I don't think most Americans realize that "Priest" was a KGB Career Field in the old USSR.

I know for a FACT that I was lied to as a child,and told the "commies shut all the churches down!",and that WAS an absolute lie.

Hell,it even defies common sense. WHY would they shut down an establishment where the common people went to confess all their sins and ask for redemption? Such an establishment is THE perfect place for agents of the state to keep track of subversion,sedition,and to just know who is  humping someone else's husband or wife,or who is stealing from their factory job so you can use them as informers in the future?
That's one angle, the other is that the babushkas kept them going as well. No one was going to go shooting grandmas, even in the USSR.
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@skeeter @Absalom

If it is true,why do you care,and why aren't you either ignoring his post or thanking him for making it?

Do NOT get caught up in the right-wing version of the left's PC Conditioning. Something is either true or untrue,regardless of the politics.

Why am I any less entitled to state my opinion than he is?

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That's one angle, the other is that the babushkas kept them going as well. No one was going to go shooting grandmas, even in the USSR.

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You got THAT one right! They did and said whatever they wanted to do or say,and God/Marx help anybody that bothered them.

Going to the police about one bothering you wouldn't help you,either. The typical Soviet street cop would beat the snot out of you for irritating one.

I even remember being in awe of one giving a street cop hell in Moscow. I don't speak Russian and have no idea what she was saying,but he stood there as meek as a lamb with his head down,and took it. This is something I do NOT recommend anyone else try doing because it won't work well for you.

Thinking about it,I now feel sorry for the next Russian citizen that cop bumped into for doing something wrong.

Traditionally,it was the grandmother in Russia that fed,clothed,and raised all the children because the parents,if they were still alive and free,were too busy working in a factory,a shop,or a field to have the time to raise children. This made grannies virtually bulletproof in the USSR. EVERYBODY loved them.

I suspect this is still true today,although I don't know this for sure. Traditions aren't easily dismissed.
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Why am I any less entitled to state my opinion than he is?

@skeeter

You are as free as a bird to express any opinion you like,AFAIAK.

I just thought you might appreciate looking at it from another angle.
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A suggestion; before canonizing Lindell, a dose of reality might be appropriate.
To his credit; he turned his life around by quitting booze and drugs, yet his
business behavior has been less than exemplary.
He settled out of Court for $ millions w/several States, charges of
deceptive/false advertising where "My Pillow" promoted its product by claiming
that its pillows eased/mitigated the symptoms of acid reflux, menopause,
cerebral palsy, multiple sclerosis, insomnia, migraine and fibromyalgia;
w/o any test evidence to support these claims.


Speaking of evidence to support claims....

what is your source for that one?   Got proof?  Link?   Anything?

Pretend I'm from Missouri.   Show me.   
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@skeeter

You are as free as a bird to express any opinion you like,AFAIAK.

I just thought you might appreciate looking at it from another angle.

Personally, I think the whole My Pillow thing, while a brilliant marketing coup, has alot in common with the story of Tom Sawyer's whitewashed fence. But so is just about every other successful consumer marketing strategy in this country. Its the way its done - are you really 'worth it' as Loreal says? Is KFC finger lickin good? Is Bounty actually the quicker picker upper?

Speaking for myself, if I see another commercial pimping Geezer Dream Sheets I'm gonna hurl.

As far as Lindell's legal troubles, maybe there is some veracity in the suits, but then again maybe he's being targeted for his pronounced support of Trump. It's happened before, many times. Personally I think its more than likely - just look at who attacks him here.

As far as Lindell himself is concerned, he seems genuine in his faith and his support of the president. I will not question his sincerity.

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Personally, I think the whole My Pillow thing, while a brilliant marketing coup, has alot in common with the story of Tom Sawyer's whitewashed fence. But so is just about every other successful consumer marketing strategy in this country. Its the way its done - are you really 'worth it' as Loreal says? Is KFC finger lickin good? Is Bounty actually the quicker picker upper?

Speaking for myself, if I see another commercial pimping Geezer Dream Sheets I'm gonna hurl.

As far as Lyndell's legal troubles, maybe there is some veracity in the suits, but then again maybe he's being targeted for his pronounced support of Trump. It's happened before, many times. Personally I think its more than likely - just look at who attacks him here.

As far as Lyndell himself is concerned, he seems genuine in his faith and his support of the president. I will not question his sincerity.

Isn't it funny how the idiot left loves to point to someone's past sins and failures..... as long as they're on the right and/or Christians.   But not so much when it's one of their own idiots on the left....lol.
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Isn't it funny how the idiot left loves to point to someone's past sins and failures..... as long as they're on the right and/or Christians.   But not so much when it's one of their own idiots on the left....lol.

Credulity comes easy when the charge is supportive of a predisposition.

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How many masks have to sewn, how many ventilators have you built? Are you turning your business over to aid in combating this pandemic?
And before your smarmy attitude kicks in, I spent the last 6 days writing and 3 days putting my curriculum online by making videos scanning drawings so that my students will be able to have all the material for their college level drawing class.
And for the record I have a Niece and two close friends that are ICU nurses. My Niece had to wear the same mask for 4 twelve hour sifts because @$$hole Cuomo did not bother to replenish the strategic reserve of medical equipment after Obozo's mishandling of H1N1. So yeah I am damn grateful that men like Lindell are stepping up to do the right thing.
And while I am on my soapbox Remington Arms has offered to build the ventilators that @$$HOLE Cuomo wants to steal from upstate New York. But he has refused to even talk to them. Yeah he really gives a Shite about the people of his state.
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Speaking of evidence to support claims....
what is your source for that one?   Got proof?  Link?   Anything?
Pretend I'm from Missouri.   Show me.
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Class action suits were brought by State Attorneys in California and Oregon
charging My Pillow with deceptive/false advertising and unsupportable marketing claims.
The lawsuits were settled out of court to avoid lengthy damage to the brand.

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Class action suits were brought by State Attorneys in California and Oregon
charging My Pillow with deceptive/false advertising and unsupportable marketing claims.
The lawsuits were settled out of court to avoid lengthy damage to the brand.

So.... no actual proof of any wrong-doing.   Just the usual.....

lawsuits.

Got it.    *****rollingeyes*****
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Class action suits were brought by State Attorneys in California and Oregon
charging My Pillow with deceptive/false advertising and unsupportable marketing claims.
The lawsuits were settled out of court to avoid lengthy damage to the brand.

Nice link you have there....
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
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About those lawsuits - this is a report on the settlement of the California claims:

My Pillow Settles Consumer Lawsuit Over Health Claims for $1 Million


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The result was a stipulated judgment, meaning the company  admitted no wrongdoing, that included $995,000 in civil penalties and a pledge to give $100,000 to homeless and domestic violence shelters in California.

“We decided to pay out rather than pay millions to prove our innocence,” Lindell told the Star Tribune in Minnesota, where the company is based.

https://www.consumerreports.org/my-pillow/my-pillow-health-claims-lawsuit-settlement/

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That's one angle, the other is that the babushkas kept them going as well. No one was going to go shooting grandmas, even in the USSR.

Shoot 'em, no. Starve an' freeze 'em, yeah.

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About those lawsuits - this is a report on the settlement of the California claims:

My Pillow Settles Consumer Lawsuit Over Health Claims for $1 Million


https://www.consumerreports.org/my-pillow/my-pillow-health-claims-lawsuit-settlement/

Finally, a link!   Smoke 'em if you got 'em, folks....
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Finally, a link!   Smoke 'em if you got 'em, folks....

Didn't find anything definitive on the Oregon suit, other than it had to do with an allegedly fraudulent BOGO offer.  Haven't found whether that was settled yet. 

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About those lawsuits - this is a report on the settlement of the California claims:

My Pillow Settles Consumer Lawsuit Over Health Claims for $1 Million


https://www.consumerreports.org/my-pillow/my-pillow-health-claims-lawsuit-settlement/

So, a bit short of the claimed,

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He settled out of Court for $ millions w/several States

And still irrelevant to this conversion of his factory to producing respirator masks ... the supposed topic of this thread.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Absalom wrote:
"Class action suits were brought by State Attorneys in California and Oregon..."

STOP RIGHT THERE.
State Attorneys in California and Oregon?
You mean... like... Kamala Harris...?

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Absalom wrote:
"Class action suits were brought by State Attorneys in California and Oregon..."

STOP RIGHT THERE.
State Attorneys in California and Oregon?
You mean... like... Kamala Harris...?

Which is why the Wisconsin State Legislature passed an' Gov. Walker signed into state law restrictions on the Attorney General prohibiting him from filing such lawsuits without permission from both the State Assembly an' State Senate as well as the Governor. He also cannot settle lawsuits without conferring with an' receiving consent from the legislature.

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So.... no actual proof of any wrong-doing.   Just the usual.....
lawsuits.
Got it.    *****rollingeyes*****
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Hmm.......so My Pillow handed over $millions to litigants who had no proof???
They settled these lawsuits out of Court to avoid the negative publicity of a
trial that would further damage the brand.
Suggest you dismount your pretentious high-horse and wake up.
 

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Hmm.......so My Pillow handed over $millions to litigants who had no proof???
They settled these lawsuits out of Court to avoid the negative publicity of a
trial that would further damage the brand.
Suggest you dismount your pretentious high-horse and wake up.

If I gave you the suggestion that I have in mind right now....

I'd probably get banned.   
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Hmm.......so My Pillow handed over $millions to litigants who had no proof???
They settled these lawsuits out of Court to avoid the negative publicity of a
trial that would further damage the brand.
Suggest you dismount your pretentious high-horse and wake up.
A million dollars is penny change to the breed of ambulance chasers that brought things like the tobacco lawsuit and the other "If you or a loved one ..." type suits that are advertising for class members on my teevee daily.

The attorneys will collect fees and expenses and such from every class member and by the time the settlement is done will be holding a huge share of that while participants who give up their individual right to sue will get checks for a pittance.

It is funny how one must be careful how you word things, but saying something helps this or that versus saying our customers say that "...whatever", is the difference between making claims the FDA or some greedy attorneys (or agencies) can charge and/or sue you for not being substantiated by the proper double blind studies by people with the correct letters after their names, peer reviewed, and just reporting the testimonials of happy customers.

There are little disclaimers on the back of vitamin bottles, even for ones we know to be essential to prevent diseases likel rickets ans scurvy, which state these are supplements, ought to see your doctor, etc. in order to avoid just those sort of things.  So, it isn't so much what you say as how you say it.

As for going to court against well funded firms half a country away, people who might be well versed in the fine are of expensing their bill into multiples of their charged hourly or day rates, the time honored method is to admit no guilt, have them sign an NDA, and settle far away from courts which are known for the sort of ridiculous jackpot rulings that encourage the very sort of legal predation we're discussing, while rewriting ad copy to avoid making any direct claims of medical benefits. Funny how you can claim "you'll get the best sleep of your life", but you can't say back or neck pain will go away, because the latter can be construed as a claim of "medical benefit".

They didn't give the litigants millions, the attorneys ate most of that $million in contingency fees and expenses. But anyone who is an avowed Christian being sued in California courts better cut their losses and get out, or they'll likely end up baking cakes or facing a business killing judgement to be appealed (Lawyers 2, litigants 0)  if the case goes to trial.
Court is a crapshoot, and right and wrong really don't matter there.
An awful lot gets settled just to get it out of the way and make costs known, rather than take the chance of going to trial.
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So, a bit short of the claimed,

And still irrelevant to this conversion of his factory to producing respirator masks ... the supposed topic of this thread.

@PeteS in CA

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Thing to remember is that in exchange for the settlement, MyPillow did not admit guilt or liability.  This is standard in settlements like this.   So technically for legal purposes, the claims against the company are unproven.   Thus you can say that Mr. Lidell and his company committed fraud and/or engaged in false or misleading advertising, but under the law you would be wrong.