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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2275 on: May 17, 2020, 10:05:42 pm »
For noting this, I am called paranoid.  Go figger. :shrug:


Dope smokers are paranoid. You must be one of those weed puffin hippies too.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2276 on: May 17, 2020, 10:25:21 pm »
Dope smokers are paranoid. You must be one of those weed puffin hippies too.

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That must be it.  Flashbacks from the 70's.

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« Reply #2277 on: May 17, 2020, 10:27:16 pm »
Oh lucky me. I have many respirators... Pretty good ones. I have no idea where they are... But I don't own own of those silly ass masks. And I won't wear one.

And I won't have to.

I've been half tempted just break out my M40 protective mask just to freak people out.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2278 on: May 17, 2020, 10:28:42 pm »
Oh lucky me. I have many respirators... Pretty good ones. I have no idea where they are... But I don't own own of those silly ass masks. And I won't wear one.

And I won't have to.

I just found my kid's old paintball mask.  Maybe I should wear that to the Home Despot.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2279 on: May 17, 2020, 10:30:59 pm »
I've been half tempted just break out my M40 protective mask just to freak people out.

LOL!

A trailer hitch with a couple tanks towed around behind you as you're walking along might be a nice touch...  :laugh:

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« Reply #2280 on: May 17, 2020, 10:39:19 pm »
LOL!

A trailer hitch with a couple tanks towed around behind you as you're walking along might be a nice touch...  :laugh:

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« Reply #2281 on: May 17, 2020, 10:40:02 pm »
I just found my kid's old paintball mask.  Maybe I should wear that to the Home Despot.

It all depends, is their paint all over it or is it fairly clean?   happy77    I've seen masks with smiley 'joker faces' and camouflage; anything goes.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2282 on: May 17, 2020, 10:51:28 pm »
It all depends, is their paint all over it or is it fairly clean?   happy77    I've seen masks with smiley 'joker faces' and camouflage; anything goes.

It's clean, had not been hit with a ball.  It looks like a Darth Vader mask with eyes you can see through.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2283 on: May 17, 2020, 11:19:51 pm »
Dope smokers are paranoid. You must be one of those weed puffin hippies too.

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« Reply #2284 on: May 17, 2020, 11:22:52 pm »
In many states, it is illegal to enter a store with a mask on.
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« Reply #2285 on: May 17, 2020, 11:25:06 pm »
It's clean, had not been hit with a ball.  It looks like a Darth Vader mask with eyes you can see through.

Go for it!  It matches your "secret agent man" persona.  888blackhat
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2286 on: May 17, 2020, 11:32:47 pm »
I've been half tempted just break out my M40 protective mask just to freak people out.
That won't freak anyone out. People are wearing Spiderman, Batman, KKK, Cat, masks among others. People are wearing all kinds of weird crap out there. I'm not sure all of them know it is a joke. They just heard 'wear a mask', so they wore a mask.



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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2287 on: May 17, 2020, 11:41:05 pm »
I've been half tempted just break out my M40 protective mask just to freak people out.
I have an old WWII/Korea era gas mask, but I have full face respirator and tyveks, and nitrile gauntlets, too...

Decisions, decisions...

Correction, it's an M17A2 model, after 1959.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2288 on: May 17, 2020, 11:45:10 pm »
I've been half tempted just break out my M40 protective mask just to freak people out.

@txradioguy

People will try to either buy it from you,or shame you out of it by telling you they need it for a child.
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« Reply #2289 on: May 18, 2020, 02:13:38 am »
@roamer_1

    I passed that point of Paranoid back in the 70's (on pot).  With my extensive experience I have now perfected that into '"I'm OK, It's YOU that is f*cked Up!.

LOL! And you may be right...  :beer:

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« Reply #2290 on: May 18, 2020, 03:32:03 am »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2292 on: May 18, 2020, 02:39:16 pm »
Coronavirus cases have yet to spike in US areas reopening, HHS head says

We should find out after two weeks whether or not there's a spike.

Retail here opened last week, so in another week, we'll find out if there are any significant additional cases.

Yesterday's numbers in Ohio were very promising....... 384 additional cases from Saturday to Sunday (confirmed), and only 15 additional confirmed deaths (some of the lowest numbers since early April).

Since deaths are a lagging indicator, it will probably take longer to assess if opening up has affected things, but the number of cases should show up in the next week.  We've had patio dining in restaurants open up already, and indoor eating will come later this week.  (The bars are where the trouble will probably be...... social distancing while drunk is not likely).

I'll be keeping track of the numbers (confirmed, not the additional CDC numbers) and report back as to whether or not we've had a spike here.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2293 on: May 18, 2020, 03:45:04 pm »
Coronavirus cases have yet to spike in US areas reopening, HHS head says

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WTH?????

HOW is he in a position to make that claim,when it can ONLY be made a couple of weeks after the peak infection level has passed,and is determined to have passed by the lower number of new cases?

Whoever misspoke THAT brain fart needs to be fired.
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« Reply #2294 on: May 18, 2020, 04:02:34 pm »
@jmyrlefuller

WTH?????

HOW is he in a position to make that claim,when it can ONLY be made a couple of weeks after the peak infection level has passed,and is determined to have passed by the lower number of new cases?

Whoever misspoke THAT brain fart needs to be fired.

We started opening the last week of April @sneakypete ... with no bump in incidents whatsoever. But then, we hardly had it here anyhow.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2295 on: May 18, 2020, 05:15:48 pm »
05-18-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  6.482 ↑  2.227 ↓
United States  3.807 ↑  4.410 ↓
China 16.881 ↓  1.060 -

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 750,755
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 29.1 %  ↓
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 35.1 %  ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Global recovery rates (reported) are over twice US rates.  Recoveries continue to go unreported.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2296 on: May 18, 2020, 05:31:34 pm »
@jmyrlefuller

WTH?????

HOW is he in a position to make that claim,when it can ONLY be made a couple of weeks after the peak infection level has passed,and is determined to have passed by the lower number of new cases?

Whoever misspoke THAT brain fart needs to be fired.
Consider, though: the average incubation period is about 5½ days, and testing has improved, both in speed and availability, dramatically since the beginning of the outbreak. Now instead of 2-3 weeks from the date of infection, it's closer to 7-10 days on average before the positive test shows up—and that's even before contact tracing catches any asymptomatic carriers in a positive case's inner circle. So it's likely that any substantial increase would start showing up by now.

(He also said "yet.")
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« Reply #2297 on: May 18, 2020, 05:44:25 pm »
Consider, though: the average incubation period is about 5½ days, and testing has improved, both in speed and availability, dramatically since the beginning of the outbreak. Now instead of 2-3 weeks from the date of infection, it's closer to 7-10 days on average before the positive test shows up—and that's even before contact tracing catches any asymptomatic carriers in a positive case's inner circle. So it's likely that any substantial increase would start showing up by now.

(He also said "yet.")

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thanks.

 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2298 on: May 18, 2020, 08:12:14 pm »
Avoiding Risks During Reopening

Fascinating study of how the Coronavirus has spread (factually) and how to avoid the risks of being in the same situation.  Remembering that many, many people are asymptomatic (and in these particular cases were not showing any signs of the disease), it's good to know what situations to avoid, and which are less risky.

For example, being in an enclosed indoor space (even with social distancing) is much riskier than being together outside.

The article lists some risky situations based on where the disease actually spread.  Especially interesting to me was the tragic choir rehearsal in Washington, where precautions were taken to keep people safe, yet 45 of 60 people in the choir got sick and two died....

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Choir: The community choir in Washington State. Even though people were aware of the virus and took steps to minimize transfer; e.g. they avoided the usual handshakes and hugs hello, people also brought their own music to avoid sharing, and socially distanced themselves during practice. They even went to the lengths to tell choir members prior to practice that anyone experiencing symptoms should stay home.  A single asymptomatic carrier infected most of the people in attendance. The choir sang for 2 1/2 hours, inside an enclosed rehearsal hall which was roughly the size of a volleyball court.

Singing, to a greater degree than talking, aerosolizes respiratory droplets extraordinarily well. Deep-breathing while singing facilitated those respiratory droplets getting deep into the lungs. Two and half hours of exposure ensured that people were exposed to enough virus over a long enough period of time for infection to take place. Over a period of 4 days, 45 of the 60 choir members developed symptoms, 2 died. The youngest infected was 31, but they averaged 67 years old. (corrected link)

Good reason for churches NOT to have choir practice.  The infected person was asymptomatic and precautions were taken and yet.....



The restaurant example from China is particularly revealing because some people near the (asymptomatic) infected person did not get sick because of the air flow, but many others did.... (diagram in article)

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Restaurants: Some really great shoe-leather epidemiology demonstrated clearly the effect of a single asymptomatic carrier in a restaurant environment (see below). The infected person (A1) sat at a table and had dinner with 9 friends. Dinner took about 1 to 1.5 hours. During this meal, the asymptomatic carrier released low-levels of virus into the air from their breathing. Airflow (from the restaurant's various airflow vents) was from right to left. Approximately 50% of the people at the infected person's table became sick over the next 7 days. 75% of the people on the adjacent downwind table became infected. And even 2 of the 7 people on the upwind table were infected (believed to happen by turbulent airflow). No one at tables E or F became infected, they were out of the main airflow from the air conditioner on the right to the exhaust fan on the left of the room. (Ref)

It's critical that we continue to open up the economy, but it's also important that we understand how to keep as safe as possible.

For those interested, it's a good read.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2299 on: May 18, 2020, 08:20:37 pm »
Avoiding Risks During Reopening

Fascinating study of how the Coronavirus has spread (factually) and how to avoid the risks of being in the same situation.  Remembering that many, many people are asymptomatic (and in these particular cases were not showing any signs of the disease), it's good to know what situations to avoid, and which are less risky.

For example, being in an enclosed indoor space (even with social distancing) is much riskier than being together outside.

The article lists some risky situations based on where the disease actually spread.  Especially interesting to me was the tragic choir rehearsal in Washington, where precautions were taken to keep people safe, yet 45 of 60 people in the choir got sick and two died....

Good reason for churches NOT to have choir practice.  The infected person was asymptomatic and precautions were taken and yet.....



The restaurant example from China is particularly revealing because some people near the (asymptomatic) infected person did not get sick because of the air flow, but many others did.... (diagram in article)

It's critical that we continue to open up the economy, but it's also important that we understand how to keep as safe as possible.

For those interested, it's a good read.

That's very interesting News we can Use!  Thanks!   :beer:
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