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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #325 on: March 30, 2020, 09:41:44 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 09:37:58 pm
Oh, c'mon, Joe.  You're better than that.

The statistics are white noise.  Not the people.  Yikes.   **nononono*

The point is, and the truth is, there is no "perspective" on the numbers until they are all in, so your pointing out the people die in other ways is not relevant.  We all KNOW that.  This thread is for news about the pandemic, not a defense of your minimizing its importance or the tragedy of it.
I am minimizing neither the people, the pandemic, nor the tragedy.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #326 on: March 30, 2020, 09:44:39 pm »
A moment of levity, with a purpose.


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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #327 on: March 30, 2020, 09:44:56 pm »
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I am minimizing neither the people, the pandemic, nor the tragedy.

If that makes you feel better....

Your post to me was hideous.  You KNOW better.  You ARE better.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #328 on: March 30, 2020, 09:56:18 pm »
After just 25 minutes of listing all the incredible things our government and private business have been doing since yesterday, Seema Verma the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services sends her condolences to the families of the dead.  President Trump should be doing that, not because this is all his fault, but because it would hopefully mean something to the grieving.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #329 on: March 30, 2020, 09:57:32 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 09:44:56 pm
If that makes you feel better....

Your post to me was hideous.  You KNOW better.  You ARE better.

@Smokin Joe @musiclady

You are both good friends of mine.  Nobody meant to be cruel, there are a lot of frayed nerves right now....
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #330 on: March 30, 2020, 09:59:48 pm »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #331 on: March 30, 2020, 10:00:45 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 09:57:32 pm
@Smokin Joe @musiclady

You are both good friends of mine.  Nobody meant to be cruel, there are a lot of frayed nerves right now....

I didn't mean to be, and wasn't cruel.

Thanks for your efforts to make peace, Cyber.  I'm only going to post news about the pandemic here, nothing more.

Sorry that I did something else.  I'll let it go, and probably put Joe on temporary Ignore.  He's a good guy, and I pray didn't mean what he said.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #332 on: March 30, 2020, 10:03:08 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 09:57:32 pm
@Smokin Joe @musiclady

You are both good friends of mine.  Nobody meant to be cruel, there are a lot of frayed nerves right now....
Unlike lonely Congressman Massie, I'll second that.  Your both good people and usually very thoughtful posters.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #333 on: March 30, 2020, 10:05:06 pm »

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World Health Organization insists coronavirus not an airborne disease as experts raise possibility
by Jerry Dunleavy   | March 30, 2020 05:44 PM

The World Health Organization doubled down on its claim that the COVID-19 virus is not transmittable by air even as some experts suggest it is possible and as Western officials recommend that doctors and nurses take precautions.

“FACT: #COVID19 is NOT airborne,” WHO declared in a Saturday fact-check tweet. "The #coronavirus is mainly transmitted through droplets generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or speaks.”

But a study in the United States suggests otherwise. Carried out by more than a dozen health experts working with the National Institute for Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratories, the study released this month found "aerosol … transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is plausible, since the virus can remain viable and infectious in aerosols for hours.”

Read more at:  https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/world-health-organization-insists-coronavirus-not-an-airborne-disease-as-experts-raise-possibility

So, up-to-date news, this is actually pretty important AND, I'm going to think it can be airborne. I may be wrong, I'm no scientist or doctor.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #334 on: March 30, 2020, 10:06:11 pm »
Cyber wrote:
"Meanwhile, in related news, the Stock Market did not respond in the manner I expected.  I expected a thousand-point drop in the Blue Chips this morning because of this announcement, but it is, in fact, up over 400."

My guess is that the market rose today because of the FDA's endorsement of the anti-malaria drug for doctors to use as they determine necessary.

The exploding numbers of infected (in NYC and elsewhere) will probably push the market back down as the week progresses.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #335 on: March 30, 2020, 10:10:13 pm »
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“FACT: #COVID19 is NOT airborne,” WHO declared in a Saturday fact-check tweet. "The #coronavirus is mainly transmitted through droplets generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or speaks.”
So, up-to-date news, this is actually pretty important AND, I'm going to think it can be airborne. I may be wrong, I'm no scientist or doctor.

That quote from the article is silly.  No, the virus isn't "airborne," but it's the droplets carrying the virus that are airborne.  There's no functional difference.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #336 on: March 30, 2020, 10:17:07 pm »
After getting angry at an Acosta question President Trump says "I could cause panic." 

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That conference could have gone better. Still the policy is the policy, and the policy is sound.  Get some sleep Mr. President.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #337 on: March 30, 2020, 10:29:06 pm »
I heard elsewhere the WHO sucked, and gave out false info like masks don't help.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #338 on: March 30, 2020, 10:29:29 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on March 30, 2020, 10:17:07 pm
After getting angry at an Acosta question President Trump says "I could cause panic." 

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That conference could have gone better. Still the policy is the policy, and the policy is sound.  Get some sleep Mr. President.

I noticed this presser was outside.  I think the President will be steering away from pressers in the press room, to avoid giving reporters TV face time.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #339 on: March 30, 2020, 10:30:44 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on March 30, 2020, 10:29:06 pm
I heard elsewhere the WHO sucked, and gave out false info like masks don't help.

There's a list of reasons why WHO sucks, not the least of which is their persistent refusal to recognize Taiwan's observations early in the crisis.  That probably cost thousands of lives, world wide.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #340 on: March 30, 2020, 10:51:32 pm »
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #341 on: March 30, 2020, 10:52:11 pm »
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"Casino mogul Sheldon Adelson has procured approximately two million face masks to counter the shortage of the much-needed protective gear at hospitals across the United States"https://t.co/4e242kcAw9— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) March 30, 2020
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #342 on: March 30, 2020, 10:54:36 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 10:29:29 pm
I noticed this presser was outside.  I think the President will be steering away from pressers in the press room, to avoid giving reporters TV face time.

Great idea ... but unfortunately they still get face time when they ask a question.  I think it's the beautiful 70 degree day we have here (albeit quite windy)  happy77

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #343 on: March 30, 2020, 11:03:25 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 30, 2020, 10:54:36 pm
Great idea ... but unfortunately they still get face time when they ask a question.  I think it's the beautiful 70 degree day we have here (albeit quite windy)  happy77

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Correction:  They get "voice time," not "face time."  The successful star of The Apprentice knows this instinctively.  The image is the medium, and in this medium, the reporters are disembodied voices.  This is as it should be, as a reminder to all Freshman J-School students:  "Report the news, don't BE the news."  It's a lesson that gets forgotten the moment they pick up the sheepskin. 

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #344 on: March 30, 2020, 11:05:07 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 11:03:25 pm
Correction:  They get "voice time," not "face time."  The successful star of The Apprentice knows this instinctively.  The image is the medium, and in this medium, the reporters are disembodied voices.  This is as it should be, as a reminder to all Freshman J-School students:  "Report the news, don't BE the news."  It's a lesson that gets forgotten the moment they pick up the sheepskin. 

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #345 on: March 30, 2020, 11:07:12 pm »
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Charlie Kirk
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Wow:

CBS News was caught airing footage from an Italian hospital, claiming it was in New York City

Italian hospitals failed the stress test of this virus

They want you to think this happened here

I wonder why?

12:59 PM · Mar 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

(Two unbelievable) Videos at link: 

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1244670556110110729
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #346 on: March 30, 2020, 11:16:22 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 30, 2020, 11:07:12 pm

Not only is CBS dishonest, they think so little of their viewers, that they didn't think they would get caught.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #347 on: March 30, 2020, 11:16:49 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on March 30, 2020, 11:07:12 pm


This needs to go viral.  CBS? Figured they would have learned their lesson after the Dan Rather fiasco.

I got it forwarded to about 25 of my good contacts.  I challenge everyone else to do the same.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #348 on: March 30, 2020, 11:19:58 pm »
Quote from: Fishrrman on March 30, 2020, 10:06:11 pm
Cyber wrote:
"Meanwhile, in related news, the Stock Market did not respond in the manner I expected.  I expected a thousand-point drop in the Blue Chips this morning because of this announcement, but it is, in fact, up over 400."

My guess is that the market rose today because of the FDA's endorsement of the anti-malaria drug for doctors to use as they determine necessary.

The exploding numbers of infected (in NYC and elsewhere) will probably push the market back down as the week progresses.
But so far, the numbers of new cases in New York is actually down a hair, which is to be expected given that testing from after the lockdown orders is starting to work its way into the system.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #349 on: March 30, 2020, 11:20:35 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on March 30, 2020, 11:16:22 pm
Not only is CBS dishonest, they think so little of their viewers, that they didn't think they would get caught.

Who knows...... this may just be the tip of the iceberg.  No telling how much distortion and lying is being perpetuated by the MSM.
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