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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3825 on: December 09, 2020, 07:16:38 pm »
Physician Warns — Frail and elderly might die from vaccine…

https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_f57704265a0db9708053b6eb5320dd44

And that (elderly) was priority 1 in the UK.... 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3826 on: December 09, 2020, 07:25:55 pm »
Bill Gates - The Syringes Have Trackers

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3827 on: December 09, 2020, 10:16:36 pm »
Physician Warns — Frail and elderly might die from vaccine…

https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_f57704265a0db9708053b6eb5320dd44
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So  what? They might also die from the excitement of watching "Dick Van Dyke Show" reruns.

Dying is what old people do second-best.

Whining is what they do best.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3828 on: December 10, 2020, 12:28:24 am »
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So  what? They might also die from the excitement of watching "Dick Van Dyke Show" reruns.

Yeah, the Walnut episode was pretty wild....
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3829 on: December 10, 2020, 03:32:19 am »
12-08-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   30.223 ↑    1.384 ↓
United States   30.928 ↑    1.712 -

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +778.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,505,633.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3830 on: December 10, 2020, 03:32:31 am »
12-09-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   30.293 ↑    1.381 ↓
United States   30.973 ↑    1.716 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, OH, AZ, & PA.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +749.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,573,476.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3831 on: December 10, 2020, 03:49:44 am »
12-10-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   30.361 ↑    1.379 ↓
United States   31.097 ↑    1.715 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, NY, OH, & FL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +752.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,617,504.


US Recoveries-to-Deaths ratio climbs above 31.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3832 on: December 10, 2020, 04:07:48 am »
Fatality rates by State:  (total deaths / total cases)


     Alaska     0.39%
     Utah     0.44%
     Wyoming     0.78%
     Oklahoma     0.87%
     Nebraska     0.89%
     Wisconsin     0.92%
     Idaho     0.94%
     Kentucky     1.01%
     Kansas     1.06%
     Montana     1.09%
     Minnesota     1.14%
     Iowa     1.21%
     Tennessee     1.22%
     North Dakota     1.25%
     Oregon     1.25%
     South Dakota     1.30%
     Colorado     1.33%
     Missouri     1.35%
     Nevada     1.35%
     North Carolina     1.37%
     Ohio     1.38%
     California     1.40%
     Hawaii     1.41%
     Alabama     1.42%
     West Virginia     1.54%
     Washington     1.54%
     Arkansas     1.57%
     Virginia     1.60%
     New Mexico     1.61%
     Vermont     1.62%
     Indiana     1.63%
     Texas     1.70%
     Maine     1.70%
     Illinois     1.79%
     Florida     1.79%
     Arizona     1.85%
     USA Total     1.87%
     Delaware     1.89%
     Georgia     1.91%
     South Carolina     1.92%
     New Hampshire     2.06%
     Rhode Island     2.17%
     Maryland     2.22%
     Mississippi     2.36%
     Michigan     2.38%
     Louisiana     2.58%
     Pennsylvania     2.63%
     District Of Columbia     2.95%
     Connecticut     3.76%
     Massachusetts     4.14%
     New Jersey     4.50%
     New York     4.56%
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3833 on: December 10, 2020, 05:03:58 pm »
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COVID was the necessary excuse to push for mail-in ballots.

It's the excuse for lockdowns that bankrupt the middle class.

It's the excuse for vaccines that help track & trace people.

Don't be fooled.


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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3834 on: December 10, 2020, 11:17:32 pm »
Hmmm broadcasting to the world via a television story that UPS trucks will be delivering the Covid delivery kits in their big easy to recognize brown trucks...what could possibly go wrong?   :pondering:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3835 on: December 11, 2020, 02:51:14 pm »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3836 on: December 11, 2020, 05:12:55 pm »


Speaking of, has anyone here seen the movie I, Tonya?  I quite enjoyed it.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3837 on: December 11, 2020, 08:45:02 pm »
'A slap in the face': Yuma hospital fires ER doctor for talking about COVID-19 in Arizona

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Jamie Landers, Arizona Republic 7 hrs ago

Dr. Cleavon Gilman, a well-known emergency-medicine physician, has been asked not to return to his work at Yuma Regional Medical Center for his social media posts about the severity of the COVID-19 pandemic in Arizona, according to him and his staffing agency.
a man wearing a hat: Dr. Cleavon Gilman works at Yuma Regional Medical Center and said he was told on Nov. 22 no hospital in the state was accepting transfer ICU patients. © Courtesy Dr. Cleavon Gilman Dr. Cleavon Gilman works at Yuma Regional Medical Center and said he was told on Nov. 22 no hospital in the state was accepting transfer ICU patients.

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It started on Nov. 22 when Gilman tweeted "Just got to work and was notified there are no more ICU beds in the state of Arizona."

"What happened to the 175 beds??? We likely don’t have nursing to staff them," he added. The Arizona Department of Health Services at the time reported that 90% of ICU beds were in use.

The hospital he was working in Yuma removed 175 beds from the ICU, so they could claim "We're at our capacity!  Any more patients and they're going to all DIE!!!"   ***hair on fire

This is going on all over the state!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3838 on: December 11, 2020, 09:22:15 pm »
'A slap in the face': Yuma hospital fires ER doctor for talking about COVID-19 in Arizona

The hospital he was working in Yuma removed 175 beds from the ICU, so they could claim "We're at our capacity!  Any more patients and they're going to all DIE!!!"   ***hair on fire

This is going on all over the state!

It's going on all over the country.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3839 on: December 11, 2020, 09:28:30 pm »
It's going on all over the country.

Now that the data skewing of the cases and death numbers have run their course, it's time to skew new sets of numbers, now it's "Hospital Capacity."  Want a higher percentage of ICU capacity?  Reduce the number of hospital beds.  175 is a pretty significant number for that hospital. 

I wonder where all the Striker Beds are piled up?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3840 on: December 11, 2020, 10:58:15 pm »
Now that the data skewing of the cases and death numbers have run their course, it's time to skew new sets of numbers, now it's "Hospital Capacity."  Want a higher percentage of ICU capacity?  Reduce the number of hospital beds.  175 is a pretty significant number for that hospital. 

I wonder where all the Striker Beds are piled up?

Basement storage...near the oxygen plant.  Either that or they have just shut down the wings where those beds are at.
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3843 on: December 12, 2020, 04:37:22 pm »
I don’t know if this has been posted, but it’s an interesting chart to figure out where you might be in line for the vaccine in your state and in the country.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?fbclid=IwAR3ox9SuUbnOdOylY1GW5nTxN7SepsxcGUvvxhzW2l14NMMOzm1sKOSoTJ0
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3844 on: December 12, 2020, 04:40:39 pm »
I don’t know if this has been posted, but it’s an interesting chart to figure out where you might be in line for the vaccine in your state and in the country.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?fbclid=IwAR3ox9SuUbnOdOylY1GW5nTxN7SepsxcGUvvxhzW2l14NMMOzm1sKOSoTJ0

That link takes me to a posting page.   :shrug:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3845 on: December 12, 2020, 04:43:40 pm »
That link takes me to a posting page.   :shrug:

Fixed. Thanks, that’s what I get for having multiple windows open.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3846 on: December 12, 2020, 04:59:15 pm »
Fixed. Thanks, that’s what I get for having multiple windows open.

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It's the NYT, but interesting nevertheless. 333cleo 333cleo
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3847 on: December 12, 2020, 05:14:58 pm »
It's the NYT, but interesting nevertheless. 333cleo 333cleo
I never really cared for the Times' editorial stuff but their interactive content is among the best in the business.

As I suspected, I'll be one of the last to become eligible—which is nice because then I can sit back and watch the rollout to see any side effects develop before I make my decision. As of now, I'm open to it but that could change. But then again, herd immunity might be achieved before I even get to that point, so there's that.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3848 on: December 12, 2020, 06:19:11 pm »
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If you are older or have older family members or friends, please read this before insisting these older people take the vaccine.  (Don't know if you have heard this other one: if you have food allergies or allergy to some meds, don't get it. This is for all age people.)  Back to the elderly:

"Out of a panel of 14 CDC vaccine advisers, a lone doctor said no."
The doctor is Dr. Helen "Keipp" Talbot, of Vanderbilt University.

(I posted some of this article below.)  Dr. Talbot voted no because there is no study of what happens when older people take it.  Remember, nursing homes will be first to get it along with nursing staff.
 
"The vote to recommend long-term care residents be among the first to receive Covid-19 vaccinations was not unanimous.  Out of a panel of 14 CDC vaccine advisers, a lone doctor said no."

"Odd woman out, I guess," Dr. Helen "Keipp" Talbot, of Vanderbilt University, told her colleagues. "I still struggle with this. This was not an easy vote."

"Talbot was worried about whether the vaccine would even work in such frail, vulnerable patients. Even more, she worried about how it might look if the vaccine failed in that group, or how it would affect public perception if residents died soon after getting the vaccine."

"I have spent my career studying vaccines in older adults. And we have traditionally tried a vaccine in a young healthy population and then hoped it works in our frail older adults," she told the committee ahead of her vote. "And so we enter this realm of 'we hope it works, and we hope it's safe,' and that concerns me on many levels."

Article also says: "On the other hand, these are the people worst hit by the pandemic. They make up 40% of all deaths so far."

https://lite.cnn.com/en/article/h_f57704265a0db9708053b6eb5320dd44



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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3849 on: December 12, 2020, 06:47:37 pm »
It's the NYT, but interesting nevertheless. 333cleo 333cleo
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I have a serious question (not kidding),
Why do you say "It's the NYT..."
I see that here a lot and don't get it.  If a news story presents facts, why does it matter where it comes from?  It seems to me when someone says that, it is a way to dismiss the information - an easy "cop-out", as in, "It's CNN, so they are lying and I don't even need to read it."  Facts are facts no matter where they come from.