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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1725 on: April 27, 2020, 11:17:47 pm »
I posted this tweet on another thread but it seems appropriate here:

Has it occurred to this tweeting person that the reason that so few people have died may well be that we DID shut down when we did?  :shrug:

With the red states opening up their economies (as they are), the blue states will most likely follow and the economy will recover.  It hasn't been "killed."

And I'm glad that with over 3 million infected in the world that so few Americans have died.

Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1726 on: April 27, 2020, 11:29:18 pm »
Ya think?  Dry air.  Cool temperature.  What's there for a virus not to like?
Don't forget recirculation....and house wide distribution.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1727 on: April 27, 2020, 11:33:11 pm »
I'm not sure what method hospitals use (or even if they do) but perhaps businesses should consider UV germicidal lights in their HVAC?

A coil sterilization UV light runs 24/7 and is the most common type of HVAC UV light. It is also the most reasonably priced. In Air Sterilization, a complete UV light unit is installed that sterilizes moving air. The UV light unit is installed in the return air duct and cycles on with the air handler blower.

UV light destroy microbes in air conditioners. The lights are installed in your ductwork or near the AC coil, and they destroy microbes like mold, bacteria, fungi, mildew, mold spores and viruses in the line-of-sight of the UV bulb. ... Maintenance is also easy: Just change the bulb when it burns out.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1728 on: April 27, 2020, 11:33:27 pm »
Ya think?  Dry air.  Cool temperature.  What's there for a virus not to like?

And, most of all,  if there are no UV lights in return air ducts whatever gets picked up in one part of the building is soon spread throughout the entire building.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1729 on: April 27, 2020, 11:34:25 pm »
Hot humid air saturated with UV rays from the sun cannot.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1730 on: April 27, 2020, 11:36:42 pm »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1731 on: April 27, 2020, 11:36:48 pm »
Has it occurred to this tweeting person that the reason that so few people have died may well be that we DID shut down when we did?  :shrug:

With the red states opening up their economies (as they are), the blue states will most likely follow and the economy will recover.  It hasn't been "killed."

And I'm glad that with over 3 million infected in the world that so few Americans have died.
I wish I had enough faith in that.

I live near the NY-PA border. Tom Wolf said he was going to begin the process of reopening PA on May 8, but Cuomo—even though he said he was going to coordinate this with the neighboring states—isn't budging from May 15 and is also dropping hints he might even stretch that further in harder-hit regions (he also noted that construction and manufacturing are the only businesses he'll open on the first step and won't consider any others until May 29). Of course, I happen to live in a region that, despite a number of active cases I can count on my fingers, is tethered to Buffalo, which is still struggling to rein this virus in. (Unlike the state as a whole, there's been no appreciable decline in hospitalizations there.)

Part of it is that as a musician/entertainer of some repute around here who relies on performing as a substantial portion of my meager income, these lockdowns have been especially hard on me. I was very lucky that I ended up winning a prize in a talent competition just a few days before everything started getting canceled. But with the "attractive nuisances" prohibition Cuomo's proposing, I might not have any more chances for a long while other than in front of a webcam.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1732 on: April 27, 2020, 11:36:49 pm »
Me neither... But then I suppose there are folks down south who have never been in a heated house  :whistle: :shrug:

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That's where you are wrong. There are people in the south who have never been in a house that WASN'T heated.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1733 on: April 27, 2020, 11:37:43 pm »
S'alright, y'all...

More for me...  :beer: :seeya:


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Dear God,but those girls can SING!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1734 on: April 27, 2020, 11:47:48 pm »
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Dear God,but those girls can SING!

That's right... But that ain't the point... If it gets hot enough for air conditioning, I am on the water, not in a danged ol house.

Be it a tube with a cooler tied on down a lazy river, kayaking or canoeing down white water (with a cooler attached somewhere), maybe a john boat fishin for bass back in the sloughs and pot holes (cooler... see the pattern?), on a pontoon as a card carrying member of the Redneck Yacht Club, or even sitting on a dock fishin for rainbow down on the Swan River... Air conditioning sure as hell ain't on my mind.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1735 on: April 27, 2020, 11:52:42 pm »
@roamer_1

That's where you are wrong. There are people in the south who have never been in a house that WASN'T heated.

Well, yeah, but I mean with a furnace, not with the sun.  :laugh:
Though I have heard of Texans turning on the heat when it hits sixty...  :whistle:

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1736 on: April 27, 2020, 11:56:14 pm »
I have never lived in an air conditioned house.

I've lived in a climate-controlled house.  Whatever the climate was outside, that's what the climate was inside.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1737 on: April 28, 2020, 12:00:54 am »
Well, yeah, but I mean with a furnace, not with the sun.  :laugh:
Though I have heard of Texans turning on the heat when it hits sixty...  :whistle:
I have seen it.

Then in the summertime, they turn the A/C to 55. :shrug:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1738 on: April 28, 2020, 12:06:03 am »
I have seen it.

Then in the summertime, they turn the A/C to 55. :shrug:

Go figger...  :shrug:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1739 on: April 28, 2020, 12:07:13 am »
Hurray!!!  Finally!!!! They just announced that they are re-opening the parks!!!  Playgrounds in the park will remain closed, but bicycle paths and walking trails will be open!!!  I am doing a Happy Dance and can't wait to go to one of the parks tomorrow!!!  The neighborhood beach and pools still remain closed.  Kayaking/canoeing allowed too.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1740 on: April 28, 2020, 12:14:18 am »
Hurray!!!  Finally!!!! They just announced that they are re-opening the parks!!!  Playgrounds in the park will remain closed, but bicycle paths and walking trails will be open!!!  I am doing a Happy Dance and can't wait to go to one of the parks tomorrow!!!  The neighborhood beach and pools still remain closed.  Kayaking/canoeing allowed too.

Ten miles in any direction and I am in one big ol park. They closed down the parking and pavilions and folks just laughed at em and went anyway...

Kinda like anywhere else that stayed open.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1741 on: April 28, 2020, 12:54:33 am »
Has it occurred to this tweeting person that the reason that so few people have died may well be that we DID shut down when we did?  :shrug:

With the red states opening up their economies (as they are), the blue states will most likely follow and the economy will recover.  It hasn't been "killed."

And I'm glad that with over 3 million infected in the world that so few Americans have died.

Great Point @musiclady

I believe President Trump has saved tens of thousands of lives by his actions and leadership, but because of my admitted TDS I don't think my opinion is acceptable to some hardcore Trumpers.  Hopefully my gratitude for the American people following his advice isn't misconstrued as support for China somehow.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1742 on: April 28, 2020, 04:19:58 am »
04-28-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  4.701 ↑  2.792 ↓
United States  2.447 ↑  7.269 ↓
China 16.722 ↑  1.082 ↑

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 383,639
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 24.0 %  ↑
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 38.4 %  ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


US 14-day Recovery Deficit fell for the first time.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1743 on: April 28, 2020, 04:41:08 am »
I've lived in a climate-controlled house.  Whatever the climate was outside, that's what the climate was inside.

In SoCal w/o AC it gets hot inland. Like inland from Pasadena to Phoenix.

As a kid in North OC, my Mom knew just how to do it. Keep windows open all night, but close them and retain the cool air in all day also keeping all drapes closed. Also fans indoors.

Finally do like the cats and dogs, namely stay stilll, dress lightly.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1744 on: April 28, 2020, 04:57:49 am »
Just finished watching the President's Press Conference.  He was in control and measured.  One of his best performances.  He said a lot of stuff I wanted to hear.  Pence was good too.  I missed Dr Fauci.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1745 on: April 28, 2020, 12:34:12 pm »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1746 on: April 28, 2020, 12:36:38 pm »
That's right... But that ain't the point...

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1747 on: April 28, 2020, 12:37:27 pm »
Well, yeah, but I mean with a furnace, not with the sun.  :laugh:
Though I have heard of Texans turning on the heat when it hits sixty...  :whistle:

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1748 on: April 28, 2020, 12:59:39 pm »
I've lived in a climate-controlled house.  Whatever the climate was outside, that's what the climate was inside.

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The house I grew up in wasn't insulated,and built from wood that washed up on the beach after a storm. No sub-floor,just floor,with the planks all spaced with a small gap so they wouldn't swell. On top of this was a roll of linoleum.

The only heat in the house was a kerosene furnace sitting in the living room,and it was strictly radiant heat because my father was too cheap to run the fan. He was also too cheap to turn it up past the minimum setting that kept your breath from showing when talking. His POV was "If you are cold,put on more clothes or go to bed and wrap up in the quilts."

It wasn't unusual to wake up in the morning to get ready for school,and see the glass of water I left sitting on my dresser the night before frozen.

The floor so damn cold bare feet would cramp up when they touched it,and AFAIK,nobody had ever heard of "bedroom shoes". If you couldn't wear it outside,it didn't get bought.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #1749 on: April 28, 2020, 01:01:57 pm »
Hurray!!!  Finally!!!! They just announced that they are re-opening the parks!!!  Playgrounds in the park will remain closed, but bicycle paths and walking trails will be open!!!  I am doing a Happy Dance and can't wait to go to one of the parks tomorrow!!!  The neighborhood beach and pools still remain closed. Kayaking/canoeing allowed too.

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That's awful white of them.
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