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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #300 on: April 19, 2020, 07:20:22 pm »
Perhaps if the governor (with zero medical training) had not issued a statewide "no hydroxychoroquine-zinc treatments allowed" order, the death rate wouldn't be as high.

Cuomo did that?  I only knew about NV and MI Governors doing that....
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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #301 on: April 19, 2020, 07:24:26 pm »
Cuomo did that?  I only knew about NV and MI Governors doing that....

Cuomo's Executive Order

Hydroxychloroquine only allowed for FDA-approved purposes.  Fighting SARS-2 is not one of them.

Near the end:

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No pharmacist shall dispense hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved patient who has tested positive for COVID-19, with such test result documented as part of the prescription.  No other experimental or prophylactic use shall be permitted, and any permitted prescription is limited to one fourteen day prescription with no refills.
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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #302 on: April 19, 2020, 07:27:42 pm »
Perhaps if the governor (with zero medical training) had not issued a statewide "no hydroxychoroquine-zinc treatments allowed" order, the death rate wouldn't be as high.
Apparently, trials were being conducted as early as April 6, but the delay in using a regimen that is best used early likely cost lives, too.  And then there is always the arbitrary addition of "presumed" COVID-19 deaths. Did they shut it down again?
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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #303 on: April 19, 2020, 07:29:56 pm »
Cuomo's Executive Order

Hydroxychloroquine only allowed for FDA-approved purposes.  Fighting SARS-2 is not one of them.

That changed.  FDA approved that use of those meds, soon after the Governors of MI and NV issued orders barring their use.  But this is the first I had heard Cuomo was part of that bunch.
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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #304 on: April 19, 2020, 07:39:47 pm »
Cuomo did that?  I only knew about NV and MI Governors doing that....
"Politifact" said "no", https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/02/facebook-posts/chloroquine-not-banned-michigan-new-york-and-nevad/

but that doesn't account for these:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-york-county-executives-want-cuomo-to-lift-restrictions-on-hydroxychloroquine-treatment

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/5/rudy-giuliani-urges-andrew-cuomo-lift-hydroxychlor/

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/sean-hannity-gov-cuomo-stop-denying-new-yorkers-hydroxychloroquine

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-oz-cuomo-potential-coronavirus-treatment-restrictions

https://www.change.org/p/governer-andrew-cuomo-stop-the-ban-on-hydroxychloroquine-in-ny?original_footer_petition_id=19929430&algorithm=promoted&source_location=petition_footer&grid_position=7&pt=AVBldGl0aW9uANs4RQEAAAAAXoeUwUjYqSo5MzZkNmUzMQ%3D%3D

https://www.canyon-news.com/ny-governor-bans-possible-covid-19-cure/107073

https://nypost.com/2020/04/05/ny-coronavirus-patients-being-treated-with-anti-malarial-drug/

and then this, on April 7: https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2020/04/07/new-clinical-trials-underway-to-treat-coronavirus-patients   One such is studying Remdesivir (Isn't that the one the Chinese patented?) Stating the drug is involved in trials, and it will be "six or eight weeks" before results of the blind study (which utilizes placebos for some patients --IOW, no treatment) are known.

Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin are still being administered to the most critical patients outside of trials. (no mention of the Zinc Sulfate, essential to efficiently stopping viral replication).

(NOTE: by the time a patient is "most critical" the window of opportunity for stopping the virus from replicating has pretty much passed. Early treatment is the key to stopping the patient from becoming critical.)

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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #305 on: April 19, 2020, 07:43:17 pm »
Cuomo's Executive Order

Hydroxychloroquine only allowed for FDA-approved purposes.  Fighting SARS-2 is not one of them.

Near the end:
The initial regimen (used by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko) called for a five day course, not 14 days, of 200mg Hydroxychloroquine twice daily, 500mg Zithromax, once daily, and 220 mg Zinc Sulfate once daily.

But the bottom line is that the Democrats were trying their damnedest to deny treatment which had showed promise to the people they allegedly represent, even though those politicians don't know squat about medicine.
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Re: Calm Down, Breathe Through Your Nose - Covid19 NO BIG DEAL
« Reply #306 on: April 19, 2020, 08:38:39 pm »
the Democrats were trying their damnedest to deny treatment which had showed promise to the people they allegedly represent, even though those politicians don't know squat about medicine.

Heinrich Himmler didn't know squat about genetics either, but that didn't stop him.
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