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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2020, 12:53:13 am »
Unfortunate timing for an economic crisis.  He was probably going to lose if Biden got the nom, but now he can pretty much count on it.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2020, 02:30:24 am »
Unfortunate timing for an economic crisis.  He was probably going to lose if Biden got the nom, but now he can pretty much count on it.

Where in the world do you come up with Biden beating Trump. The downturn in the economy will be from the over reaction of the public and the dumping of oil on the world market by Saudi Arabia. Biden doesn't even know what State he is in most days. How does a senile old man beat Trump.
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2020, 04:18:42 am »
Where in the world do you come up with Biden beating Trump. The downturn in the economy will be from the over reaction of the public and the dumping of oil on the world market by Saudi Arabia. Biden doesn't even know what State he is in most days. How does a senile old man beat Trump.

Biden will win because most people associate a failing economy with the sitting President, whether or not he caused it.  The overreaction is going to cause unemployment rate to skyrocket. 

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2020, 04:57:34 am »
I am going to call this Election Year Virus
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2020, 02:26:20 pm »
Biden will win because most people associate a failing economy with the sitting President, whether or not he caused it.  The overreaction is going to cause unemployment rate to skyrocket.

At this point, we're far from having a failing economy. For example, jobless claims for early March dropped to 211,000...no sign of a Coronavirus impact. The markets are tanking over sheer panic, the drop having almost nothing to do with any economic fundamentals (with the exception of the Saudi's flooding the oil market). So if this panic should calm as summer comes on, the markets will almost certainly rally by late summer and we may be back in a bull market as we roll into election season.

More importantly, should the crisis continue...Joe Biden's rather obvious senility is going to become more and more concerning to middle America and educated suburban voters (who are the key swing element). Additionally, while the Bernie Bros will be at least moderately disaffected...virtually every conservative in the country would walk through fire, mud, virus and flood to get to a 2020 ballot box and vote for the President.

So such dire predictions are ridiculous at this point. The dynamics of the virus, and the dynamics of the politics around are far from clear at this point...my advice is just go into wait and see mode and stop with the idiotic "end is near" predictions about the election.
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2020, 02:31:56 pm »
The economy underminded probably both Bush presidencies. It is unfortunate but there is a lot of time before election day.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2020, 02:39:27 pm »
No secret I am not the biggest Trump fan, no secret I have disapproved of some of his handling of this coronavirus stuff... but only a fool would blame him for causing it. Still think he could of got on top of closing the borders faster and keeping the boat and China folks out. It probable would of leaked in anyway, but every week you hold it off and learn more how to combat it would of been best.

Not sure the self quarantine thing works with human  nature being what it is... people don't respect others... but saw that in China too (people spitting on elevator controls and soiling napkins and replacing them in the box)... not sure if I want the government to be a dictator in that regard... so not sure if I would of done a much better job myself in the long run.
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2020, 02:43:12 pm »
Biden will win because most people associate a failing economy with the sitting President, whether or not he caused it.  The overreaction is going to cause unemployment rate to skyrocket.

The economy will turn back up by mid June. People often confuse the market with the economy. Our economy is sound and once the panic driven relax things shift back into gear.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2020, 02:45:08 pm »
At this point, we're far from having a failing economy. For example, jobless claims for early March dropped to 211,000...no sign of a Coronavirus impact. The markets are tanking over sheer panic, the drop having almost nothing to do with any economic fundamentals (with the exception of the Saudi's flooding the oil market). So if this panic should calm as summer comes on, the markets will almost certainly rally by late summer and we may be back in a bull market as we roll into election season.

More importantly, should the crisis continue...Joe Biden's rather obvious senility is going to become more and more concerning to middle America and educated suburban voters (who are the key swing element). Additionally, while the Bernie Bros will be at least moderately disaffected...virtually every conservative in the country would walk through fire, mud, virus and flood to get to a 2020 ballot box and vote for the President.

So such dire predictions are ridiculous at this point. The dynamics of the virus, and the dynamics of the politics around are far from clear at this point...my advice is just go into wait and see mode and stop with the idiotic "end is near" predictions about the election.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2020, 02:59:44 pm »
Yes, I heard about this "other" poll too, so what gives? The article is dated March 12th though, I first heard about this yesterday.

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Trump’s Approval Rating Goes Up — Tops Obama’s Rating at Same Time in His Presidency — Despite Media Onslaught over Coronavirus Panic
by Jim Hoft March 12, 2020

President Trump’s Rasmussen approval rating increased on Thursday to 48% up a point since Wednesday.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/trumps-approval-rating-goes-up-tops-obamas-rating-at-same-time-in-his-presidency-despite-media-onslaught-over-coronavirus-panic/

So what the heck? The OP is Rasmussen too I believe.  Strike back but this shows again, maybe it's best to look around some for other reporting.
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2020, 03:01:48 pm »
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Trump’s Approval Rating Goes Up


DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?  IT MEANS THAT MSM PROPAGANDA ISN'T WORKING!
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2020, 03:06:02 pm »
The other thing that no one is talking about with all the fear mongering is the mortality rate for the Wuhan Flu will be well below 1% when testing really gets going and a lot of people discover that a lot more people had it and got over it. It is the elderly who are at risk and to be honest what aren't they at risk for, it's part of getting old.

Just for a dose of reality I think the mortality rate for SARS was around 9% and for MERS was around 30%. People are panicking because the word PANDEMIC is being thrown around, but all that means is the virus is found in multiple countries.

And let’s not forget how CNN declared a pandemic two days before the World Health Organization did!

So let’s get this party started!! CNN’s fear mongering is sooo transparent.
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2020, 03:34:21 pm »
And let’s not forget, CNN declared a pandemic two days before the World Health Organization did!

Let’s get this party started!! Their fear mongering is sooo transparent.

Unbelievably, China's media is busy trying to hang this on the US as well.

IMO they are taking their cues from the American leftwing media and seizing the disease they started as an opportunity to try to get a president they despise removed. I'm sure the rest of the global left will soon follow suit.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2020, 03:55:41 pm »
And let’s not forget how CNN declared a pandemic two days before the World Health Organization did!

So let’s get this party started!! CNN’s fear mongering is sooo transparent.

Words have meaning. It was clearly a pandemic before the WHO or CNN said it was. The WHO is a political organization first doing its master's bidding.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2020, 04:01:55 pm »
"Trump's Approval Ratings" have been total made-up bullsh*t since the Summer of '15.   

How could anybody with even a double-digit IQ expect a POTUS be responsible for where we are today regarding COVID-19?

GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES RIGHT NOW and give thanks that Barack Obama & FRiends aren't running things right now.

Then again, the media would be treating this a bit differently.    :shrug:
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2020, 04:22:30 pm »
No secret I am not the biggest Trump fan, no secret I have disapproved of some of his handling of this coronavirus stuff... but only a fool would blame him for causing it.

We all know that the left would blame him... but yet again he clumsily stumbled through this and shot his mouth off at the worse possible time throughout this thing.

There's a time to be an agitator and "blow stuff up"  president, and there's a time to appear as steady as a rock, and to reassure people. He's good at the former, not so good at the latter.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2020, 04:31:05 pm »
"Trump's Approval Ratings" have been total made-up bullsh*t since the Summer of '15.   

How could anybody with even a double-digit IQ expect a POTUS be responsible for where we are today regarding COVID-19?

GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES RIGHT NOW and give thanks that Barack Obama & FRiends aren't running things right now.

Then again, the media would be treating this a bit differently.    :shrug:

Correct. If Obama was in the White House....or any Dem...having done precisely as Trump has....all we’d be hearing about in the media is how bold and courageous the Presidents leadership has been. They’d be falling over themselves discussing how he bravely continues to make risky public appearances despite the risk to his person and family. And finally, there would be “touching and sensitive” expose’s on how deeply the President feels the pain of the American people.

What we ARE seeing with President Trump’s adept handling of this situation....is truly what propaganda looks when a nation no longer has an impartial or independent press..in its place is something that is simply an ideologically driven propaganda stream.

We are witnessing techniques from the media...and damn right it’s being coordinated by the leadership in our major media outlets....that would make Mao, Himmler and the editors of Pravda stand in envious awe. The greatest and most effective deception in human history is being pulled off right before our eyes....something the propagandists of the past could never fully pull off...and that is for a press to SEEM free whilst being entirely co-opted to serve a radical Leftist ideology.

This loss of a genuinely free press is nothing less than a harbinger of an approaching Socialist nightmare that is....barely and perhaps momentarily...being held at bay from our doorstep by President Trump and a few TRULY woke conservative politicians...and the only real Capital they have to wage this fight with us the inherent common sense of SOME of the American people. The Far Left PASSIONATELY hates Trump for this very reason...they see the situation with clear eyes. Trump is the only real obstacle in their path at this point.

So, be afraid Conservatives. Be very afraid...but not of this virus. What I’ve said is not fear mongering...I honestly wish that it were... it simply is a cold assessment of our present crisis. Either the country will rise against this Socialistic nightmare or we will fall into the abyss of economic collapse and the depravation of our liberty. Doing nothing...or standing on the sidelines because you don’t like the President, is no longer an option for anyone of principle.

The range of options for which to fight, as it often does in times when hard fought freedom is imperiled, has narrowed to two. Choosing a third is abdication at best and facilitation at worst.
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2020, 04:49:56 pm »
let me get this straight.... People are actually upset that the virus is here, that it isgetting more attention than the flu (which is much more severe, btw) and they are blaming Trump for it? :thud:   And that they would much rather vote for senility than common sense?  Is that it?  Who fixed these goings on?  Hellary?  Bernie?  DNC?  tri22

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2020, 05:24:08 pm »
The virus is here, and the UGLY TRUTH is that it is perhaps 30 times more deadly than the flu.  Essential is that for folks over 60 with a major health condition, the number I saw reported is that it has a 49% mortality rate.  That is huge and devastating.

China and Russia are reporting the USA unleashed a bio weapon on China.  This could become serious if they persist with this nonsense, as in war serious.

However, barring a shooting war, this whole thing come June begins to calm down IF this virus is like the cold virus.  That is presently an unknown.  Should it disappear come warmer weather, the economy will have a quick recovery.  The market may take a year to get to the level it was, if Trump is re-elected.  If a Dem is elected, look for the market to stay low.  Fear will be the reason, fear of higher taxes, higher regulations, permanent job loses, etc. 


I anticipate the market hitting bottom at 14, - 15,000, and begin to climb back slowly.  Trump needs to take executive action against China.  At a minimum, pull all pharma out of China.  If he fails to this this, he will appear to be weak.  And Trump would ahve a certain victory if Sanders or Biden were the candidate, but I say it will be HR Clinton.  And she has a real shot if she makes corrections to what she did last time.

The other thing to know is that the CDC is a den of Never Trumpers.  They hate him royally.  Almost to the man and woman.  Don't think for a moment they would not do things to undermine him every step of the way, just like the MSM.

And the fact is that the isolation we are enduring is shutting down the economy.  Job losses will be high.  There will be no growth for 2020. NONE!!!  Remember, to stave off a panic, it takes the media doing their part, and they are undermining the president every day.  Rest assured, the Chaos PArty and their coconspirator the MSM will have everything they are doing blow up in their faces.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2020, 05:29:04 pm »
The virus is here, and the UGLY TRUTH is that it is perhaps 30 times more deadly than the flu.  Essential is that for folks over 60 with a major health condition, the number I saw reported is that it has a 49% mortality rate.  That is huge and devastating.

China and Russia are reporting the USA unleashed a bio weapon on China.  This could become serious if they persist with this nonsense, as in war serious.

However, barring a shooting war, this whole thing come June begins to calm down IF this virus is like the cold virus.  That is presently an unknown.  Should it disappear come warmer weather, the economy will have a quick recovery.  The market may take a year to get to the level it was, if Trump is re-elected.  If a Dem is elected, look for the market to stay low.  Fear will be the reason, fear of higher taxes, higher regulations, permanent job loses, etc. 


I anticipate the market hitting bottom at 14, - 15,000, and begin to climb back slowly.  Trump needs to take executive action against China.  At a minimum, pull all pharma out of China.  If he fails to this this, he will appear to be weak.  And Trump would ahve a certain victory if Sanders or Biden were the candidate, but I say it will be HR Clinton.  And she has a real shot if she makes corrections to what she did last time.

The other thing to know is that the CDC is a den of Never Trumpers.  They hate him royally.  Almost to the man and woman.  Don't think for a moment they would not do things to undermine him every step of the way, just like the MSM.

And the fact is that the isolation we are enduring is shutting down the economy.  Job losses will be high.  There will be no growth for 2020. NONE!!!  Remember, to stave off a panic, it takes the media doing their part, and they are undermining the president every day.  Rest assured, the Chaos PArty and their coconspirator the MSM will have everything they are doing blow up in their faces.

With Schumer, Pelosi and their leftist accomplices in the Press Trump being declared "incompetent all the way.
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2020, 05:29:51 pm »
China and Russia are reporting the USA unleashed a bio weapon on China.

Yep.  Makes perfect sense.  We infected our own country, tanked our stock market, put the entire nation in a panic, and God-forbid cancelled the ACC basketball tournament just to hit some insignificant city in western China with a bug that is very similar to the SARS bug that the Bush Administration released in 2002.
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2020, 05:34:50 pm »
With Schumer, Pelosi and their leftist accomplices in the Press Trump being declared "incompetent all the way.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2020, 01:14:13 am »
Kudos to Mesaclone for the fine post #41 above.

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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2020, 01:57:57 am »
Where in the world do you come up with Biden beating Trump. The downturn in the economy will be from the over reaction of the public and the dumping of oil on the world market by Saudi Arabia. Biden doesn't even know what State he is in most days. How does a senile old man beat Trump.

Biden is considered “moderate” by the DNC. They’re smart enough to know that Sanders would be a sure loser. Biden has greater appeal to white, blue collar workers and black voters.

Biden is going to be tougher to beat than Sanders
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Re: Trump Approval Ratings Crash Amid Coronavirus Panic
« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2020, 02:14:25 am »
Biden is considered “moderate” by the DNC. They’re smart enough to know that Sanders would be a sure loser. Biden has greater appeal to white, blue collar workers and black voters.

Biden is going to be tougher to beat than Sanders
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