Bernie: Real Socialism Has Never Been Tried

[roamer_1]

I think Bernie genuinely wants to help people even if he isn't using the right methods.

Rose colored glasses for Bernie Three-Houses ... 

[berdie]

If you had to choose between president Biden and president Sanders which would it be?

I think you left out answer "C". Neither of the above.

[PeteS in CA]

Just the Communist version of socialism brought the slaughter of something like 100M innocent human beings.  That is what The Bern is promising that he he do "right". I have/had (unsure of the proper verb tense) great uncles that I never met, courtesy of Joseph Dzhugashvili; my Grandmother never learned what happened to her brothers. I cannot be sold on socialism, and The Bern is not a good human being.

[Dexter]

Rose colored glasses for Bernie Three-Houses ... 

Bernie has been in politics for like 35 years and he and his wife combined are worth a few million dollars. Who else has been in politics for nearly that long and isn't worth a lot more just on their own? He's a career senator that's making his second presidential run. He has a very reasonable amount of wealth.

[mountaineer]

Why Is Kim Jong-un So Fat? Ask a Democratic Socialist
Kit Bobko
Aug 6, 2018

Uncle Bernie and socialist darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have seized the imagination of the American Left and the so-called Trump Resistance with their ideas about universal healthcare, guaranteed government jobs, free college, and open borders. Their promises of sunny socialist plenty are becoming increasingly mainstream among American Democrats who believe they represent the best chance to unhorse Donald Trump and retake Congress this fall.

I have a question for these Democratic Socialists:

Why is Kim Jong-un so fat? ...

Uncle Bernie and his supporters might respond to news of the turophilic Mr. Kim by saying he is both a bad example and a bad guy, and by allowing this to occur demonstrates his country isn’t a true socialist state. They might even go further and say that socialism itself isn’t inherently bad but the people who’ve tried to implement are. ...

We’d put the right people in charge and do it the right way, the American Democratic Socialists would say.  ... 

Read the rest of the article

[austingirl]

Your problem is, you don't define "authoritarian" the same way the Bern Bros do.  Ronald Reagan, both Bushes and Donald Trump are "authoritarians," and he condemns them every time he takes a breath.

The Castro Bros were/are not authoritarians, they are agrarians.  Silly.

 

[musiclady]

I think Bernie genuinely wants to help people even if he isn't using the right methods. I think Joe is garbage that doesn't care about anything but his next bribe. To me that difference matters. You know I lean further left than anybody else on this forum, yet you tolerate me and seem to accept that I'm not human filth. I like to think I have earned a little bit of your respect even if you disagree with a lot of my opinions. Can the same not be true of Bernie?

Do you know a single thing about Bernie, @Dexter ?

Sounds like maybe no.......

[Dexter]

Do you know a single thing about Bernie, @Dexter ?

Sounds like maybe no.......

I know his consistency on the issues is rivaled only by the likes of Ron Paul, which leads me to believe he has real passion for what he says and isn't just saying whatever he can to get votes. That alone separates him from the majority of politicians.

[Cyber Liberty]

I think Bernie genuinely wants to help people even if he isn't using the right methods. I think Joe is garbage that doesn't care about anything but his next bribe. To me that difference matters. You know I lean further left than anybody else on this forum, yet you tolerate me and seem to accept that I'm not human filth. I like to think I have earned a little bit of your respect even if you disagree with a lot of my opinions. Can the same not be true of Bernie?

You don't seem like filth to me, just maybe a little misguided.  Bernie Sanders, however, I can't stand.  He's a parasite that never held down a job until he hopped on the government gravy train when he got elected Mayor of Burlington.  He's been a shiftless leach ever since, known for exactly three bills introduced as a Senator, two of them for renaming post offices.  He's the epitome of a sinecure-sucking pol.  He lives the very worst instincts of the Left.  He believes his own lectures and that I cannot abide.

And don't get me started on how he treated his first wife (not the one he Honeymooned in Moscow with).

[musiclady]

I know his consistency on the issues is rivaled only by the likes of Ron Paul, which leads me to believe he has real passion for what he says and isn't just saying whatever he can to get votes. That alone separates him from the majority of politicians.

Either that or he's a lifelong grifter who's a Soviet style Communist and who has decided to get rich on his schtick of taking advantage of people while he's loafing....

[Cyber Liberty]

Bernie has been in politics for like 35 years and he and his wife combined are worth a few million dollars. Who else has been in politics for nearly that long and isn't worth a lot more just on their own? He's a career senator that's making his second presidential run. He has a very reasonable amount of wealth.

If you can look at Bernie's three mansions and still think he's only worth a million dollars, you have a serious misunderstanding of what the phrase "Net Worth" means.

[Dexter]

You don't seem like filth to me, just maybe a little misguided.  Bernie Sanders, however, I can't stand.  He's a parasite that never held down a job until he hopped on the government gravy train when he got elected Mayor of Burlington.  He's been a shiftless leach ever since, known for exactly three bills introduced as a Senator, two of them for renaming post offices.  He's the epitome of a sinecure-sucking pol.  He lives the very worst instincts of the Left.  He believes his own lectures and that I cannot abide.

And don't get me started on how he treated his first wife (not the one he Honeymooned in Moscow with).

He probably would have gotten a lot more done in the senate if he hadn't spent the majority of his career fighting alone.

[Dexter]

If you can look at Bernie's three mansions and still think he's only worth a million dollars, you have a serious misunderstanding of what the phrase "Net Worth" means.

Does this look like a mansion to you?

[austingirl]

@Dexter
Bernie is a bum who never worked until he figured out, at the tender age of forty-one, to suck off the government. He pays his corrupt wife, who should be in prison for her fraud that destroyed the college she ran, and his step-kids from his campaign funds. He took his staff on 3 private jets for a ten minute jaunt from one campaign stop to another while he wants the rest of us to walk. Sure, he wants to help people- to learn to read the Communist Manifesto.

Owner of three homes, millionaire, hypocrite with no experience in anything in the real world. He's a disgusting loser that only the most ignorant and lazy follow.

[austingirl]

I know his consistency on the issues is rivaled only by the likes of Ron Paul, which leads me to believe he has real passion for what he says and isn't just saying whatever he can to get votes. That alone separates him from the majority of politicians.

@Dexter
Don't mention Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders in the same sentence.

[mountaineer]

[austingirl]

Does this look like a mansion to you?

Blame Hitlery for cheaping out on his bribe.

[austingirl]

He probably would have gotten a lot more done in the senate if he hadn't spent the majority of his career fighting alone.

Thank God he's the only "out" communist in the Senate.

[roamer_1]

Bernie has been in politics for like 35 years and he and his wife combined are worth a few million dollars. Who else has been in politics for nearly that long and isn't worth a lot more just on their own? He's a career senator that's making his second presidential run. He has a very reasonable amount of wealth.

His entire shtick is built on unicorn farts and patchouli dreams. You can't afford Bernie Sanders any more than you can afford AOC and her ridiculous green agenda (green is the new red).

[Cyber Liberty]

Does this look like a mansion to you?

I knew you would pick the "lake house."  Here's the one in Burlington.



Tell me...have you ever purchased a house in a city?  If not, that would explain why you would think this one is a measly couple hundred thou.

Mrs. Liberty and I shopped for two years before we found a house like that for < $1M.

[Cyber Liberty]

It's what he does.

[Smokin Joe]

I think Bernie genuinely wants to help people even if he isn't using the right methods. I think Joe is garbage that doesn't care about anything but his next bribe. To me that difference matters. You know I lean further left than anybody else on this forum, yet you tolerate me and seem to accept that I'm not human filth. I like to think I have earned a little bit of your respect even if you disagree with a lot of my opinions. Can the same not be true of Bernie?

Let me put it this way, @Dexter.

A man who is after money is generally predictable. His god is in the open, he will do anything for it.

But more evil has been done in the name of helping someone, or imposing restrictions on people for "their own good", and such types are insatiable, ever driven by the need to do more "good", and morally at home with whatever evil ensues because it was imposed with good intent. With that sort, our Rights are readily forfeit in the cause of "the common good".

If I had to choose between the two, I'd take Biden, because he is in it for the money, primarily, and there is a chance he'd leave some of my Rights alone.

[truth_seeker]

I wonder if Bernie was on honeymoon in Moscow, while President Reagan told Gorbachev to "Tear Down This Wall?"

[Dexter]

I knew you would pick the "lake house."  Here's the one in Burlington.



Tell me...have you ever purchased a house in a city?  If not, that would explain why you would think this one is a measly couple hundred thou.

Mrs. Liberty and I shopped for two years before we found a house like that for < $1M.

Look up his net worth and compare it to anybody else in the senate that has been there for more than a handful of years. Again, he has been a senator for a very long time, and has been in politics for more than three decades. He's also had two strong runs for president now. His wealth is actually surprisingly low considering all of that.

[Cyber Liberty]

I wonder if Bernie was on honeymoon in Moscow, while President Reagan told Gorbachev to "Tear Down This Wall?"

He could have been, it was 1988.