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Continuing with the most absurd and stupid here we see again the clown AOC wasting valuable oxygen:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-faith_n_5e580e16c5b6450a30bbd0f7?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuY2hyaXN0aWFuZm9ydW1zLmNvbS90aHJlYWRzL2FsZXhhbmRyaWEtb2Nhc2lvLWNvcnRlei1qZXN1cy13b3VsZC1iZS1tYWxpZ25lZC1hcy0lRTIlODAlOThyYWRpY2FsJUUyJTgwJTk5LWJ5LXRvZGF5JUUyJTgwJTk5cy1jb25ncmVzcy44MTUxMjI2Lw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGzGaMtBvFSGhjaQwcd7o5j4zj3yGOHjpqNIwuohZFTBBO0ont6K4Sp1ntrYoaWj6TkKt4jPMtP5qDpC1JTDcMhrB_d49f8Ktde_3_f7Z-2tN5DWL6KrA8ee6kaLe3HucTMvhsQUIAu8HHggHLvxgpBh6IjeqRibQhpweszFKI8v

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Among the witnesses at Thursday’s hearing was Evan Minton, a transgender man who is suing a Catholic hospital in California for canceling his hysterectomy. The Trump administration had cited Minton’s case to justify why the conscience rule was necessary.​

Ok anyone want to take a swing at why the Catholic hospital refused to perform the hysterectomy on a perfectly healthy biological female?

AOC once again showing how much she does not know:

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Ocasio-Cortez said that her faith teaches her that Minton’s life is sacred and that he deserves equal access to medical care.​

“There is nothing holy about rejecting medical care of people, no matter who they are, on the grounds of what their identity is,” she said. “There is nothing holy about turning someone away from a hospital.”​

Wow. There’s a word I’m looking for here to describe this statement but probably would be uncharitable.


But wait she said her faith teaches a biological female who is transgender male needs a hysterectomy as if this care denied is to remove a deadly tumor. What faith would that be? Of course she claims to be Catholic.

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Ocasio-Cortez, who identifies as Catholic, frequently refers to her religious beliefs on Twitter.
Must have missed this in catechism training as a child. ​

This is the kicker. She’s right that some have used the Scriptures for wicked and unjust reasons. But she follows their suit by making the same error of using the Bible and her Catholic faith as a blunt eisegesis weapon:

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“White supremacists have done it, those who justified slavery did it, those who fought against integration did it and we’re seeing it today,” she said.​

Yes they have but so have you for the same selfish reasons AOC.

Of course this garbage article from HuffPo leaves out the rest of the story:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/court-rules-catholic-hospital-can-be-sued-for-refusing-transgender-hysterectomy/



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Among the witnesses at Thursday’s hearing was Evan Minton, a transgender man who is suing a Catholic hospital in California for canceling his hysterectomy.

Say WHAT??????? Afraid of getting preggers,is he?

Somebodie PLEEZE splain to me WHY the judge didn't just throw that out and threaten him with jail time if he wasted the courts time by refiling?

BTW,being a Catholic Hospital doesn't have a single damn thing to do with it. NO hospital can fix what ain't there.
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AOC, Pelosi or Buttgigger, for that matter, talking about their "faith" is more disturbing than nails on a chalkboard. I can't imagine God's reaction.
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If Jesus met AOC, maybe he could perform a miracle, and give this woman a brain.
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Jesus was killed by his own Government.  Wonder how she'd justify that?
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Jesus was killed by his own Government.  Wonder how she'd justify that?
One less Jew. She approves.
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One less Jew. She approves.

@mountaineer

First you would have to convince her he wasn't a white man. After all,she has seen all the photos of him.

Good luck!
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She said it strikes her that “if Christ himself walked through these doors and said what he said thousands of years ago ― that we should love our neighbor and our enemy, that we should welcome the stranger, fight for the least of us, that it is easier ... for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into a kingdom of heaven ― he would be maligned as a radical and rejected from these doors.”

He would be rejected, but it wouldn't be by Christian conservatives. He would be rejected by the godless leftists.

Jesus was not a socialist.

Matt. 19:23 is a call to character not a call to envy the rich. Jesus never implied that accumulating wealth through peaceful commerce was in any way wrong.

Matt. 20:1-16 workers are paid differently and the business owner tells the complainers I have the right to do what I want with my own money. It is Jesus who is telling people this example and He is not condemning the business owner.

Matt. 25:14-30 the story of the servants with the talents. The man who generated the greatest return is rewarded.

Luke 10:29-37 the good samaritan. The good man helped the stranger because he wanted to he did not look to the govt. to do it for him.

Luke 12:13-15 Jesus is asked by a man for him to compel his brother to redistribute his brother's inheritance. Jesus tells him to guard against greed and envy.

Jesus would be rejected by the godless leftists because he never called for govt to forcefully redistribute wealth, or that govt should be the means by which we help people.

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Jesus was killed by his own Government.  Wonder how she'd justify that?

She'd focus on the injustice of a white man making Simon of Cyrene carry his load.

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She said it strikes her that “if Christ himself walked through these doors and said what he said thousands of years ago ― that we should love our neighbor and our enemy, that we should welcome the stranger, fight for the least of us, that it is easier ... for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into a kingdom of heaven ― he would be maligned as a radical and rejected from these doors.”

He would be rejected, but it wouldn't be by Christian conservatives. He would be rejected by the godless leftists.

Jesus was not a socialist.

Matt. 19:23 is a call to character not a call to envy the rich. Jesus never implied that accumulating wealth through peaceful commerce was in any way wrong.

Matt. 20:1-16 workers are paid differently and the business owner tells the complainers I have the right to do what I want with my own money. It is Jesus who is telling people this example and He is not condemning the business owner.

Matt. 25:14-30 the story of the servants with the talents. The man who generated the greatest return is rewarded.

Luke 10:29-37 the good samaritan. The good man helped the stranger because he wanted to he did not look to the govt. to do it for him.

Luke 12:13-15 Jesus is asked by a man for him to compel his brother to redistribute his brother's inheritance. Jesus tells him to guard against greed and envy.

Jesus would be rejected by the godless leftists because he never called for govt to forcefully redistribute wealth, or that govt should be the means by which we help people.

BTW, welcome to TBR @Redleghunter

@bilo you hit on an excellent point...she wags her finger at people for supposedly using the Bible to justify hatred and bigotry and totally glosses over how she and her ilk try and use the Bible and Jesus' name to justify Socialism.
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She said it strikes her that “if Christ himself walked through these doors and said what he said thousands of years ago ― that we should love our neighbor and our enemy, that we should welcome the stranger, fight for the least of us, that it is easier ... for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into a kingdom of heaven ― he would be maligned as a radical and rejected from these doors.”

He would be rejected, but it wouldn't be by Christian conservatives. He would be rejected by the godless leftists.

Jesus was not a socialist.

 

@bilo

Gimme a bleeping BREAK! He was the ORIGINAL socialist. Even lived in a commune with a bunch of hairy-legged men and stated "A rich man has as much chance of getting into Heaven as a camel does passing through the eye of a needle".
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Gimme a bleeping BREAK! He was the ORIGINAL socialist. Even lived in a commune with a bunch of hairy-legged men and stated "A rich man has as much chance of getting into Heaven as a camel does passing through the eye of a needle".

Who knew that you and AOC thought the same way.   **nononono*
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Who knew that you and AOC thought the same way.   **nononono*

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Yeah,I don't follow your superstition,so I must think like AOC.

Good call!
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More on the lawsuit, https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-09-18/hiltzik-catholic-hospital-discrimination-case .

I'm not a Catholic, but even I know a Catholic hospital will not perform surgeries that are not medically necessary. They regard such surgeries as mutilation. Carmichael, CA is in the Sacramento metro area, and there is no dearth of hospitals in Sacto. IMO, it is very possible that the female knew of Catholic hospitals' policies and did this to create a pretext for a lawsuit. She just as easily could have gone to Sutter or UC Davis hospitals to get mutilated.
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 tri22 Please take the "Jesus was a socialist" discussion to PMs. tri22

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More on the lawsuit, https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-09-18/hiltzik-catholic-hospital-discrimination-case .

 She just as easily could have gone to Sutter or UC Davis hospitals to get mutilated.

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I'm not so sure event that would work. Hospitals today have plenty of work to do,and don't need to go cruising for unnecessary surgery to pull in money unless it is plastic surgery/surgeons.

Even abortion doctors only have so many free hours in their days.
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Gimme a bleeping BREAK! He was the ORIGINAL socialist. Even lived in a commune with a bunch of hairy-legged men and stated "A rich man has as much chance of getting into Heaven as a camel does passing through the eye of a needle".

Here's one of those times we will disagree. If you read Scripture you would know the context of the comment you're quoting.

Jesus never called for govt to be the mechanism for redistributing wealth. Jesus called for us to have a changed heart and as a result a desire to help our fellow man. Jesus never condemned the wealthy for being successful. He condemned those who made money an idol.
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tri22 Please take the "Jesus was a socialist" discussion to PMs. tri22

What does this mean?
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Yes, I'm sure Jesus would be totally for abortion including killing the  child after it's been born.
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tri22 Please take the "Jesus was a socialist" discussion to PMs. tri22

The point of the thread was AOC's equation of how she views religion to Socialism and "inclusiveness".

Just sayin...
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If you want to take this discussion,

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,393826.msg2160474.html#msg2160474

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,393826.msg2160478.html#msg2160478

do it using Private Messages.

Okay, but by eliminating this from the discussion you are letting AOC's basic point remain valid, that Jesus would want govt to be incharge of taking care of everyone.
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She said it strikes her that “if Christ himself walked through these doors and said what he said thousands of years ago ― that we should love our neighbor and our enemy, that we should welcome the stranger, fight for the least of us, that it is easier ... for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into a kingdom of heaven ― he would be maligned as a radical and rejected from these doors.”

He would be rejected, but it wouldn't be by Christian conservatives. He would be rejected by the godless leftists.

Jesus was not a socialist.

Matt. 19:23 is a call to character not a call to envy the rich. Jesus never implied that accumulating wealth through peaceful commerce was in any way wrong.

Matt. 20:1-16 workers are paid differently and the business owner tells the complainers I have the right to do what I want with my own money. It is Jesus who is telling people this example and He is not condemning the business owner.

Matt. 25:14-30 the story of the servants with the talents. The man who generated the greatest return is rewarded.

Luke 10:29-37 the good samaritan. The good man helped the stranger because he wanted to he did not look to the govt. to do it for him.

Luke 12:13-15 Jesus is asked by a man for him to compel his brother to redistribute his brother's inheritance. Jesus tells him to guard against greed and envy.

Jesus would be rejected by the godless leftists because he never called for govt to forcefully redistribute wealth, or that govt should be the means by which we help people.

BTW, welcome to TBR @Redleghunter

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I'm not a Catholic, but even I know a Catholic hospital will not perform surgeries that are not medically necessary.

Well, on the surface, this comment is not correct.  Catholic hospitals across the USA perform mutilations every day, to make money.  Starting with circumcision.  Male genital mutilation MGM is still performed on about 50% of our male babies, despite not being necessary.  Pure lunacy.

John Hopkins discontinued performing transgender surgery years ago because they determined that folks desiring such were suffering from a mental disorder.  They were a leader in such surgeries.  I tend to agree with their position.

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Well, on the surface, this comment is not correct.  Catholic hospitals across the USA perform mutilations every day, to make money.  Starting with circumcision.  Male genital mutilation MGM is still performed on about 50% of our male babies, despite not being necessary.  Pure lunacy.

John Hopkins discontinued performing transgender surgery years ago because they determined that folks desiring such were suffering from a mental disorder.  They were a leader in such surgeries.  I tend to agree with their position.
Circumcision is a sacrament in the Catholic church. As someone who grew up Catholic I can assure you that circumcision no way prevented yours truly from enjoying horizontal refreshment.
Orthodox Jews also circumcize their male children although it is not a sacrament.