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American Military News by   Dave Altimari - The Hartford Courant February 14, 2020

Lawyers in Remington lawsuit will get access to computer used by Adam Lanza, shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre

Lawyers involved in a civil lawsuit filed by families of victims of the Sandy Hook school massacre against Remington, the manufacturer of the weapon used in the attack, will get access to the shooter’s computer to search for records that could impact the case.

The two sides have agreed to a hire a forensic computer consultant to create digital images of pieces of evidence in the possession of the Connecticut State Police, which investigated the school shooting, according to court records. State police have never publicly said how successful the FBI was in retrieving data from Adam Lanza’s computer or how it was done but is is clear from thousands of pages turned over to The Courant in 2018 after a five-year fight to get them that plenty was recovered from his computer.

In a one-page stipulation approved by Judge Barbara Bellis Thursday in Superior Court in Waterbury the lawyers also agreed to share the cost of the consultant, to not use the consultant as an expert witness and that all communications with the consultant must include both parties.

State police impounded Lanza’s computer from his Newtown home as part of their year-long investigation of the shooting. They have retained possession of it ever since at the state police forensic laboratory.

Some of the documents that state police recovered from Lanza’s computer have already been made public by the Courant, including a spreadsheet of mass killers that he kept and his writings on subjects such as his disgust for overweight people and his aversion to being touched.

More: https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/02/lawyers-in-remington-lawsuit-will-get-access-to-computer-used-by-adam-lanza-shooter-at-sandy-hook-elementary-school-massacre/

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State police have never publicly said how successful the FBI was in retrieving data from Adam Lanza’s computer or how it was done but is is clear from thousands of pages turned over to The Courant in 2018 after a five-year fight to get them that plenty was recovered from his computer.
Now wait just a moment. They said when this happened that he had destroyed his hard drives and made them irrecoverable.

This is starting to look more and more like the Las Vegas shooter.

Here's a hint: if you don't want creeps like Alex Jones exploiting mass shootings for conspiracy theories, don't engage in the same kinds of cover-ups that lend credence to those theories!
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Now wait just a moment. They said when this happened that he had destroyed his hard drives and made them irrecoverable.

This is starting to look more and more like the Las Vegas shooter.

Here's a hint: if you don't want creeps like Alex Jones exploiting mass shootings for conspiracy theories, don't engage in the same kinds of cover-ups that lend credence to those theories!
Right. If they would just be straightforward instead of evasive, the whole situation (In Vegas and elsewhere) wouldn't seem so hinky and wouldn't invite speculation as to why.

At the core of this suit, I'm just having a hard time recalling any ad by any firearm manufacturer ever touting their products as a "must have" for the potential buyer's next mass murder spree.

I have seen ads about hunting, defense, even national defense, but I cannot ever recall an ad marketing any firearm as the tool of choice for going down to the local school and bustin' caps on a bunch of rug rats.

If I market sandwich bread, an someone comes along and says gee that looks like just what they need to slip a bomb or poison into, did I market that bread for that purpose? Obviously not.
Does advertising that a hammer gives more power per whack mean that if someone chooses to use it on people, they can sue the manufacturer for making a better hammer?

No firearm manufacturer has marketed their firearms for shooting humans outside of legitimate self defense, Law enforcement, or military applications, engaging in lawful hunting, or target shooting.

As for what appeals to whom, that's back to blaming a well dressed woman for being raped because the rapist crossed the lines between civilization and unacceptable behaviour. The responsibility for the proper and lawful use of the product should fall on the user, not the manufacturer, unless the product is defective.

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IIRC, Lanza's mother bought/owned the guns. She stored them in a way that Lanza could access them. Lanza took the gun(s) without her permission. How can Remington possibly be responsible for a gun store selling guns to Lanza's mother, and how the mother stored her guns, and for Lanza stealing them? This lawsuit is absurd on its face.
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Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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IIRC, Lanza's mother bought/owned the guns. She stored them in a way that Lanza could access them. Lanza took the gun(s) without her permission. How can Remington possibly be responsible for a gun store selling guns to Lanza's mother, and how the mother stored her guns, and for Lanza stealing them? This lawsuit is absurd on its face.
It would be like holding Stihl or Poulan responsible for advertising chainsaws, and having someone emulate that movie with one. How is that the manufacturer's fault?

Will anyone be able to advertise a kitchen knife, or a vehicle that "will go through anything"...

This is pissed off people looking for deep pockets because someone misused the company's product.

They have destroyed the house, he contents of the home were incinerated ("to keep curio seekers from collecting them as grim mementos or to sell"), the school was demolished. There is nothing there to be angry at. Any evidence not held in evidence has been destroyed.

Going after Remington in their protracted grief won't fix anything. It will not bring one single child back from the grave. t won't make these people feel any better for taking their anger out on yet something else that had nothing to do with the sick mind that perpetrated the crime.
 
It won't prevent a crime in the future.  Put a check in their hands and if they feel better, this wasn't about their kids, it was either for money, to punish someone who didn't shoot anyone, or just part of a protracted tantrum. Then what?

Nothing hurts like losing a kid, especially to something senseless. We're supposed to outlive our kids.
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The perpetrator is dead and gone.
The supplier of the weapon (his mom) dead and gone.
Their house is gone (torn down).
Their stuff is gone (burned).
The school is gone (also torn down).

There isn't anything left to throw rocks at in their anger, yet they continue.
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Now wait just a moment. They said when this happened that he had destroyed his hard drives and made them irrecoverable.

This is starting to look more and more like the Las Vegas shooter.

Here's a hint: if you don't want creeps like Alex Jones exploiting mass shootings for conspiracy theories, don't engage in the same kinds of cover-ups that lend credence to those theories!

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Thanks for mentioning that! I had forgotten all about it.
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