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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2020, 08:10:31 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on January 28, 2020, 08:00:45 pm
So, if you were there, what question would you ask?

Why didn't the House call witnesses they wanted to hear from?

Why didn't the House go to court and fight for their subpoena's?

Why didn't Schiff testify under oath to the Judiciary committee?

Why didn't the IG testify publicly and why wasn't his transcript released?

Why wasn't the leaker called to testify under oath?

Why weren't Trump's lawyers allowed to cross examine witnesses?

Why weren't the Pubs allowed to call all the witnesses they wanted?

Why have you supported this soviet style show trial?
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2020, 08:13:07 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 07:55:32 pm
OK, that's a wrap.  The Defense is totally finished so the "Questioning Period" begins tomorrow at 1:00 PM.

Who gets questioned?  The prosecutors?
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2020, 08:17:22 pm »
Why wasn't  Ambassador Yovanovitch charged with perjury after she lied under oath to a House Committee, and why was her perjured testimony included in the rationale for impeaching the President?  And how much of the missing US AID money ended up in her bank account?
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2020, 08:23:43 pm »
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Why wasn't  Ambassador Yovanovitch charged with perjury after she lied under oath to a House Committee, and why was her perjured testimony included in the rationale for impeaching the President?  And how much of the missing US AID money ended up in her bank account?

Why?  Because they aren't interested in the truth; they are only interested in removing Trump -- and there are still those within the GOP that would like to see him gone.
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2020, 08:38:12 pm »
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Key question for Republicans: Nothing they could imagine hearing from any witness is, in their view, going to change the outcome of the impeachment trial. Do they want to extend tedious proceedings by weeks, possibly, for witness testimony that won't change a thing.
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« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2020, 08:44:32 pm »
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GOP Senators are beginning to act as though they are genuinely concerned this could spin out of control for them, and for Trump.
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« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2020, 08:46:33 pm »
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Jay Sekulow seems unaware that he is now waiving whatever executive privilege might have shielded Bolton’s account of his interactions with Trump. And he’s strengthening the case for subpoenaing Bolton right away.
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2020, 09:13:20 pm »
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Jay Sekulow seems unaware that he is now waiving whatever executive privilege might have shielded Bolton’s account of his interactions with Trump. And he’s strengthening the case for subpoenaing Bolton right away.

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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2020, 09:41:13 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on January 28, 2020, 08:00:45 pm
So, if you were there, what question would you ask?




What exactly do you know, how do you know and what is your true motivation for all of this?
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2020, 09:51:28 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2020, 10:00:17 pm »
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2020, 10:54:35 pm »
If I am a dem, then I ask questions of the House Managers that require more testimony since that is what I want.Open ended, looking for obscure answers that may or may not have anything to do with the evidence/testimony already provided.
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2020, 11:25:55 pm »
So, McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to prevent witnesses.  BOHICA.

Will be called: Bolton and Mulvaney. 

Will not be called:  Ciamerella, Schiff or any Biteme.

Consolation prize:  More testimony from Jonathon Turley.
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2020, 01:47:35 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 11:25:55 pm
So, McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to prevent witnesses.  BOHICA.

Will be called: Bolton and Mulvaney. 

Will not be called:  Ciamerella, Schiff or any Biteme.

Consolation prize:  More testimony from Jonathon Turley.

End result lose the Senate majority. Trump gets re-elected and fights with a Rat controlled Congress for four years.
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2020, 04:26:10 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 11:25:55 pm
So, McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to prevent witnesses.  BOHICA.

Will be called: Bolton and Mulvaney. 

Will not be called:  Ciamerella, Schiff or any Biteme.

Consolation prize:  More testimony from Jonathon Turley.

Okay, let’s say McConnell doesn’t have the vote to prevent calling for witnesses. So, what does that mean?

Well, then each individual witness must be approved by a majority of the senate. Who has the majority? That’s right, the GOP. So, the result would likely be that no witness can get a majority.

And in the end, no witnesses testify and McConnell moves to a vote on the articles of impeachment, or possibly for dismissal.

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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2020, 04:40:21 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 29, 2020, 04:26:10 pm
Okay, let’s say McConnell doesn’t have the vote to prevent calling for witnesses. So, what does that mean?

Well, then each individual witness must be approved by a majority of the senate. Who has the majority? That’s right, the GOP. So, the result would likely be that no witness can get a majority.

And in the end, no witnesses testify and McConnell moves to a vote on the articles of impeachment, or possibly for dismissal.

Rand Paul predicts no witnesses for Trump if the Senate votes on individual witnesses.  Enough turncoat RINOs exist to prevent either Biden or the fake "whistleblower" from being called.  All witnesses will be for the prosecution.
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2020, 05:08:25 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 29, 2020, 04:26:10 pm
Okay, let’s say McConnell doesn’t have the vote to prevent calling for witnesses. So, what does that mean?

Well, then each individual witness must be approved by a majority of the senate. Who has the majority? That’s right, the GOP. So, the result would likely be that no witness can get a majority.

And in the end, no witnesses testify and McConnell moves to a vote on the articles of impeachment, or possibly for dismissal.

    Murkowski, Collins and Romney does not leave Cocaine Mitch much room to play with and since CJ Roberts is presiding over the trial doesn't that disallow VP Pence as a tiebreaker?
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Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2020, 06:23:53 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 29, 2020, 04:40:21 pm
Rand Paul predicts no witnesses for Trump if the Senate votes on individual witnesses.  Enough turncoat RINOs exist to prevent either Biden or the fake "whistleblower" from being called.  All witnesses will be for the prosecution.

That's my take as well.  Which is why McConnell should have started this process the moment the House passed the impeachment articles and subpoenaed Ciaramella to testify.  The Dems weren't ready then, but they sure are ready now.
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