Author Topic: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?  (Read 4217 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline XenaLee

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,398
  • Gender: Female
  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2020, 10:21:57 pm »
@roamer_1 @XenaLee
Maybe we can leave that age old argument for a diff thread.   What’s happening in Virginia May be of huge importance so let’s not derail.  This has nothing whatsoever to do with trump.

As I said on another thread:

Let’s just say:  having a vested interest, I am planning on being there.  The tenor of everything I’m seeing and hearing is that pretty much everyone is still planning on being armed.  Especially because Northam’s Emerg Declaration is in violation of a 2012 Va Law expressly forbidding govt from infringing on the 2A when an emergency declaration is issued. (He’s skirting that by declaring Capitol Square a shelter)

The scuttlebutt says that the gov is limiting access to Capitol Square to one gate with a metal detector.   They’ve already surrounded the rest of the square with fencing/barricades. 

I’m betting that the lone access point and/or multiple sections of the barricade will be breached inside of about 15mins.

People here are pissed...like I have never seen.
Whole lot of folks are about to put the “I will not comply” to the test.

I'd really like to stay home and watch the live feeds of this event, but wouldn't you know... I have an appointment I probably can't get out of.  Hope some here can or will link to a video I can watch when I get back.   What time does this rally start?
No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52,963
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2020, 10:32:33 pm »
"Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?"

Yes.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2020, 10:51:22 pm by sneakypete »
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline Maj. Bill Martin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10,859
  • Gender: Male
  • I'll make Mincemeat out of 'em"
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2020, 10:32:36 pm »
@roamer_1 @XenaLee
Maybe we can leave that age old argument for a diff thread.   What’s happening in Virginia May be of huge importance so let’s not derail.  This has nothing whatsoever to do with trump.

As I said on another thread:

Let’s just say:  having a vested interest, I am planning on being there.  The tenor of everything I’m seeing and hearing is that pretty much everyone is still planning on being armed.  Especially because Northam’s Emerg Declaration is in violation of a 2012 Va Law expressly forbidding govt from infringing on the 2A when an emergency declaration is issued. (He’s skirting that by declaring Capitol Square a shelter)

The scuttlebutt says that the gov is limiting access to Capitol Square to one gate with a metal detector.   They’ve already surrounded the rest of the square with fencing/barricades. 

I’m betting that the lone access point and/or multiple sections of the barricade will be breached inside of about 15mins.

People here are pissed...like I have never seen.
Whole lot of folks are about to put the “I will not comply” to the test.

Stay as safe as you can out there.

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52,963
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2020, 10:34:23 pm »
At one time, I tried to follow the principle of not ascribing malice when the matter could be understood as stupidity. To an extent, I still try. But, it becomes less tenable by the day

@don-o

Who says malice and stupidity can't live in the same brain pan? I think history has proven that to be true more often than not.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52,963
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2020, 10:37:22 pm »
He thinks he is, but I don't think he's measured the whirlwind he'd reap from it correctly.

What would be funny, is if Northam pushes it and calls out the Nat'l Guard, then Trump activates and federalizes them to protect VA citizens from their own state govt.

@Free Vulcan

I am guessing that IF that happens,congress would have no trouble getting enough votes to impeach Trump. Want to get them worked up,threaten THEIR  soup bowl!
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52,963
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2020, 10:39:40 pm »
No you don't. Your vote is an endorsement FOR Tumpy the Clown. That is all it can be.

@roamer_1

You are just all pissy because you have painted yourself into a corner,and don't know how to get out of it,so you will defend your position to the death.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43,766
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2020, 10:49:50 pm »
@roamer_1

You are just all pissy because you have painted yourself into a corner,and don't know how to get out of it,so you will defend your position to the death.

@sneakypete

I ain't pissy, and I ain't in a corner.

Try again.

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,712
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2020, 10:55:42 pm »
So what did y'all think of those ads for role playing actors (crisis actors)?
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline Axeslinger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,538
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2020, 10:57:11 pm »
So what did y'all think of those ads for role playing actors (crisis actors)?
Love to know the source
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." - Thomas Jefferson

Offline mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 78,809
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2020, 10:59:10 pm »
Love to know the source
HighImpactVlogs
 http://bit.ly/HighImpactFlixOfficial

I saw it on Twitter, and thought it was relevant to this discussion
Support Israel's emergency medical service. afmda.org

Offline Axeslinger

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,538
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2020, 11:02:05 pm »
HighImpactVlogs
 http://bit.ly/HighImpactFlixOfficial

I saw it on Twitter, and thought it was relevant to this discussion
I actually watched the vid (for some reason thought it was a pic when I first saw it)

I suspect it actually is what it says it is and is unrelated to Richmond.  Probably Lots of NGO activity up in that neck o the woods
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." - Thomas Jefferson

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43,766
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2020, 11:03:26 pm »
So what did y'all think of those ads for role playing actors (crisis actors)?

Specifically stated 'Not for Crisis Actors', so...  :shrug:

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,712
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2020, 11:04:15 pm »
HighImpactVlogs
 http://bit.ly/HighImpactFlixOfficial

I saw it on Twitter, and thought it was relevant to this discussion
I think it is relevant.
Without starting any rounds of Conspiracy Theories, Crisis actor events were allegedly held in the vicinity of Sandy Hook and Las Vegas temporally proximal to the shootings in those locations.  Such calls raise suspicions, especially this close to an event of this magnitude where some folks are going to be hot headed.

Add in ANTIFA, who have a bit of a reputation for not playing nice with others, and this is indeed a powder keg.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,712
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2020, 11:06:09 pm »
Specifically stated 'Not for Crisis Actors', so...  :shrug:
Only in the rewrite. How leftists act when caught. ("Not for a false flag event"  What brought that on?)
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43,766
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2020, 11:09:42 pm »
Only in the rewrite. How leftists act when caught. ("Not for a false flag event"  What brought that on?)

I don't know. And it's disappeared, so...  :shrug:

Offline mountaineer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 78,809
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2020, 11:12:30 pm »
This was posted on Facebook by a Virginia state senator:
Quote
Senator Amanda Chase
8 hrs ·

Sadly, I am posting this, knowing that the Governor of Virginia has declared a State of Emergency in our state.

I want you to be aware of how we are being set up.

Does the Patriot Act ring a bell?

Does the National Defense Authorization Act ring a bell?

If people show up wearing any kind of uniform, patch or other symbol on their clothing signifying they belong to a militia and something goes wrong, you could/will be held as a domestic terrorist.

If anyone steps out of line, all it takes is one person, it may even be a government plant....if that plant does anything to disrupt the rally, you could/will be arrested as a domestic terrorist.

The Governor, using the media has already set the stage for this to happen.
He has already laid the groundwork to make the entire movement look like insurrection.

It will be used to put the rest of the nation on notice of what will happen to you, if you resist.

They have used the Southern Poverty Law Center over the last 15 years to lay the groundwork.

They have labeled us as potential domestic terrorist for a long time now.

Anyone who has ever related to the 3%er's, a militia, or just belonged to any Patriot group...the groundwork has been laid to brand you as a domestic terrorist.

They have gone out of their way since the Obama years to insure they had us labeled, but it didn't start with Obama. It started with the Patriot Act under the Bush administration.

We are being played by a well oiled machine, these things have been in the works for many years.

They are kicking things into high gear. Military veterans were/are even listed as potential domestic terrorist.

We were told not once, but several times by the current President, “It's Not Me they are after, It's You, The American People.“

Their actions over the last three years have shown you he was right, they are coming after us full speed ahead and they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

Sic semper tyrannis, keep your head on a swivel and know what's going on around you at all times, at Lobby Day 1/20/20.

Everyone be safe out there....Thus always to tyrants.
Support Israel's emergency medical service. afmda.org

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,712
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2020, 11:13:07 pm »
I don't know. And it's disappeared, so...  :shrug:
Sure it has, apparently people were calling up and giving them hell over it.

In its place, a new, improved, not a false flag operation video with the town changed (still about the same distance from Richmond).

So are there two of these events they are hiring $250/day people for, or is there still just the first one, rebranded?
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43,766
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #42 on: January 17, 2020, 11:26:03 pm »
Sure it has, apparently people were calling up and giving them hell over it.

You misunderstand me Joe. my 'so?' speaks to the lack of evidence  and an inability toward action.

Hard for me to get all up in arms over a yootoob and nothing else more credible.

Offline EdinVA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,584
  • Gender: Male
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2020, 11:50:18 pm »
*****rollingeyes*****

You cannot vote AGAINST anything. Your vote is an endorsement.

Give me something to vote *for*
When I held my nose and checked Romney, Trust me, I was voting against obama..

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43,766
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2020, 11:52:28 pm »
When I held my nose and checked Romney, Trust me, I was voting against obama..

That ain't how Romney saw it.

Offline Hoodat

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 36,501
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2020, 12:46:10 am »
Ed Galespi was not conservative enough or was not articulate enough or or or.. So I'll show'em, I will stay home and not vote....
Now we are screwed....

It doesn't help that the state GOP didn't put up candidates in a quarter of the Assembly races.  There is no opposition party to the Democrats in the Commonwealth.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.

-Dwight Eisenhower-


"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."

-Ayn Rand-

Offline EdinVA

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8,584
  • Gender: Male
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2020, 01:11:02 am »
It doesn't help that the state GOP didn't put up candidates in a quarter of the Assembly races.  There is no opposition party to the Democrats in the Commonwealth.
Well, decent, respectful people won't run and subject themselves and their families to the continual stream of brutal accusations.
They are destroying peoples careers, families and businesses in the name of "democracy".
I wish we had stronger slander laws maybe we could stop some of this junk.

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52,963
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2020, 02:23:07 am »
This was posted on Facebook by a Virginia state senator:

The Governor, using the media has already set the stage for this to happen.
He has already laid the groundwork to make the entire movement look like insurrection.

It will be used to put the rest of the nation on notice of what will happen to you, if you resist.

I have believed all of that with all my heart from the first instant I heard about it.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline sneakypete

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 52,963
  • Twitter is for Twits
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2020, 02:24:40 am »


So are there two of these events they are hiring $250/day people for, or is there still just the first one, rebranded?

@Smokin Joe

The funny part about that is that by now they have hired so many undercover ATF agents that they will be arresting each other before it's over.
Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,712
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2020, 03:03:46 am »
@Smokin Joe

The funny part about that is that by now they have hired so many undercover ATF agents that they will be arresting each other before it's over.
A friend of mine in High School went to a pot party and got a bad vibe, so he went to the can and bailed through the window. It turned out the police (who were everyone else at the party) all tried to arrest each other. He didn't bring anything, didn't buy anything, didn't even partake, just bailed, so they had nothing on him, either. (He did get a good look at a bunch of undercovers though).
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis