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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #125 on: January 20, 2020, 09:15:43 pm »
Trump's judges are getting vetted by the Federalist Society, not by McConnell.  In any case, if you truly believe your bolded language is true, then there is absolutely no hope anyway.  Because if the judges being pushed by the Federalist Society are just activists of another flavor as you say, then we have no other pool of conservative judges anywhere, and we're doomed to an activist, progressive court no matter who we elect.  And that kind of a court can bowl over the Tea Party at the federal or state level, and barely register a speed bump.

As a more than 30 year member of the Federalist Society myself, I personally am quite certain you are wrong about that.  Not every appointee is a hard core judicial conservative, but Trump is absolutely skimming the cream of the crop of those judicial candidates most conservative lawyers like me would love to see on the Court.  And I say that having read many thousands of court decisions in my time practicing law.

And Heritage Foundation as well - And my primary flag on the play is Jim DeMint stepping down.

I have come to hold all Republican groups as questionable. I could tell you horror stories about NRTL, and others that I was a rainmaker for for many years... I am incredibly jaded, not by mere observation, but because I too have been active, at the regional level on the business/money side of things. I KNOW it's bullcrap. I KNOW most of these societies are puppets, speaking the right things to endlessly feed the beast. Why do you think that nothing has changed in DECADES?

So yeah, I don;t trust a single dang thing that McConnell and the moderates do. To include your judges, regardless of your endorsement, and Tump, who is all cozied up
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #126 on: January 20, 2020, 10:01:40 pm »
No that is not true, or rather, only half true.
Pelosi has not 'indicated' or 'implied' that she wants to do away with public elections, she has said so openly, obviously, and straightforward. She has said that the public cannot be trusted with voting for the 'correct' person. She makes no secret of it. She wants the House and the Senate to determine elections, not the American People. And if she had the power to make that happen, she and her supporters and fellow Democrats, would do it in less than one second.

If the Democrats cannot fix and control public elections, then they would rather simply do away with it and take that power to themselves.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #127 on: January 20, 2020, 10:09:42 pm »
Pelosi has not 'indicated' or 'implied' that she wants to do away with public elections, she has said so openly, obviously, and straightforward. She has said that the public cannot be trusted with voting for the 'correct' person. She makes no secret of it. She wants the House and the Senate to determine elections, not the American People. And if she had the power to make that happen, she and her supporters and fellow Democrats, would do it in less than one second.

If the Democrats cannot fix and control public elections, then they would rather simply do away with it and take that power to themselves.

So what?

If the globalist RNC decides who gets to run, and third parties are a waste of time, your vote is a choice from an approved subset anyway.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #128 on: January 20, 2020, 10:44:37 pm »
I agree with that.  My point is that whatever the standard is for success, it should be the same for both the tea parties and for Trump.  And honestly, I see Trump having accomplished more for conservatism than did the tea parties.  But I do give the tea parties credit for holding the line on some things so that they didn't get worse.  Immigration in particular.  They forced Obama to do things by executive order, and thus made them much easier to reverse later on.
Which is where the Dems have Trump now.

A Handful of TEA party folks in the house is a small voice, not an effective majority, yet they've been heard. Add to those numbers, and you start to have the force needed to enact legislation. Without those numbers there is nothing. As I said, this will take time, but the goal should be to have as conservative as possible presence in the House and Senate, and the White House, too. The goal should be as I have stated, but progress in that direction will be incremental.

To borrow from the enemy playbook, the journey of 1000 miles begins with one step.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #129 on: January 20, 2020, 10:51:43 pm »
So what?

If the globalist RNC decides who gets to run, and third parties are a waste of time, your vote is a choice from an approved subset anyway.
Yea, I see your point. You are right. Doing away with public elections would have no effect at all.
I see the error in my thinking now.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #130 on: January 20, 2020, 11:07:05 pm »
Yea, I see your point. You are right. Doing away with public elections would have no effect at all.
I see the error in my thinking now.

Oh. I get it - We do want to keep up appearances. Thanks for your correction.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #131 on: January 20, 2020, 11:16:36 pm »
Pelosi has not 'indicated' or 'implied' that she wants to do away with public elections, she has said so openly, obviously, and straightforward. She has said that the public cannot be trusted with voting for the 'correct' person. She makes no secret of it. She wants the House and the Senate to determine elections, not the American People. And if she had the power to make that happen, she and her supporters and fellow Democrats, would do it in less than one second.

If the Democrats cannot fix and control public elections, then they would rather simply do away with it and take that power to themselves.

100% correct.  Even after today's demonstration of massive public support for the Constitution, General Assembly Democrats are vowing that it will not dissuade them from expanding their gun grab.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #132 on: January 21, 2020, 05:46:47 am »
Exactly right.   And... funny how the ones that claim they "have no dog in this hunt" and refuse to get out and vote against the gun-grabbing leftists always seem to have a LOT to say about the aftermath of not voting against the radical left.  Stop talking, stop whining and vote next time, dammit!

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #133 on: January 21, 2020, 05:48:40 am »
So what?

If the globalist RNC decides who gets to run, and third parties are a waste of time, your vote is a choice from an approved subset anyway.

They didn't want Trump, did they.  We had a choice and took it.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #134 on: January 21, 2020, 07:50:05 am »
Prayers for our members that went to Virginia to march for their rights. Thank you too !
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #135 on: January 21, 2020, 11:48:51 am »
100% correct.  Even after today's demonstration of massive public support for the Constitution, General Assembly Democrats are vowing that it will not dissuade them from expanding their gun grab.

Overall, a great PR victory for 2A advocates yesterday.  They may not go on record of being dissuaded, but the gun grabbing faction lost the momentum yesterday.  Kudos to the particpants.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #136 on: January 21, 2020, 05:02:33 pm »
They didn't want Trump, did they.  We had a choice and took it.

I don't think that's true.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #137 on: January 21, 2020, 05:07:27 pm »
I don't think that's true.

I think it's true.

He took the Nomination away from sixteen (16) other declared candidates.

By getting more votes than everybody.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #138 on: January 21, 2020, 05:18:27 pm »
I think it's true.

He took the Nomination away from sixteen (16) other declared candidates.

By getting more votes than everybody.

And then got right in bed with the moderates.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #139 on: January 21, 2020, 05:39:32 pm »
Wasn't this thread about Northam?
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« Reply #140 on: January 21, 2020, 05:41:51 pm »
And then got right in bed with the moderates.

A non-sequitur, champ.   Focus.

The people made a choice.   
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #141 on: January 21, 2020, 05:52:36 pm »
A non-sequitur, champ.   Focus.

The people made a choice.

The point being whether the choices are pre-selected... Tumpy sure fell in quick with the moderates.

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« Reply #142 on: January 21, 2020, 06:12:28 pm »
The point being whether the choices are pre-selected... Tumpy sure fell in quick with the moderates.



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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #143 on: January 21, 2020, 06:14:52 pm »
The point being whether the choices are pre-selected... Tumpy sure fell in quick with the moderates.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #144 on: January 22, 2020, 12:52:28 am »
catfish wrote:
"Overall, a great PR victory for 2A advocates yesterday.  They may not go on record of being dissuaded, but the gun grabbing faction lost the momentum yesterday."

No "momentum" was lost.
The democrat-communists STILL HAVE the votes to ram through their anti-gun agenda.
I predict that that's exactly what they will do.

If 100,000 had shown up, it would have made no difference.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #145 on: January 22, 2020, 02:43:40 am »
catfish wrote:
"Overall, a great PR victory for 2A advocates yesterday.  They may not go on record of being dissuaded, but the gun grabbing faction lost the momentum yesterday."

No "momentum" was lost.
The democrat-communists STILL HAVE the votes to ram through their anti-gun agenda.
I predict that that's exactly what they will do.

If 100,000 had shown up, it would have made no difference.
True enough, they have the bit in their teeth. The Dems are pushing on all fronts...

But what it did, was louse up their whole "guns=violence" thingy, tearing blocks out of the very foundation of their whole argument for gun control. It sets the stage for reversal, and in the meantime, I'd wager a lot of arms will be well concealed until such time as they need to be exhumed, or can safely be brought back into the light, as legal possessions in VA.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #146 on: January 22, 2020, 02:48:53 am »
True enough, they have the bit in their teeth. The Dems are pushing on all fronts...

But what it did, was louse up their whole "guns=violence" thingy, tearing blocks out of the very foundation of their whole argument for gun control. It sets the stage for reversal, and in the meantime, I'd wager a lot of arms will be well concealed until such time as they need to be exhumed, or can safely be brought back into the light, as legal possessions in VA.
I read somewhere today that the state legislature has another dozen or so new gun control bills they are getting ready to introduce... it is not over yet..

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #147 on: January 22, 2020, 03:19:58 am »
I read somewhere today that the state legislature has another dozen or so new gun control bills they are getting ready to introduce... it is not over yet..
I am sure Rabid Ralphie and his wolf pack will push this as far as they can.
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