Some of these things have been discussed until some are blue in the face, to then, just have to repeat it.
That doubter's thread would be a good starting point.
I get the frustration.
As said here in the bottom line poll:
...the preoccupation with the death numbers from this virus is folly. It’s been pretty explicitly stated here and elsewhere: the REAL danger of this virus is its potential to overwhelm our healthcare system. When there are no more hospital beds, mask, ventilators, etc, etc...then not only are our healthcare workers in more jeopardy, further exacerbating the problem, but now people will be dying from heart attacks, stroke, infections, broken legs, etc. There is no way to quantify THAT number. Or the price that should be paid for that number. - @Axeslinger
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,395414.msg2173417/boardseen.html#new
And see, this is absolutely correct.
Why get involved in the conversation IF it just goes into the direction where someone points that the average age of one who dies and from this is "81" (and that figure is subject to change obviously), then it's a treadmill and some don't seem to get the above, they just come out and repeat well, look how many die of the flu every year. If that's all the debate is because someone is so hellbent in their opinions, why continue? That's a waste of time.
It's oversimplifying things.
Also, another stat I've seen out there is a carrier will transmit it to how many? Anyway, that is a question, I did see one figure, it wasn't a high figure but I'll bookmark it if I see it again.
While here, unrelated to the current conversation, wow, I didn't know this stuff, interesting:
How Does Coronavirus Reproduce and Can It be Transmitted through Parcels from China?
News 31.01.2020
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Can Coronavirus be Transmitted through Parcels from China?
The answer is – no, that is impossible, as coronaviruses are unstable outside the host.
The first cases of human coronavirus were identified in the mid-1960s. Like any other respiratory disease, the coronaviruses are spread through the air and can be easily destroyed by household detergents and cleaning products.
Despite being fatal, the virus cannot live outside the virus carrier, so there is no opportunity for it to survive on the surface or inside any products shipped by mail.
More: Bonus Blog
The first cases of human coronavirus were identified in the mid-1960s. This must NOT mean the "Covid19" but other coronaviruses that exist. Other coronas have existed. It's
"zoonotic" (?) because it comes from animals?
Zoonotic: Pertaining to a zoonosis: a disease that can be transmitted from animals to people or, more specifically, a disease that normally exists in animals but that can infect humans. There are multitudes of zoonotic diseases.
Some examples include:
anthrax
More: https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=12958