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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1025 on: March 10, 2020, 12:58:33 pm »
Average age of death, 80 years old? That old?  


I have mentioned before, that one of the biggest mysteries of this outbreak thus far, is the lack of fatality demographic info.  We are getting spots and bits here, and there, but as far as I know, nothing official here in the U.S.

One point I will make though.  As far as I know, there have been ZERO COVID-19 fatalities of anyone who is young, and with no pre-existing conditons in the United States.  It may be construed as a conspiracy theory, but I think that this was on purpose to undermine the Trump economy and presidency.  Seems the MSM is trying to start and perpetuate the  hysteria.......needlessly.
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« Reply #1026 on: March 10, 2020, 01:48:06 pm »
Italian Doctor Says Coronavirus Outbreak Like a ‘War Situation’
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/10/italian-doctor-says-coronavirus-outbreak-like-war-situation/
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« Reply #1027 on: March 10, 2020, 01:48:38 pm »
Cyprus main hospital shuts after surgeon diagnosed with coronavirus
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« Reply #1028 on: March 10, 2020, 02:04:10 pm »
Latest stats from https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-us-state-by-state-breakdown


As of Tuesday morning, the novel coronavirus has infected at least 113,672 people across 103 countries, resulting in over 4,000 deaths. In the U.S., at least 36 states plus the District of Columbia have reported confirmed cases of COVID-19, tallying almost 650 illnesses and at least 26 deaths.


CORONAVIRUS: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

Here's a look at the states impacted by COVID-19.

-Washington: 162 cases

-New York: 142 cases

-California: 133 cases (109 non-repatriated)

-Massachusetts: 41 cases

-Oregon: 14 cases

-Florida: 13 cases

-Texas: 12 cases

-Georgia: 11 cases

-New Jersey: 11 cases

-Colorado: 11 cases

-Illinois: 11 cases

-Pennsylvania: 10 cases

-Iowa: 8 cases

-North Carolina: 7 cases

-South Carolina: 7 cases

-Arizona: 5 cases

-Maryland: 5 cases

-Virginia: 5 cases

-Indiana: 4 cases

-New Hampshire: 4 cases

-Tennessee: 4 cases

-Nebraska: 3 cases

-Rhode Island: 3 cases

-Ohio: 3 cases

-Minnesota: 2 case

-Connecticut: 2 case

-Hawaii: 2 case

-Wisconsin: 2 case

-Kansas: 1 case

-Kentucky: 1 case

-Louisiana: 1 case

-Missouri: 1 case

-Nevada: 1 case

-Oklahoma: 1 case

-Utah: 1 case

-Vermont: 1 vase

-D.C.: 1 case
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« Reply #1029 on: March 10, 2020, 02:09:59 pm »
Italian Doctor Says Coronavirus Outbreak Like a ‘War Situation’


Interesting that the mortailty rate is approaching 5% in Italy.  Wish we could get more info on whether this elevated number is more of a function of maybe a more elderly demographic, or is this thing mutating  into a more potent strain.
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« Reply #1030 on: March 10, 2020, 02:11:54 pm »
Italian Doctor Says Coronavirus Outbreak Like a ‘War Situation’
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/03/10/italian-doctor-says-coronavirus-outbreak-like-war-situation/

...The outbreak has also affected other aspects of hospital care, the doctor said, claiming that something like a heart attack under normal circumstances would take minutes to be seen by a doctor but under current conditions could take an hour or longer....

An aspect of this event that is not as obvious.  Increase in deaths of those not infected with the virus but impacted because of the virus.

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« Reply #1031 on: March 10, 2020, 02:14:01 pm »
Coachella Is Preparing to Postpone

Organizers of the Coachella Music and Arts Festival are in talks to postpone the festival amid the growing coronavirus outbreak in the U.S., multiple sources tell Rolling Stone.

The annual festival was originally scheduled to take place over two back-to-back weekends — April 10th, 11th, and 12th, followed by April 17th, 18th, and 19th — at Empire Polo Club in Indio, California, about two hours outside of Los Angeles. A newly reunited Rage Against the Machine was set to headline alongside Travis Scott and Frank Ocean. Coachella and its sister festival Stagecoach together bring in some $1.4 billion in profits each year, and an estimated 250,000 people attend the former each year.

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« Reply #1032 on: March 10, 2020, 02:18:56 pm »
I believe it is just a coincidence.  Climates, socio-economic conditons, public health conditions, governmental action, etc, are better gauges of correlation.
Interesting. CLimate, solar intensity, wind currents, etc. tend to follow along latitude, so it makes me wonder if any of these might be contributing factors. Maybe we're safer up here at 48+ degrees.
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« Reply #1033 on: March 10, 2020, 02:25:53 pm »
Interesting. CLimate, solar intensity, wind currents, etc. tend to follow along latitude, so it makes me wonder if any of these might be contributing factors. Maybe we're safer up here at 48+ degrees.

As a general rule, I have always been a proponent that those who live in colder climes have better odds of having to deal with natural viral epidemics that are spread by wildlife and insects.  Things like mosquito born illnesses as an example.  Very cold climates have a cleansing ability on our environment.
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« Reply #1034 on: March 10, 2020, 02:37:37 pm »
As a general rule, I have always been a proponent that those who live in colder climes have better odds of having to deal with natural viral epidemics that are spread by wildlife and insects.  Things like mosquito born illnesses as an example.  Very cold climates have a cleansing ability on our environment.
I agree. Keeping the pathogens out when winter hits is key, but the only real cure for cockroaches in a building here (brought in by someone who moved in from down south) is to blow out the plumbing, open the windows, and leave the place for a few days when it's -20 or colder out. Germs might get passed around inside buildings, but don't seem to do well outside.

But I have noticed that when mosquito season comes (Lewis and Clark's journals have mention of the viciousness of the critters in this area), they are the most brutal and vicious mosquitoes I have ever run across. Elsewhere, they land and poke around looking for a soft spot, here they come in at a full dive, nose out, and die on watch crystals. It's only a three month season, and it's as if the bugs know it.
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« Reply #1035 on: March 10, 2020, 02:43:43 pm »
Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy! to tape without audiences as coronavirus spreads

by Zachary Halaschak

March 10, 2020 10:29 AM

 
Two iconic television game shows will be studio audience-free as cases of coronavirus continue to grow across the United States.

The Monday decision to suspend audience taping for Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune was made out of an abundance of caution and follows CBS’s suspended production of The Amazing Race, a reality adventure show, last week.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/wheel-of-fortune-and-jeopardy-to-tape-without-audiences-as-coronavirus-spreads
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« Reply #1036 on: March 10, 2020, 02:48:54 pm »
I agree. Keeping the pathogens out when winter hits is key, but the only real cure for cockroaches in a building here (brought in by someone who moved in from down south) is to blow out the plumbing, open the windows, and leave the place for a few days when it's -20 or colder out. Germs might get passed around inside buildings, but don't seem to do well outside.

But I have noticed that when mosquito season comes (Lewis and Clark's journals have mention of the viciousness of the critters in this area), they are the most brutal and vicious mosquitoes I have ever run across. Elsewhere, they land and poke around looking for a soft spot, here they come in at a full dive, nose out, and die on watch crystals. It's only a three month season, and it's as if the bugs know it.

You bring up one of the things I like about living in a desert:  No skeeters. In 40 years I've seen maybe a half-dozen of the little blood-suckers.  We never have a mosquito "season," even living here on the Colorado River.
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« Reply #1037 on: March 10, 2020, 02:50:32 pm »
You bring up one of the things I like about living in a desert:  No skeeters. In 40 years I've seen maybe a half-dozen of the little blood-suckers.  We never have a mosquito "season," even living here on the Colorado River.
One of the things I have always loved about the desert. I have been lucky enough to spend a few early summers there working. Altitude seems to help, too.
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« Reply #1038 on: March 10, 2020, 02:56:23 pm »
You bring up one of the things I like about living in a desert:  No skeeters. In 40 years I've seen maybe a half-dozen of the little blood-suckers.  We never have a mosquito "season," even living here on the Colorado River.

A half dozen?  That's nice.

In my neck of the woods (and in the woods) of SE Texas, at 6:00 p.m. (duskish) You'll probably see a swarm of 20 or 30 on or around you at any given time.  That's why we buy Cutters in industrial quantities.   :cool:

Get within 2 miles of the coast?  There are so many that their hum is the loudest thing you hear out there.  Why beach houses never appealled to me. Well that and hurricanes.
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« Reply #1039 on: March 10, 2020, 03:01:57 pm »
One of the things I have always loved about the desert. I have been lucky enough to spend a few early summers there working. Altitude seems to help, too.

6 months of the mercury climbing >100F every day cooks the little buggers off.  Last year was my first in the hottest city in the country, and I saw three solid weeks of daily temperatures north of 115.  Phoenix (where I was until last year) is the hottest large city in the US, but where I am now on the Nevada border is hotter.
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« Reply #1040 on: March 10, 2020, 03:10:43 pm »
A half dozen?  That's nice.

In my neck of the woods (and in the woods) of SE Texas, at 6:00 p.m. (duskish) You'll probably see a swarm of 20 or 30 on or around you at any given time.  That's why we buy Cutters in industrial quantities.   :cool:

Get within 2 miles of the coast?  There are so many that their hum is the loudest thing you hear out there.  Why beach houses never appealled to me. Well that and hurricanes.
If you are out of protected areas here, the wind can keep them away just fine (a calm day in ND is like snow in Key West--rare), but in the river bottoms, down in the willows, near oxbow lakes and the impounds formed by high water channels, a human is simply bug bait. I seldom wear short sleeves, anyway, almost never shorts, but I have been bitten through the back pocket of a new pair of jeans...

One of the budget items for government in this area is "vector control",  aerial and on the ground distribution of larvacides and aerial spraying of the bugs themselves. I guess that keeps all us miscreants from digging out the malathion and doing it ourselves.
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« Reply #1041 on: March 10, 2020, 03:11:11 pm »
In ways, it almost seems like someone went out to try and infect some CPAC attendees.  :pondering:

Seems that way to me to and I wouldn't be surprised.

Also  -- (here come the flaming arrows) -- how if the corona was bio engineered to kill off the aging population which seems to be a drain on society economically??  The mortality rate increases after 50 and rises for every age group by decade significantly.  The elderly are also more apt to have cardiovascular disease and diabetes which also increases the mortality rate almost 5x.
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« Reply #1042 on: March 10, 2020, 03:14:15 pm »


One of the budget items for government in this area is "vector control",  aerial and on the ground distribution of larvacides and aerial spraying of the bugs themselves. I guess that keeps all us miscreants from digging out the malathion and doing it ourselves.

Our county sprays for mosquitos, but its only good if you are outside within a 100 feet of the road.  Back 400 or 500 feet like I am has no effect what so ever. 
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« Reply #1043 on: March 10, 2020, 03:34:28 pm »
Seems that way to me to and I wouldn't be surprised.

Also  -- (here come the flaming arrows) -- how if the corona was bio engineered to kill off the aging population which seems to be a drain on society economically??  The mortality rate increases after 50 and rises for every age group by decade significantly.  The elderly are also more apt to have cardiovascular disease and diabetes which also increases the mortality rate almost 5x.
They're going to miss hose health care jobs when they are gone....

Really, the older crowd have a few things in common generally.

We are more likely to own our home...
To have money tucked away, even relatively small amounts,
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To remember before all the socialist BS that has especially permeated our government since the 1960s.
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To have seen scams and know that for what it is,
To believe, and to worship, The One from whom all our blessings and Rights come.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1044 on: March 10, 2020, 03:54:43 pm »
CDC announces that toilet paper will prevent and protect people from Coronavirus.
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Australians protecting themselves from covid-19

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« Reply #1046 on: March 10, 2020, 04:06:04 pm »
Seems that way to me to and I wouldn't be surprised.

Also  -- (here come the flaming arrows) -- how if the corona was bio engineered to kill off the aging population which seems to be a drain on society economically??  The mortality rate increases after 50 and rises for every age group by decade significantly.  The elderly are also more apt to have cardiovascular disease and diabetes which also increases the mortality rate almost 5x.

My guess is it wasn't specifically a bio weapon. Just a lab experimenting with various viruses to see what happens when combined and to try different techniques at combining them. And it leaked out by accident.

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« Reply #1047 on: March 10, 2020, 04:08:35 pm »
https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/ohio-state-university-suspends-classroom-instruction-through-march/?fbclid=IwAR1UAkEvH8tuybOvBRDXvmUNf9uypkneFt5yDg6ByCH278BIy1LczXYf6aU

This is RIDICULOUS!  OSU is suspending classes until March 30th.

There are NO cases of COVID 19 in Columbus  - 3 only in Ohio in Cuyahoga County, more than 100 miles away.

Students will not stay at home, they will PARTY.   9999hair out0000

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« Reply #1048 on: March 10, 2020, 04:15:44 pm »
2 week old article but yes, yes, we need to do something about this:
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   Josh Hawley Announces Bill to Reduce U.S. Reliance on Chinese Medical Supply Chain
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February 25, 2020 1:43 PM

Senator Josh Hawley (R., Mo.) announced on Tuesday that he will introduce a bill that would diversify the U.S. medical supply chain in order to reduce reliance on Chinese products.

“If the Coronavirus crisis makes anything clear, it’s that we need to stop relying on China for our critical medical supply chains,” Hawley wrote on Twitter. “I will introduce legislation this week to jump start that effort.”

On Monday, Hawley sent a letter to Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn asking how the agency plans to deal with a potential medical supply shortage caused by the onset of the coronavirus in China.

More at: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/josh-hawley-announces-bill-to-reduce-u-s-reliance-on-chinese-medical-supply-chain/

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« Reply #1049 on: March 10, 2020, 04:16:30 pm »
https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/ohio-state-university-suspends-classroom-instruction-through-march/?fbclid=IwAR1UAkEvH8tuybOvBRDXvmUNf9uypkneFt5yDg6ByCH278BIy1LczXYf6aU

This is RIDICULOUS!  OSU is suspending classes until March 30th.

There are NO cases of COVID 19 in Columbus  - 3 only in Ohio in Cuyahoga County, more than 100 miles away.

Students will not stay at home, they will PARTY.   9999hair out0000
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