Author Topic: Rand Paul: 'Diplomacy is dead now in the Middle East with Iran' after Soleimani killing  (Read 2042 times)

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Offline Absalom

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Coupla reflections.
* Paul is a self-labeled Libertarian, as such a leftist. They emerged during the
French Enlightenment as less radical than Rousseau and his cronies;
yet they exalted Rights above all while ignoring its sibling, Responsibilities!
Utter the word Rights within earshot of Paul and get out of his way; a windbag!
* The dark clouds parted over Iran at the end of the Great War w/the emergence
of General Reza Pahlavi followed by his son Mohammed Shah, as rulers till 1979.
Sadly for them and the people of Iran, our POTUS then was the monumental
jackass, named Jimmy Carter and we can clearly trace the fiasco we call our
"Middle Eastern Policy" to the decisions/non-decisions of this buffoon; starting
by his forcing the abdication of Moh'd Pahlavi resulting in the emergence and rule
of Ayatollah Khomeini!!!!
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Diplomacy with Iran...did I miss something?  Unless the USA is shoveling pallets of billions in dollars to the murderous regime of Iran, they do not hear a single word.

Paul the Putz is clueless.  The only thing peaceful Iranians understand is brutal honesty in the form of someone doing exactly what Trump did.  Iran wants a war over the death of this peaceful maggot, bring it on.

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The only thing peaceful Iranians understand is brutal honesty in the form of someone doing exactly what Trump did.
My understanding of the Middle Eastern/Muslim mentality is that  strength is the only thing they'll respect. We have to show them we're the tough guy and have the means to back it up, even if it offends our delicate sensibilities over the value of diplomacy.
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The above is exactly what I think.  An attack will happen in the United States.
Killing this general would not stop an already planned attack on our people over there.  I do not think there was any planned attack, but saying it, gave Trump what he wanted to kill another bad guy.  He wants to kill individuals so he can take credit as the big guy who kills other big guys, making him the biggest guy who gets applause for killing guys.  Malignant Narcissism.
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You don't think, you react, and you always react the same tired way.  Trump will not get our troops into a sand war, but he will take out dangerous people with targeted strikes.  You and your constant posting of ignorance are one of the reasons I cannot post here.
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@Emjay

You said, "You don't think, you react, and you always react the same tired way.  Trump will not get our troops into a sand war, but he will take out dangerous people with targeted strikes.  You and your constant posting of ignorance are one of the reasons I cannot post here."

You know I do not reply to your posts about me.  I am this time to tell you to put me on "Ignore", then you will not know what I post.  However, if you are coming here mainly to personally attack me, you are upsetting yourself, not me.  I do notice you personally attack numerous people trying to start a personal word fight.  If you would post to the subject and leave out personal attacking, perhaps you would happier here.  It is up to you what you do with your fingers on a keyboard.

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This why I will never support any Paul for President.
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Ron Paul lived three doors down the street from me many years ago when he was still practicing medicine and Rand was still just a pup.  (His signature is on my youngest son's birth certificate)  and I have had a great many conversations with him over the years.  IMHO Ron is a financial genius that doesn't know spit about foreign policy and I have told him so directly.  Apples don't fall far from the tree and neither Ron nor Rand will ever get a vote from me for President.
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My understanding of the Middle Eastern/Muslim mentality is that  strength is the only thing they'll respect. We have to show them we're the tough guy and have the means to back it up, even if it offends our delicate sensibilities over the value of diplomacy.

That's because Islam preaches that @mountaineer.
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With all the talk about diplomacy lately, has diplomacy ever convinced a dictatorships to change?
Venezuela?  Russia?  Iran?  China? North Korea? Cuba?

Yes, we use diplomacy all the time with Nations of Conscience or things like hostage swaps etc...
I don't remember any changes that did not require force...

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Ron Paul lived three doors down the street from me many years ago when he was still practicing medicine and Rand was still just a pup.  (His signature is on my youngest son's birth certificate)  and I have had a great many conversations with him over the years.  IMHO Ron is a financial genius that doesn't know spit about foreign policy and I have told him so directly.  Apples don't fall far from the tree and neither Ron nor Rand will ever get a vote from me for President.

Well .... I am not ashamed to admit I voted for Ron over Johnny.  I really admire the man and found his speeches to be uplifting.  Times are sure different now, and I agree, Rand's foreign policy is questionable though I really doubt he'd run again.  Too much mud slinging coming from the leftists.
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