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Scrubbed for today....
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“FAA is basically giving SpaceX a hard time with the licensing because of the engine swap, it is technically a new vehicle. “

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Relayed from Musk:

FAA Space Division has a fundamentally broken regulatory structure.

Their rules are set up for a handful of expendable rocket launches per year from a few governmental facilities.

Under those rules humanity will never get to Mars.

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The FAA is under new management and has determined this launch could be progress for The United States and therefore must be stopped until China can surpass our technology.

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Did Musk really want to test SN9 in 20 MPH winds?

Yes, maybe Biden's FAA decided to go into full bureaucratic CYA mode, too, but I'm not sure about the true cause of today's mission scrub.  :shrug:
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The wind is currently 15mph. It would surely be more calm around 3 or 4. I can't believe that wind was an issue.

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The wind is currently 15mph. It would surely be more calm around 3 or 4. I can't believe that wind was an issue.

From what I saw at the video, it was the FAA's call, and I thought it was because of the wind...  :shrug:
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No comment about why the FAA shut down the test.


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Unlike its aircraft division, which is fine, the FAA space division has a fundamentally broken regulatory structure.

Their rules are meant for a handful of expendable launches per year from a few government facilities. Under those rules, humanity will never get to Mars.

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SN9 is Venting.

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 T-0 is now roughly estimated to be in 30 to 45 minutes. No official SpaceX link.

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Engine Chill.

Launch can be any moment.

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Statement from FAA just now.

 re the SpaceX SN9 flight

"We will continue working with SpaceX  to resolve outstanding Safety Issues before we approve next test flight."

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Another plane approaching the launch site.  Make that multiple planes.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2021, 09:25:39 pm by Elderberry »

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Engine Chill.

Launch can be any moment.

What?
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If it gets launched, will we be treated to these announcers giggling like little kids this time?  Sounds like the same guys.
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Currently aircraft in area hold.

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FAA is now saying  SpaceX's license indicates IF there was an  an anomaly either on the SN8 flight or the SN9 tip over it must be disclosed otherwise no Flying.

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FAA is now saying  SpaceX's license indicates IF there was an  an anomaly either on the SN8 flight or the SN9 tip over it must be disclosed otherwise no Flying.

Meanwhile, it appears the FAA pulled the NOTAM...otherwise there would be no encroaching flights.
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Detanking.

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Detanking.
Ughhhh!!!  I watched all day.  Dang bureaucrats!


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SpaceX, Elon Musk clash with the FAA over Starship launch license delays

TESLARATI by Eric Ralph 1/28/2021

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-faa-clash-starship-launch-license-delays/

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In a bizarre series of events, SpaceX and CEO Elon Musk spent the day visibly clashing with the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) over Starship launch licensing delays.

Just six weeks ago, Starship serial number 8 (SN8) nearly aced the SpaceX’s first FAA-approved high-altitude launch debut out of South Texas, demonstrating the rocket’s ability to safely launch to high altitudes and return back to earth. Though a pressurization issue ultimately caused SN8 to lose thrust and impact the ground before it could gently touch down, the Starship made it a full six and a half minutes into a roughly seven-minute test flight before anything went wrong – a degree of success far greater than almost anyone at SpaceX confidently expected.

In the leadup to a bizarre last-minute abort of what may or may not have been Starship SN9’s first real launch attempt, Musk had some strong words for the FAA’s space division, deeming its regulatory structure “fundamentally broken” and a regime under which “humanity will never get to Mars.” Not long after that and in the midst of a great deal of uncertainty and mixed messages about the status of the rocket’s FAA launch license, SpaceX appeared to begin loading Starship SN9 with liquid oxygen and methane propellant.

Because a launch flow is virtually indistinguishable – aside from paperwork – from the process of preparing a Starship for a wet dress rehearsal (WDR) or Raptor engine static fire, it’s impossible to know if SpaceX was attempting to hedge its bets or simply taking advantage of established readiness to perform additional ground tests.

incredibly weird given that SN9 is a virtually identical copy of Starship SN8, which the FAA approved to fly an identical trajectory like six weeks ago. https://t.co/DQCxYdA5rV
— Eric Ralph (@13ericralph31) January 28, 2021

It was pretty clear they didn't have FAA authorization. My assumption is that SpaceX expected to obtain it at some point today.
— Eric Berger (@SciGuySpace) January 28, 2021

According to vague but official comments from the FAA provided to Washington Post reporter Christian Davenport, the licensing issue “is related to SN9,” which could imply a vehicle hardware or software issue but could just as easily be true for almost anything even tangentially related to the launch (range, ground systems, politics, semi-arbitrary risk analysis, etc).

Ultimately, perhaps just a minute or less away from a possible static fire or launch, SpaceX aborted Starship SN9’s mysterious January 28th test and gradually detanked the rocket over the next few hours.

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I think the FAA was trying to make some last minute hay over the "Ilene" incident....
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I think the FAA was trying to make some last minute hay over the "Ilene" incident....
I think it's because Musk criticized the tech stock darlings and this was payback.

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No FAA approval yet. Launch window Today closes at 2PM.

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I think it's because Musk criticized the tech stock darlings and this was payback.

My thoughts too.  Strange all the sudden, FAA wants to get involved.
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