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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1000 on: December 02, 2023, 12:48:27 am »
Amazon buys SpaceX rocket launches for Kuiper satellite internet project

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  •   Amazon bought three rocket launches from SpaceX for its Project Kuiper internet satellites, the tech giant announced on Friday.

•   The move is a surprise from Amazon, given the company’s Kuiper system aims to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink in the satellite broadband market.

•   SpaceX, the most active rocket operator in the world, has been adamant that it will launch Starlink competitors on its rockets.


Amazon bought three rocket launches from SpaceX for its Project Kuiper internet satellites, the tech giant announced on Friday.

The move is a surprise from Amazon, given the company’s Kuiper system aims to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink in the satellite broadband market. Both Starlink and Kuiper represent multibillion-dollar efforts to create networks with thousands of satellites in orbit to serve customers ranging from consumers to governments.

Amazon previously made a blockbuster order for launches from three of SpaceX’s top rocket rivals, including Jeff Bezos’ Blue Origin — a decision which came under scrutiny in a shareholder lawsuit against Amazon earlier this year that alleged Bezos’ rivalry with fellow billionaire Musk led to snubbing SpaceX.

More: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/01/amazon-buys-spacex-rocket-launches-for-kuiper-satellite-internet-project.html
Seems to me I said this would happen, and that's three launches ...so far.

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« Reply #1001 on: December 02, 2023, 02:48:35 am »
Amazon adds Falcon 9 to multi-billion-dollar Project Kuiper launch campaign

Space News by Jason Rainbow December 1, 2023

TAMPA, Fla. — Amazon has signed a contract with SpaceX to launch an unspecified number of satellites for its Project Kuiper broadband constellation on three Falcon 9 rockets from mid-2025.

The deal adds extra capacity to a multi-billion-dollar launch arrangement already in place for deploying most of the constellation’s more than 3,200 satellites with United Launch Alliance (ULA), Arianespace, and Blue Origin.

It comes months after a pension fund filed a suit against Amazon’s board of directors, claiming they “acted in bad faith” in approving the bulk of Kuiper launches to unproven rockets being developed by these three companies without considering SpaceX.

Amazon has ordered eight Atlas 5 and 38 Vulcan rockets from ULA, 17 Ariane 6 launches from Arianespace, and up to 27 New Glenn missions from Blue Origin. Of these, only the Atlas 5 is currently operational.

More: https://spacenews.com/amazon-adds-falcon-9-to-multi-billion-dollar-project-kuiper-launch-campaign/

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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1002 on: December 04, 2023, 10:39:03 pm »
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Amazon calls on SpaceX for HELP! All blame Jeff & Blue Origin...


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« Reply #1003 on: December 04, 2023, 11:29:26 pm »
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« Reply #1004 on: December 07, 2023, 01:32:20 am »
Is NASA WRONG Why NASA still need Blue Origin's Moon lander

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Is NASA WRONG Why NASA still need Blue Origin's Moon lander

On November 18th, SpaceX's Starship completed its awe-inspiring test, considered a major leap forward in its attempt to reach orbit.

Following this success, the company will enter the preparation phase for Nasa's Artemis 3 mission scheduled in December 2025 including testing in-orbit refueling and operating the Starship lunar lander.

According to Nasa, SpaceX must complete at least 15 spacecraft launches. Thus, the space agency is also concerned that the amount of work needed to perfect the launch system and the high frequency of launches required for the program could delay the mission.

Perhaps, this prompted the space agency to find one more supplier, Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin, to develop a backup lunar lander.

But is Nasa's action necessary?


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« Reply #1005 on: December 13, 2023, 01:11:39 pm »
Blue Origin to launch space flights for first time since rocket explosion

The National News by Sarwat Nasir 12/13/2023

The first flight is expected to take off on December 18

Blue Origin, the company owned by billionaire Jeff Bezos, is set to carry out its first space flight since a rocket exploded during an uncrewed mission in 2022.

A launch window is available next week, starting on December 18, the company said.

Blue Origin's New Shepard rocket will blast off from a West Texas desert, carrying research work into suborbital space.

"We’re targeting a launch window that opens on December 18 for our next New Shepard payload mission," the company posted on X, formerly known as Twitter, on Tuesday.

"NS-24 will carry 33 science and research payloads as well as 38,000 @clubforfuture postcards to space."

Rocket failure

The explosion of the NS-23 mission last September was blamed on an engine nozzle failure that caused the rocket to overheat.

The mission was aborted mid-flight, only one minute into launch.

But the crew capsule escape system worked as it should, bringing the payloads back to ground with a parachute-assisted landing.

More: https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/us-news/2023/12/13/blue-origin-to-launch-space-flights-for-first-time-since-rocket-explosion/

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Encouraging Disenchantment: Why is Blue Origin so Slow?

https://www.illdefined.space/encouraging-disenchantment-why-is-blue-origin-so-slow/

Someone asked me last week why Blue Origin is moving so slowly in its development of New Glenn. My latest Astralytical article, “Blue Moon’s 2025 Moon Landing: Nope” had instigated the question. I noted in that article that a reason why Blue Origin won’t be able to land its lander on the moon in 2025 is because its motto, “Gradatim Ferociter,” or, step by step, ferociously, shapes its culture. That cultural element was part of my answer to the question.

I provided a few other reasons for Blue Origin’s plodding, such as Bob Smith, the person Jeff Bezos chose to run his company for a while, and the company’s challenges with the engine that will power New Glenn’s first stage, the BE-4. None of these are reasons to believe that the company can’t deliver on New Glenn's promise. It’s just that Blue Origin hasn’t delivered yet and probably won’t deliver as advertised.
The Hope for Something Better

It’s incredibly disappointing that Blue Origin has yet to launch New Glenn. The company has been working on the launch vehicle for about eight years, pushing its projected launch date back a few times. The most recent launch date Blue Origin has offered is sometime in 2024. Until its launch, New Glenn remains in the company of other ghost rockets, despite Blue Origin’s demonstration of its ability to roll out and prop up a painted tube (with no engines).

Still…the promotions highlighting New Glenn’s capabilities are compelling.

Blue Origin markets New Glenn as a capable rocket that can lift 45 metric tons to low Earth orbit (LEO) and 13 to geosynchronous transfer orbit. The rocket’s LEO upmass is almost double ULA’s Delta IV Heavy’s (28.4 metric tons) but less than the Falcon Heavy’s upmass of nearly 64. Still, New Glenn’s fairing can hold more unwieldy payloads than any current operational rockets. The company notes that New Glenn’s first stage will be reusable, making Blue Origin one of the few potential SpaceX competitors that will (eventually) field a reusable rocket.

This was the other exciting aspect of New Glenn–it should allow Blue Origin to compete against SpaceX and its Falcon 9. No other company–ULA, Arianespace, Samara, etc.- has been as focused on fielding a rocket that would give the Falcon 9 a run for its money. On the other hand, New Glenn might–if Blue Origin can successfully launch the thing. That brings us back to the question (and my guesses) as to why Blue Origin seems to be dithering with its New Glenn development efforts.

I mentioned culture as part of the answer previously; however, it’s not just that Blue Origin’s motto shapes its culture to be slow. It’s also an advertisement for government business.
Mistaking Slow For Meticulousness

Over four years ago, I wrote “Blue Origin: Old Space in New Space Clothing.” In it, I observed that Blue Origin’s business focus is defined by its motto:

…Blue Origin hews to a different ethos, captured in its motto “Gradatim Ferociter” (step by step ferociously). First, let’s just acknowledge that this is the type of mission statement risk-averse organizations and managers love. That motto is pure, sweet Kool-Aid designed for direct-injection into the U.S. government’s mission assurance jugular. It assures the risk-averse of something they are already used to--trading time for mission accomplishment (hoping that the time will be spent to increase the mission’s chances).

The company’s seeming deliberateness is also an advertisement that government customers, such as NASA and the Department of Defense, seek out. Most of the time, these customers aren’t looking for a fast way to launch their spacecraft, merely one that won’t blow up. They have expensive satellites that took years to build, so it’s a good look (and a posterior covering) for them to choose a company that appears to equal their pacing–even if it has never launched a rocket.

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Amazon: First operational launch of Kuiper satellites delayed

Behind the Black by Robert Zimmerman 4/12/2024

Though Amazon’s CEO Andy Jassy, in his annual letter to shareholders yesterday, touted the Kuiper internet constellation’s profit potential, he also implied that the planned first launch of operational satellites has been delayed.

    Today, Jassy put a slightly different spin on that schedule. “We’re on track to launch our first production satellites in 2024,” he wrote in his letter. “We’ve still got a long way to go, but are encouraged by our progress.”

Later in a television interview Jassy was more blunt, stating that the first operational satellites will not be ready until “the second half of ’24”, with the service becoming available “in the next year or so.”

More: https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/amazon-first-operational-launch-of-kuiper-satellites-delayed/

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Blue Origin returns crew flights to New Shepard with NS-25 mission

NSF by Adrian Beil May 19, 2024

Blue Origin succesfully returned to crewed flight with its New Shepard vehicle. The company performed the launch of the seventh human flight of the suborbital vehicle with the designated mission name “NS-25.” The launch window opened at 8:30 AM CDT (13:30 UTC) however, after some additional time needed for checkouts, final liftoff happened  one hour and six minutes after the opening of the window, at 9:36 AM CDT.

The flight was a success, and the only note during the flight was the fail of deployment of one of the three parachutes of the capsule. This is in the design margin of the capsule, and did not result in problems.

The crew

The six-person crew included Mason Angel, Sylvain Chiron, Kenneth L. Hess, Carol Schaller, Gopi Thotakura, and former Air Force Captain and previous astronaut candidate Ed Dwight. The six raised the number of people flown on New Shepard from 31 to 37.

More: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2024/05/ns-25/

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Blue Origin returns crew flights to New Shepard with NS-25 mission

NSF by Adrian Beil May 19, 2024

Blue Origin succesfully returned to crewed flight with its New Shepard vehicle. The company performed the launch of the seventh human flight of the suborbital vehicle with the designated mission name “NS-25.” The launch window opened at 8:30 AM CDT (13:30 UTC) however, after some additional time needed for checkouts, final liftoff happened  one hour and six minutes after the opening of the window, at 9:36 AM CDT.

The flight was a success, and the only note during the flight was the fail of deployment of one of the three parachutes of the capsule. This is in the design margin of the capsule, and did not result in problems.

The crew

The six-person crew included Mason Angel, Sylvain Chiron, Kenneth L. Hess, Carol Schaller, Gopi Thotakura, and former Air Force Captain and previous astronaut candidate Ed Dwight. The six raised the number of people flown on New Shepard from 31 to 37.

More: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2024/05/ns-25/
The flight was a success, and the only note during the flight was the fail of deployment of one of the three parachutes of the capsule. This is in the design margin of the capsule, and did not result in problems.

 Now that'll instill confidence in future ticket buyers! Watch out Musk :silly: :silly: :silly:

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Ahead of October Launch, Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin Rocket Explodes During Testing
The company is tripping over its own feet to meet a tight NASA deadline.


The Byte by Victor Tangermann 8/22/2024

Mission Glennpossible

Jeff Bezos' rocket venture Blue Origin is tripping over its own feet as it races to meet an October deadline.

The company is still hoping to have its New Glenn orbital rocket ready for NASA's EscaPADE mission, which is scheduled to launch later this year, taking advantage of a rare alignment of the Earth and Mars to launch two spacecraft toward the Red Planet.

The next time the two planets will be this close won't occur for another two years.

But as Bloomberg reports, Blue Origin is facing major setbacks in the development of the 321-foot rocket. According to the report, an upper rocket portion failed during stress testing and exploded during testing, and a separate portion imploded like a soda can after engineers failed to install the necessary pressure-release valves before moving it from a humid exterior hangar into an air-conditioned space.

More: https://futurism.com/the-byte/jeff-bezos-blue-origin-rocket-explodes-testing

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Two Blue Origin New Glenn rocket stages wrecked in factory mishaps! Will this delay NASA missions?

The Angry Astronaut 8/22/24

Blue Orgin didn't admit to these mishaps, of course, but every organization has its leaks!

What impact will this have on NASA Artemis and HLS?  Will we ever get transparency from Jeff Bezos?


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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1012 on: September 09, 2024, 02:53:40 pm »
NASA delays ESCAPADE Mars launch on Blue Origin's giant New Glenn rocket to 2025 to avoid potential cost overruns

The Mars launch, previously scheduled for Oct. 13, will now take place in spring of 2025 at the earliest.

Blue Origin's huge New Glenn rocket won't debut next month after all.

New Glenn, the company's partially reusable new heavy lifter, had been scheduled to launch NASA's twin ESCAPADE Mars probes from Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida during an eight-day window that opens on Oct. 13. But that's no longer the plan.

"The agency's decision to stand down was based on a review of launch preparations and discussions with Blue Origin, the Federal Aviation Administration and Space Launch Delta 45 Range Safety Organization, as well as NASA's Launch Services Program and Science Mission Directorate," NASA officials wrote in an update today (Sept. 6).

"The decision was made to avoid significant cost, schedule and technical challenges associated with potentially removing fuel from the spacecraft in the event of a launch delay, which could be caused by a number of factors," they added.

NASA and Blue Origin are discussing new liftoff dates for ESCAPADE, with the earliest possible option now falling in spring of 2025, according to the update. That seems puzzlingly soon, given that launch windows for Mars missions come along just once every 26 months. (That's the interval on which Earth and the Red Planet align to allow efficient deep-space travel.)

More: https://www.space.com/nasa-delays-escapade-mars-launch-on-blue-origin-new-glenn-rocket-2025


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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1013 on: September 09, 2024, 02:55:28 pm »
NASA delays ESCAPADE Mars launch on Blue Origin's giant New Glenn rocket to
NASA and Blue Origin are discussing new liftoff dates for ESCAPADE, with the earliest possible option now falling in spring of 2025, according to the update. That seems puzzlingly soon, given that launch windows for Mars missions come along just once every 26 months. (That's the interval on which Earth and the Red Planet align to allow efficient deep-space travel.)



Show of hands of anyone who would want to ride a rocket that sounds like "ESCAPE".  :silly:
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« Reply #1014 on: September 09, 2024, 03:07:14 pm »
Show of hands of anyone who would want to ride a rocket that sounds like "ESCAPE".  :silly:

EscaPADE is not a rocket. Its 2 small payloads destined to study Mars, if Blue Origin can ever take them to orbit Mars.

https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/spacecraft/display.action?id=ESCAPADE

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« Reply #1015 on: September 09, 2024, 03:16:09 pm »
EscaPADE is not a rocket. Its 2 small payloads destined to study Mars, if Blue Origin can ever take them to orbit Mars.

https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/spacecraft/display.action?id=ESCAPADE

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Okay, a show of hands of anyone who wants anything to do with anything that implies rocketry and "escape"

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« Reply #1016 on: September 09, 2024, 09:54:14 pm »
New Glenn slips on Blue Ring

Blue Origin will continue to prepare the first New Glenn for launch as planned, yet will instead carry Blue Ring technology. The company also said it would move the second New Glenn flight, originally scheduled for December, into November.

Blue Ring is a proposed orbital tug spacecraft capable of providing data relay and refueling services and hosting payloads of up to 3,000 kg.

Committing the first launch of a new rocket to a mission with a specific window always seemed a bit impractical, and NASA's decision has allowed for some flexibility at Blue Origin.

The delay might also be a short one; while the most efficient transfer window to Mars opens roughly every two years, engineers are mulling over an alternative trajectory that would have ESCAPADE launching in the (northern hemisphere) Spring of 2025, although it has yet to be confirmed what that would do the ESCAPADE's arrival date.

Consisting of twin spacecraft, the ESCAPADE mission is to study how the solar wind interacts with Mars’ magnetic environment.

Nicky Fox, associate administrator for science at NASA Headquarters in Washington, said, "We're committed to seeing ESCAPADE safely into space, and I look forward to seeing it off the ground and on its trip to Mars." ®

https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/09/blue_origin_escapade_launhc_called_off/

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« Reply #1017 on: September 09, 2024, 10:12:03 pm »
No Mars Mission for Blue Origin! NASA delays ESCAPADE due to New Glenn issues!

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It turns out that Blue Orgin's moment of truth isn't coming next month after all.  And the NASA ESCAPADE mission?
Well, it's been delayed even longer.


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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1018 on: September 17, 2024, 12:36:38 am »
Musk's Reaction to Blue Origin's New Glenn Explosion During Test

Space MindsX 9/16/2024

Blue Origin’s New Glenn Rocket Explosion: An Unexpected Setback The space community was abuzz with excitement for Blue Origin’s New Glenn launch, but that anticipation quickly turned to disappointment as the rocket exploded during its test. This explosion raises serious questions, especially since Blue Origin has invested years and billions of dollars to perfect this ambitious project. 🌌

In this video, we’ll explore:

* The details behind the New Glenn rocket's explosion
* Blue Origin's history of failed launches and technical issues 🚀
* The connection between the 2021 delay and the 2024 explosion
* What might have caused the rocket's failure 🔍
* How Elon Musk, the CEO of SpaceX, reacted to this incident 💬

Join us as we break down the facts and delve into the ongoing competition between Blue Origin and SpaceX. You won't want to miss this analysis of what this explosion means for the future of space exploration.


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Blue Origin Is Being Suspiciously Vague About Its Rocket Launch Yesterday

They're being weirdly stingy with details.

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After some minor setbacks, Blue Origin finally launched its latest model of a New Shepard spacecraft on Wednesday.

The mission, NS-27, lifted off around 11:30 AM in West Texas, marking the debut flight of the second New Shepard vehicle designed to carry human passengers high off the Earth but not into orbit, though for this test it was uncrewed.

Blue Origin, however, has been uncharacteristically stingy with some of the details surrounding the launch. As SpaceNews reports, the Jeff Bezos-owned company didn't release flight statistics to the public as it normally does.

Furthermore, the vehicle appeared to have reached an altitude nearly two miles short of what it typically achieves, based on the launch's livestream. Blue Origin confirmed to SpaceNews that the spacecraft's capsule hit an altitudinal peak of 63.6 miles — whereas a previous flight reached 65.4 miles.

More: https://futurism.com/the-byte/blue-origin-vague-rocket-launch

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Easy two word synopsis? 

Go Boom

I give Bezos 2-3 years in this race.  He's way over his head.
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