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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1000 on: December 02, 2023, 12:48:27 am »
Amazon buys SpaceX rocket launches for Kuiper satellite internet project

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  •   Amazon bought three rocket launches from SpaceX for its Project Kuiper internet satellites, the tech giant announced on Friday.

•   The move is a surprise from Amazon, given the company’s Kuiper system aims to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink in the satellite broadband market.

•   SpaceX, the most active rocket operator in the world, has been adamant that it will launch Starlink competitors on its rockets.


Amazon bought three rocket launches from SpaceX for its Project Kuiper internet satellites, the tech giant announced on Friday.

The move is a surprise from Amazon, given the company’s Kuiper system aims to compete with Elon Musk’s Starlink in the satellite broadband market. Both Starlink and Kuiper represent multibillion-dollar efforts to create networks with thousands of satellites in orbit to serve customers ranging from consumers to governments.

Amazon previously made a blockbuster order for launches from three of SpaceX’s top rocket rivals, including Jeff Bezos’ Blue Origin — a decision which came under scrutiny in a shareholder lawsuit against Amazon earlier this year that alleged Bezos’ rivalry with fellow billionaire Musk led to snubbing SpaceX.

More: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/01/amazon-buys-spacex-rocket-launches-for-kuiper-satellite-internet-project.html
Seems to me I said this would happen, and that's three launches ...so far.

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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1001 on: December 02, 2023, 02:48:35 am »
Amazon adds Falcon 9 to multi-billion-dollar Project Kuiper launch campaign

Space News by Jason Rainbow December 1, 2023

TAMPA, Fla. — Amazon has signed a contract with SpaceX to launch an unspecified number of satellites for its Project Kuiper broadband constellation on three Falcon 9 rockets from mid-2025.

The deal adds extra capacity to a multi-billion-dollar launch arrangement already in place for deploying most of the constellation’s more than 3,200 satellites with United Launch Alliance (ULA), Arianespace, and Blue Origin.

It comes months after a pension fund filed a suit against Amazon’s board of directors, claiming they “acted in bad faith” in approving the bulk of Kuiper launches to unproven rockets being developed by these three companies without considering SpaceX.

Amazon has ordered eight Atlas 5 and 38 Vulcan rockets from ULA, 17 Ariane 6 launches from Arianespace, and up to 27 New Glenn missions from Blue Origin. Of these, only the Atlas 5 is currently operational.

More: https://spacenews.com/amazon-adds-falcon-9-to-multi-billion-dollar-project-kuiper-launch-campaign/

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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1002 on: December 04, 2023, 10:39:03 pm »
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Amazon calls on SpaceX for HELP! All blame Jeff & Blue Origin...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv4mVCtf_Lk


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« Reply #1003 on: December 04, 2023, 11:29:26 pm »
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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1004 on: December 07, 2023, 01:32:20 am »
Is NASA WRONG Why NASA still need Blue Origin's Moon lander

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Is NASA WRONG Why NASA still need Blue Origin's Moon lander

On November 18th, SpaceX's Starship completed its awe-inspiring test, considered a major leap forward in its attempt to reach orbit.

Following this success, the company will enter the preparation phase for Nasa's Artemis 3 mission scheduled in December 2025 including testing in-orbit refueling and operating the Starship lunar lander.

According to Nasa, SpaceX must complete at least 15 spacecraft launches. Thus, the space agency is also concerned that the amount of work needed to perfect the launch system and the high frequency of launches required for the program could delay the mission.

Perhaps, this prompted the space agency to find one more supplier, Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin, to develop a backup lunar lander.

But is Nasa's action necessary?


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Re: SpaceX, Blue Origin, Virigin Galactic and other Private Space Companies Thread
« Reply #1005 on: December 13, 2023, 01:11:39 pm »
Blue Origin to launch space flights for first time since rocket explosion

The National News by Sarwat Nasir 12/13/2023

The first flight is expected to take off on December 18

Blue Origin, the company owned by billionaire Jeff Bezos, is set to carry out its first space flight since a rocket exploded during an uncrewed mission in 2022.

A launch window is available next week, starting on December 18, the company said.

Blue Origin's New Shepard rocket will blast off from a West Texas desert, carrying research work into suborbital space.

"We’re targeting a launch window that opens on December 18 for our next New Shepard payload mission," the company posted on X, formerly known as Twitter, on Tuesday.

"NS-24 will carry 33 science and research payloads as well as 38,000 @clubforfuture postcards to space."

Rocket failure

The explosion of the NS-23 mission last September was blamed on an engine nozzle failure that caused the rocket to overheat.

The mission was aborted mid-flight, only one minute into launch.

But the crew capsule escape system worked as it should, bringing the payloads back to ground with a parachute-assisted landing.

More: https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/us-news/2023/12/13/blue-origin-to-launch-space-flights-for-first-time-since-rocket-explosion/

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Encouraging Disenchantment: Why is Blue Origin so Slow?

https://www.illdefined.space/encouraging-disenchantment-why-is-blue-origin-so-slow/

Someone asked me last week why Blue Origin is moving so slowly in its development of New Glenn. My latest Astralytical article, “Blue Moon’s 2025 Moon Landing: Nope” had instigated the question. I noted in that article that a reason why Blue Origin won’t be able to land its lander on the moon in 2025 is because its motto, “Gradatim Ferociter,” or, step by step, ferociously, shapes its culture. That cultural element was part of my answer to the question.

I provided a few other reasons for Blue Origin’s plodding, such as Bob Smith, the person Jeff Bezos chose to run his company for a while, and the company’s challenges with the engine that will power New Glenn’s first stage, the BE-4. None of these are reasons to believe that the company can’t deliver on New Glenn's promise. It’s just that Blue Origin hasn’t delivered yet and probably won’t deliver as advertised.
The Hope for Something Better

It’s incredibly disappointing that Blue Origin has yet to launch New Glenn. The company has been working on the launch vehicle for about eight years, pushing its projected launch date back a few times. The most recent launch date Blue Origin has offered is sometime in 2024. Until its launch, New Glenn remains in the company of other ghost rockets, despite Blue Origin’s demonstration of its ability to roll out and prop up a painted tube (with no engines).

Still…the promotions highlighting New Glenn’s capabilities are compelling.

Blue Origin markets New Glenn as a capable rocket that can lift 45 metric tons to low Earth orbit (LEO) and 13 to geosynchronous transfer orbit. The rocket’s LEO upmass is almost double ULA’s Delta IV Heavy’s (28.4 metric tons) but less than the Falcon Heavy’s upmass of nearly 64. Still, New Glenn’s fairing can hold more unwieldy payloads than any current operational rockets. The company notes that New Glenn’s first stage will be reusable, making Blue Origin one of the few potential SpaceX competitors that will (eventually) field a reusable rocket.

This was the other exciting aspect of New Glenn–it should allow Blue Origin to compete against SpaceX and its Falcon 9. No other company–ULA, Arianespace, Samara, etc.- has been as focused on fielding a rocket that would give the Falcon 9 a run for its money. On the other hand, New Glenn might–if Blue Origin can successfully launch the thing. That brings us back to the question (and my guesses) as to why Blue Origin seems to be dithering with its New Glenn development efforts.

I mentioned culture as part of the answer previously; however, it’s not just that Blue Origin’s motto shapes its culture to be slow. It’s also an advertisement for government business.
Mistaking Slow For Meticulousness

Over four years ago, I wrote “Blue Origin: Old Space in New Space Clothing.” In it, I observed that Blue Origin’s business focus is defined by its motto:

…Blue Origin hews to a different ethos, captured in its motto “Gradatim Ferociter” (step by step ferociously). First, let’s just acknowledge that this is the type of mission statement risk-averse organizations and managers love. That motto is pure, sweet Kool-Aid designed for direct-injection into the U.S. government’s mission assurance jugular. It assures the risk-averse of something they are already used to--trading time for mission accomplishment (hoping that the time will be spent to increase the mission’s chances).

The company’s seeming deliberateness is also an advertisement that government customers, such as NASA and the Department of Defense, seek out. Most of the time, these customers aren’t looking for a fast way to launch their spacecraft, merely one that won’t blow up. They have expensive satellites that took years to build, so it’s a good look (and a posterior covering) for them to choose a company that appears to equal their pacing–even if it has never launched a rocket.

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Amazon: First operational launch of Kuiper satellites delayed

Behind the Black by Robert Zimmerman 4/12/2024

Though Amazon’s CEO Andy Jassy, in his annual letter to shareholders yesterday, touted the Kuiper internet constellation’s profit potential, he also implied that the planned first launch of operational satellites has been delayed.

    Today, Jassy put a slightly different spin on that schedule. “We’re on track to launch our first production satellites in 2024,” he wrote in his letter. “We’ve still got a long way to go, but are encouraged by our progress.”

Later in a television interview Jassy was more blunt, stating that the first operational satellites will not be ready until “the second half of ’24”, with the service becoming available “in the next year or so.”

More: https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/amazon-first-operational-launch-of-kuiper-satellites-delayed/